Comics Official ASTONISHING X-MEN Discussion Thread

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Yeah. Major props for that one. It was mad funny. :woot:

Also I forgot to mention that at the bottom of that last panel it looks like Storm is questioning Cyclops again. My reasoning is her constant reminding to Cyclops that "it wasnt like the old days" in the last book.:wow:
 
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Wow. Bianchi's depiction of Storm's face actually borderlines on looking human in that one panel.

And then it's going to be colored in. :csad:
 
HA HA HA. Very funny. But seriously now Im starting to warm up to her costume but Im still not quite understanding that spider/insect shaped tiara. The old one was perfect;simple but strangely exotic.
 
or 'woman' as a way to let Storm know that she'll never call her 'goddess'



...yes, no?



oh well

At least, 'woman' is a far true-to-character and realistic term than that shallow one 'goddess'.

I hate Storm, but I give Ellis mad props for wanting to use her on a team in conjunction with Cyclops, and bring her back into the X-world.

That said, I hate Storm. Considering Bianchi has done work with other characters, I'm assuming we're going to see some kind of revolving roster - there's Angel, Nightcrawler, Colossus, and Dazzler that Bianchi has published sketches of. I'm assuming he's not going to break up the veterans in Cyke, Emma, Wolverine, Beast, and Armor, at least not for long. So, either Storm will be leaving at some point, or else the team is going to be really big.

Uncanny team is supposed to be big from what I've heard, I doubt that Astonishing will do it the same way as well, but I definitely like your the other prediction.
 
I hate Storm, but I give Ellis mad props for wanting to use her on a team in conjunction with Cyclops, and bring her back into the X-world.

That said, I hate Storm. Considering Bianchi has done work with other characters, I'm assuming we're going to see some kind of revolving roster - there's Angel, Nightcrawler, Colossus, and Dazzler that Bianchi has published sketches of. I'm assuming he's not going to break up the veterans in Cyke, Emma, Wolverine, Beast, and Armor, at least not for long. So, either Storm will be leaving at some point, or else the team is going to be really big.

Bianchi was asked to redesign the costumes. Apparently the characters will appear in Uncanny X-Men instead.
 
Also I forgot to mention that at the bottom of that last panel it looks like Storm is questioning Cyclops again. My reasoning is her constant reminding to Cyclops that "it wasnt like the old days" in the last book.:wow:

I realllllly hope they don’t continue with that.:csad:
 
Bianchi was asked to redesign the costumes. Apparently the characters will appear in Uncanny X-Men instead.
Oh, yeah. Bleh, even so, my way's a good way.

And Storm should keep in mind that she's only a guest with visitation rights.
 
I realllllly hope they don’t continue with that.:csad:


Why not? I think its a healthy wake up call for him as someone such as him who is always in control. I mean with all of her leadership experience, I think it could make the team alot better If they pooled their ideas. Or maybe share leadership. I think he should know never too completely dismiss Ororo after all the leadership issues they've had in the past.
 
Oh, yeah. Bleh, even so, my way's a good way.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Your way or the highway, right. Well you just cling to that caveman notion. Why'll we move on and accept things the way they happen.

And Storm should keep in mind that she's only a guest with visitation rights.

With all the crap and drama Storm has put up with with all of the xmen, she's never just a guest. Shes a veteran, for Christ sakes and has been with them through thick and thin. Storm has been a member of the xmen for longer than any other member. Thats a fact, if you dont believe me, look it up. And Scott and Emma need to realize that and show some respect bc everyone else seems to.
 
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Your way or the highway, right. Well you just cling to that caveman notion. Why'll we move on and accept things the way they happen.
Uh, wow. Right, because I'm the only person who thought a revolving roster on the book would be good and swell fun. Right. Riiiiiiight. Because UraniaChang certainly did not post any agreement a few posts above this one. Oh no, certainly not.

And good golly, if you're going to speak the language, learn the language! "Why'll" would be "why all," I fathom, which I can't find a place for in any sentence known to English whatsoever, outside of trying to make one sound like a hick. You were looking for "while." If you're going to try and insult, or at least sound witty, then start with the basics.

Also, nothing I wrote had anything to do with "accepting things the way they happen." But keep grasping. You'll get a hold of something or other eventually.


