Official '24' Season 5 Discussion Thread!

[Gamma Ray]

He also died in season 3. Shot in the neck, remember?

 

[SsM]

He also died in season 3. Shot in the neck, remember?

Jack????? really??? I dont remember :/ I thought that was tony

 

[Gamma Ray]

Yeah. Oh, you were talking about Jack? My bad.

 

[Gamma Ray]

Pick and watch the greatest 24 moments:

http://www.fox.com/24/24greatest/

 

[SsM]

man.. CHappelles death was heartbreaking for me

 

[Gamma Ray]

http://www.fox.com/24/24greatest/

Just moving that to this page so everyone sees it. I voted for Chapelle's death as the top 1. Season 1 and 2 have already been determined. Click the tabs above.

 

[JackBauer]

I still think this is the best season yet. yeah,

Spoiler

Tony's death

wasn't dealt in the best way, but this was easily the most consistently great season.

every other season had that mid-season slump, when they were trying to shift the story and the quality dropped notably, even in season 1, with Teri's amnesia. didn't happen this season. appart from a couple of episodes (8 and 9, if I remember correctly) and a few moments here and there, this season was nothing short of brilliant.

best season finale still goes to season 1, though. easily. that was the moment where we FINALLY saw just what the writers of 24 were capable of. no major character death had the same shock as Teri's did.

 

[JackBauer]

http://www.fox.com/24/24greatest/

Just moving that to this page so everyone sees it. I voted for Chapelle's death as the top 1. Season 1 and 2 have already been determined. Click the tabs above.

man, they should've included Nina kissing Jack in season 3 instead of him headbutting her...

season 2 had some good choices, and I agree with the first two, but my third would definitely be the end of the season premiere, with Jack shaving off his beard. it's like he's announing to the world "I'M BACK, B|TCHES!!"

agree with the first three season 1, but I'd have much prefered the third to be Palmer telling Sheri she's out and her screaming "YOU CAN'T DO THIS!"

 

[Matt]

He said it had happened several times, but the most with that character. He said that Henderson was supposed to die early on into this season, but they were having such fun with the character and Weller was playing it so well that they decided to keep him around. I'm glad they did, what a trip of a character, you never knew which way he was going to go.

As for Jack, lets not forget that he has been dead at least twice that I can recall already!

Henderson was great. I really wish they kept him around in prison, in a Hannibal Lecter-ish role. It would've been such a great dynamic...Because Jack absolutely loathes this man...yet imagine Jack having to go and ask him for help.

Plus I believe him when he said he didn't embezzle the money from CTU...so who did?

 

[Matt]

man.. CHappelles death was heartbreaking for me

"I'm sorry we failed you Ryan"

Even I shed a tear for that prick from Divison

 

[Matt]

I still think this is the best season yet. yeah,

Spoiler

Tony's death

wasn't dealt in the best way, but this was easily the most consistently great season.

every other season had that mid-season slump, when they were trying to shift the story and the quality dropped notably, even in season 1, with Teri's amnesia. didn't happen this season. appart from a couple of episodes (8 and 9, if I remember correctly) and a few moments here and there, this season was nothing short of brilliant.

best season finale still goes to season 1, though. easily. that was the moment where we FINALLY saw just what the writers of 24 were capable of. no major character death had the same shock as Teri's did.

I dunno, Edgar's I really didn't see coming. They set up the bait and switch, by establishing Henderson in the same room as Tony, I figured the episode would end with Tony killing him...but then, they just went and killed Edgar. Tragic ****

As for Tony's death...I think they made the right move in killing him. He had absolutely nothing left to live for...he would've just become a poor man's Jack Bauer.

 

[JackBauer]

Henderson was great. I really wish they kept him around in prison, in a Hannibal Lecter-ish role. It would've been such a great dynamic...Because Jack absolutely loathes this man...yet imagine Jack having to go and ask him for help.

Plus I believe him when he said he didn't embezzle the money from CTU...so who did?

wouldn't really work in 24. he'd just ask for a presidential pardon and they'd give him one. the hand those out like candy...

 

[JackBauer]

I dunno, Edgar's I really didn't see coming. They set up the bait and switch, by establishing Henderson in the same room as Tony, I figured the episode would end with Tony killing him...but then, they just went and killed Edgar. Tragic ****

yeah, didn't really expect Edgar dying. but it was nowhere near the shock of Teri's death. I suppose if there's anything in 24 history that could come close to that, it'd definitely be the first five minutes of this season. (yet another reason to consider this the best)

As for Tony's death...I think they made the right move in killing him. He had absolutely nothing left to live for...he would've just become a poor man's Jack Bauer.

I know, they didn't really have much more to do with him then. it was they way they did it though. it's like he was just any other guy and they killed him to make Henderson look more of a badass, when we already knew that. the guy let his wife get shot for chrissakes!! I mean, Tony didn't even get a silent clock.

he's Tony f***in Almeida dammit!! give him some respect!!

 

[ord0g]

I mean, Tony didn't even get a silent clock.

he's Tony f***in Almeida dammit!! give him some respect!!

Yeah, Tony's death definitely deserved the silent clock. They owed it to the character, but alas it wasn't to be.

 

[Master Chief]

They should've taken up my montage idea. But that wouldn't be a great ending to the day.