With all the crap and drama Storm has put up with with all of the xmen, she's never just a guest. Shes a veteran, for Christ sakes and has been with them through thick and thin. Storm has been a member of the xmen for longer than any other member. Thats a fact, if you dont believe me, look it up. And Scott and Emma need to realize that and show some respect bc everyone else seems to.
Storm has moved. Her history is with the X-Men, yes, but she went to Wakanda and married BP and for quite some time, no X-Men writer really used her - except for Brubaker in Uncanny, where she was, gasp, a GUEST STAR for a single arc. Carey wasn't using her in the Messiah Complex prologue, "Blinded by the Light." I'm pretty sure she didn't even have an appearance in Messiah Complex which, being that it was a X-crossover, is probably (and by probably, I mean certainly, definitely, or whatever synonym one might prefer) evidence. It's very possible that this is Storm's full return into the X-franchise - but it's only in Astonishing, and for how long, I don't think any of us know (unless Ellis has said something in an interview, in which case we do know). If Storm shows up in Uncanny on a permanent basis, which is once again and rightfully so the flagship title, then we can all start pulling out our "STORM IS OF THE X-MEN" t-shirts and flags and marching around. Until then, she's a guest star, whose place is alongside Black Panther over in good ol' Wakanda.

History doesn't matter so much as recent developments, which always take precedence over history anyway.
 
I'm pretty sure she didn't even have an appearance in Messiah Complex which, being that it was a X-crossover, is probably (and by probably, I mean certainly, definitely, or whatever synonym one might prefer) evidence.

WTF?

I don't get it. Is this sarcasm or some twisted joke I just don't get...?
 
If it's me, it's usually a very safe bet to call it sarcasm. I mean, c'mon. Shouldn't you know that? :cwink:

But what are you not understanding? Speak plainly, and I shall explain!
 
Was she in MC?

Oh, whoops. She was in "Blinded by the Light," too. The Bachalo poses I've tried so hard to forget just came flooding back into my head. Oh well.

But, really. Was she in MC? I don't remember. I really don't.

Or, wait, the Bachalo poses were MC, and not "Blinded by the Light." Is that it? Man, I'm all screwed up. What're you doing to me, buddy? WHY.
 
She wasn't in Blinded By The Light. But she was in MC.

She sort of led the strike team that tracked down the Marauders during the first half. And that's about it. Don't recall her having a single line after chapter six.
 
Right, right. The horrid Bachalo poses. "Look at me! I can strike a pose in battle and I have a staff! Rawr!"

So, right. My mistake. She guest-starred in the big X-Men crossover. Silly me. How could I forget?
 
Right, right. The horrid Bachalo poses. "Look at me! I can strike a pose in battle and I have a staff! Rawr!"

So, right. My mistake. She guest-starred in the big X-Men crossover. Silly me. How could I forget?

Only about a zillion characters were involved. What's one guest star in the big picture?
 
Cause it sounded like I was defending/praising/pimping her guest appearance...?

DarthCyclopsRLZ said:
She sort of led the strike team that tracked down the Marauders during the first half. And that's about it. Don't recall her having a single line after chapter six.
 
Uh, wow. Right, because I'm the only person who thought a revolving roster on the book would be good and swell fun. Right. Riiiiiiight. Because UraniaChang certainly did not post any agreement a few posts above this one. Oh no, certainly not.

I have no problem with what you think, But when you start making smug @$$ comments about how your way is the good way, then your just out of line.

And good golly, if you're going to speak the language, learn the language! "Why'll" would be "why all," I fathom, which I can't find a place for in any sentence known to English whatsoever, outside of trying to make one sound like a hick. You were looking for "while." If you're going to try and insult, or at least sound witty, then start with the basics.

Wow. To think that your argument is so bad that you have to resort to correcting my grammar. Woooooow, I pity you, really. You can look through all the rest of my posts and see no mistake, so now, you better be on your toes. :o

Also, nothing I wrote had anything to do with "accepting things the way they happen." But keep grasping. You'll get a hold of something or other eventually.



Storm has moved. Her history is with the X-Men, yes, but she went to Wakanda and married BP and for quite some time, no X-Men writer really used her - except for Brubaker in Uncanny, where she was, gasp, a GUEST STAR for a single arc. Carey wasn't using her in the Messiah Complex prologue, "Blinded by the Light." I'm pretty sure she didn't even have an appearance in Messiah Complex which, being that it was a X-crossover, is probably (and by probably, I mean certainly, definitely, or whatever synonym one might prefer) evidence. It's very possible that this is Storm's full return into the X-franchise - but it's only in Astonishing, and for how long, I don't think any of us know (unless Ellis has said something in an interview, in which case we do know). If Storm shows up in Uncanny on a permanent basis, which is once again and rightfully so the flagship title, then we can all start pulling out our "STORM IS OF THE X-MEN" t-shirts and flags and marching around. Until then, she's a guest star, whose place is alongside Black Panther over in good ol' Wakanda.

History doesn't matter so much as recent developments, which always take precedence over history anyway.

Actually, as you realized in the above posts, you were wrong. If you want to insult somebody at least get your facts right.She was on the cover for Goodness sakes. She held all the marauders off while the rest of the X men escaped in Xmen 205. (gasp) You wanna correct me on my grammar while you are wrong on a whole crossover. Wow, what are you smoking bc it obviously cant be good for your mental health. Oh and a persons reputation stays with them their whole life. Wherever they go. Hmm.. Jean isnt present right now, I wonder if she would be a guest if she came back. Puh-leazz.:whatever:
 
To be fair, though, El Bastardo was kinda right in the sense that any x-man but Cyke, Cable and Wolvie could've sat MC out and it wouldn't have made much of a diff in the end.

'Ro wasn't exactly back to being a 'regular' prior to Ellis' AXM.
 
To be fair, though, El Bastardo was kinda right in the sense that any x-man but Cyke, Cable and Wolvie could've sat MC out and it wouldn't have made much of a diff in the end.

'Ro wasn't exactly back to being a 'regular' prior to Ellis' AXM.

I understand she wasnt a 'regular' but she is definately not just some guest in the book. She's a veteran Xman. They are never guests in X-men books?! Like I said, would Jean ever be a guest in Xmen? No.
 
I understand she wasnt a 'regular' but she is definately not just some guest in the book. She's a veteran Xman. They are never guests in X-men books?! Like I said, would Jean ever be a guest in Xmen? No.

But she was referred to as guest-starring in The Extremists sollicits. :cwink:
 
Cause it sounded like I was defending/praising/pimping her guest appearance...?
Was that to me? I didn't question your pointing out that she was in there. I was only clarifying myself, mostly for myself.

Ororo101: Doesn't everyone generally believe that their way is the good way, anyway? Is not your way the good way? Are you out of line yourself, then? Or do you think your way/s is/are the bad way? And if so, why should any of us bother reading what you write, if everything you put forth is bad? We don't like bad things around here. We like good things. We like the good way. We walk the good path. Please take your badness away, if you are indeed all about the bad way. And if you are not about the bad way, and are indeed all about the good way, then don't yell at other people for also being of the good way. I like my way. My way is a good way. Darth's way is a good way. We walk the good path, much as Cyclops and Wolverine walk the good path (together, hand in hand). Please do not taint us with a bad way.

And no, you have many, many grammar problems in your other posts. :cwink:

And yes, I already accepted and hugged the fact that I was wrong. It happens. Being that I've already treaded that path myself, you pointing it out and trying to cling to it really does nothing. Yes, yes, she held off the Marauders? So what? She was in all of a handful of chapters, which is to say, YES, she was a guest-star for a few issues.

And no, Jean would not be a guest-star, because it's not about being absent from the X-books. It's about the franchise. Jean has never left the X-franchise. Jean is dead, yes, but is still one of the X-Men, just as when Psylocke was dead, or when Colossus was dead, they were still considered X-Men. Wolverine is still considered an X-Men, because he's still prominant in X-books despite being in several other non-X titles (sadly). If he stopped showing up in ANY X-book and cut ties with the X-teams, and only showed up to bounce and claw around from time to time (let us not entertain the fact this would never happen), then he would be, despite being Wolverine, a guest-star in the X-books, just like Storm now is. If Beast went to star in a new ongoing about SWORD, and as a result he was no longer in the X-books on a constant basis, and was no longer an acting member of the X-teams, then Beast, despite being one of the O5, would be a guest-star in the X-books and the X-franchise. That's what it means? Is that spelled out enough?

Storm left the X-teams on an official basis to go hump Black Panther and be Queen of Wakanda and help Africa and whatever else. That makes her a guest-star until which time she rejoins the X-teams on a constant basis. If that's a result of Ellis's reign on Astonishing, then that's a result, and it happens, although I'd still say she has to show up in Uncanny (where we'll still be seeing Cyke, Emma, Wolverine, et al. on a regular basis), the flagship.

Ororo101, you know it was ALL a joke. I thought you LIKED joking? You're a regular jokester yourself!
 
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