 

[SsM]

At the end of it though.. when the clock finished ticking to 7 a.m. it wouldve been awesome if it was dedicated in loving memory to:

David Palmer
Tony Almeida
Michelle Dessler

Even though they were fictional characters. They were real to the people that loved them

 

[Shifty]

24' Panel Explores TV's War on Terror
By Kate O'Hare, Zap2it May 24 2006

On Sunday, May 21, Hollywood fans of FOX's thriller "24" packed the historic Wadsworth Theatre, on the grounds of the Veteran's Administration campus in West Los Angeles, for an event limited to selected press and members of the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences and the Screen Actors Guild.

The evening began with an enthusiastically received screening of hour 23 -- which aired on FOX the following night, along with the concluding 24th hour of the show's fifth season -- followed by a panel discussion on the topic: "'24' and the War on Terror: Can Truth Learn From Fiction?"

Moderated by Mat Miller, host of the KCRW radio show "Left, Right and Center," the panel featured "24" stars Kiefer Sutherland, who plays steely Agent Jack Bauer of the Los Angeles-based Counter Terrorist Unit (CTU); Gregory Itzin, who plays the treasonous President Logan; and Jean Smart, who plays the ultimately heroic first lady Martha Logan.

Also representing the show were executive producers Joel Surnow, Howard Gordon and Evan Katz.

On the real-world side were foreign-policy expert Morton Halperin; Brian Jenkins, former Green Beret and a terrorism expert for the RAND Corporation think tank; former war-crimes prosecutor and Syracuse University law professor David Crane; and Los Angeles City Council member Jack Weiss (D), who works on terrorist-threat planning.

After confessing his addiction to "24" and commenting on its appeal to people on both sides of the political spectrum, Miller questioned the panel about the show's politics.

"I think the only politics on the show is that terrorism is bad," said Surnow, who added, "We're not trying to push one agenda or another."

"Our only politics," Gordon said, "is the politics of a good story. The best story wins, basically."

Weiss went on to point out that Los Angeles has no real-world equivalent of the nimble and nearly omnipotent CTU. He commented on a plotline in the finale in which terrorists hijacked a nuclear submarine docked at the port of Los Angeles.

"If there was an incident at the port," Weiss said, "it could be a good 45 minutes on a lazy Sunday afternoon before LAPD S.W.A.T. could get there. It could be a lot longer before the FBI S.W.A.T. team got there."

Miller asked the actors how their personal politics had been affected, and Sutherland -- born in London and raised mainly in Canada -- said, "My politics are mine. I believe in due process. I believe in civil rights, both of which Jack Bauer runs rampant over."

Sutherland related a story of sitting next to a woman on a plane, who was struck with fear at the sight of him. "I leaned over and said, 'It's a TV show.'"

When a questioner from the audience was concerned about terrorists getting ideas from "24," Jenkins replied, "We talk about the vulnerabilities -- suppose terrorists did this, suppose terrorists did that. The terrorists ... they watch what we watch, they read what we read. And they start talking about the same thing, 'Can we really do that?'

"We spend a lot of time listening to what they're talking about, and we pick up the chatter, saying, 'Oh, my God, they're actually talking about that. Our worst fears are confirmed.' What we have there is really a loop."

Jenkins then pointed out that he hadn't seen anything in a show that terrorists hadn't likely already thought of, and hadn't done because they either couldn't, or decided not to for reasons of their own.

In answer to an audience question about the actors and their characters, Smart pointed out that her teenage son had noticed Bauer becoming "harder" each season as he experiences and doles out violence and torture.

Regarding the torture, Sutherland said, "This is a dramatic device, and it is not to be confused with how we handle things in the real world."

And, as Gordon pointed out, "As emotional and dramatic as these scenes are for Jack Bauer, he derives no sadistic pleasure from torturing. If anything, it takes a piece of him every time he does this. Jack is paying a terrible price."

At the end, a questioner suggested that Mrs. Logan deserved a medal for her actions in the finale, in which she, fully aware of her husband's treachery, seduced him in order to delay him and further Bauer's plans.

At this, Smart gave a royal wave to the audience and said, "Taking one for the team. Taking one for the team."

 

[Truthteller]

24' Panel Explores TV's War on Terror
By Kate O'Hare, Zap2it May 24 2006..."Sutherland related a story of sitting next to a woman on a plane, who was struck with fear at the sight of him. "I leaned over and said, 'It's a TV show.'" "

HA! Its hard to blame her since given what happens in the show, You really do not want to be anywhere near Jack Bauer!

Interesting read. Thanks for that. Do you have the link to the artical?

 

[Truthteller]

Oh! By-the-way slinger, your avatar is truely painful. Poor Jack. That one eye in particular looks like it was popped!

 

[Matt]

"My politics are mine. I believe in due process. I believe in civil rights, both of which Jack Bauer runs rampant over."

For some reason that absolutely cracked me up.

 

[Carter]

Jack Bauer >Keifer Sutherland

Btw, my Jack Pack came in the mail today
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...646-3789747?_encoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=1036592

 

[Master Chief]

Haha, I like how most of the people who bought that also bought the glasses.

F**k it, I'm buying 'em too.

 

[Shifty]

I do need a new backpack...

http://www.zap2it.com/tv/news/zap-24exploresterror,0,5806469.story?coll=zap-tv-headlines

 

[rdh007]

For some reason that absolutely cracked me up.

Interesting that they mentioned that he was born in London and grew up in Canada right after that quote.

"Taking one for the team" Ha! I love it.

 

[JackBauer]

HA! Its hard to blame her since given what happens in the show, You really do not want to be anywhere near Jack Bauer!

they forgot to mention that after he said that, Jack grabbed the ol' hag, opened the door of the plane, hung her outside of it by her feet and proceded to scream: " DO YOU UNDERSTAND?!?! IT'S A TV SHOW!! "