Official Batman Titles thread 2.0 - Part 1

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Batman Confidential isn't cannon, sorry to be the one to burst your bubble. Neither is Year Two or anything Dark Knight Returns related.

On a similar topic, does anyone have any info on Dark Knight: Boy Wonder? It's allegedly the six issue arc finishing up All Star Batman & Robin. Please spare me the criticism of the title and of Frank Miller, I've heard it all before. I just want to know if it's coming out any time soon. The last I heard was February 2011 and well...it's March.

bahaha... ok.. and here's Mr Obvious...

Alright..... first obviously The Dark Knight material isn't cannon... Year Two isn't necesarily NOT CANNON... though currently it's not quite clear where it rests

As for Batman Confidential, I certainly consider the stories cannon, just past stories written more recently...

Anyone know where to get a proper timeline and/or Chrono list for the tpb's?
 
Batman Inc #3 is looking outrageous!
 
bahaha... ok.. and here's Mr Obvious...

Alright..... first obviously The Dark Knight material isn't cannon... Year Two isn't necesarily NOT CANNON... though currently it's not quite clear where it rests
Year Two has been removed from Batman canon by Zero Hour. This was confirmed by DC editorial YEARS ago.

As for Batman Confidential, I certainly consider the stories cannon, just past stories written more recently...
Yeah, I think that's the point of Confidential. I think they are meant to be a part of Batman canon.
 
Batman Inc #3 is looking outrageous!

Yep I cannot wait for the new arc

Batwoman is going to be guest starring in it and Scorpiana and El Gaucho will be back it is going to be :awesome:
 
Lovers and Madmen certainly isn't cannon. It's possible that the other story lines might be, but I think there are too many conflicting elements in the series that go against Year One and the early issues of LOTDK.
 
I dug the story about the first time Batman caught the Joker and Gothams cops first experience dealing with a supervillain thought that was neat :up:
 
D'awwwww thank you Womp

It has been a happy year on the hype and you are :awesome: sauce
 
DAT DIALOGUE, DAT ART.

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DAT BULLET FETISH

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What is all this I don't even

I now want a low budget film version of Batman Odyssey to be made
 
You guys are making this seem crazier than Morrison's run.
 
You guys are making this seem crazier than Morrison's run.

That's because it is, and not in any positive way whatsoever. And not only that, the freakin' examples prove that Morrison has things Neal Adams does not: comprehension of the English language and writing skills. Oh, and a sense of humor that's actually, you know, funny.
 
Neal Adams does not: comprehension of the English language and writing skills.

While the dialogue could have used Miller's help, it's always good that an artist is trying so he/she can learn to improve him/herself considering Adams might do an Wolverine comic next. The story itself seems intriquing, while it uses the usual "villain from the past" trope, it manages to keep it a good mystery while also showing how Sensei-chan rooted his plan while also showing how Batman seems to be few steps ahead of everyone, not to mention it's nice to see good examples of Batman utilizing modern technology and being a good detective.

Oh, and a sense of humor that's actually, you know, funny.

That is purely an individual opinion. I mean how many people laugh at the Joker jokes that Morrison wrote? Or how many even understood them? I liked the Sheikh joke, but thats about it i think. :p
 
I just want to read Odyssey more after reading all of that.
 
While the dialogue could have used Miller's help, it's always good that an artist is trying so he/she can learn to improve him/herself considering Adams might do an Wolverine comic next. The story itself seems intriquing, while it uses the usual "villain from the past" trope, it manages to keep it a good mystery while also showing how Sensei-chan rooted his plan while also showing how Batman seems to be few steps ahead of everyone, not to mention it's nice to see good examples of Batman utilizing modern technology and being a good detective.
Disagreed. There's a reason writers have EDITORS, to make sure that everything flows smoothly. Flow smoothly is some Odyssey does not do. The writing is HORRIBLE. Adams' use of narrative devices contradicts itself, as that website demonstrates.

Listen, I think Morrison's Batman stuff is a story that sounds cool in retrospect. Tell someone everything that happens in Morrison's run and it sounds ****ing brilliant. It's apparent to me that you're applying this same kind of thinking to Odyssey. The writing is terrible, by your own admittance. If your book has crappy writing, it has crappy writing, due to 2 things, be it individual or combined: You can't write and/or your editor sucks.

Nothing I've seen indicates that Batman is a good detective. Otherwise he wouldn't be blown away that there's a whale in the ocean. Because, you know, whales don't live in the ocean. Everything comes as a shock to him in this series. Perhaps when you think about the series, it sounds cool. The actual execution is crap.

Now, if this is all some sort of intentional narrative ploy and it turns out Adams can dish out dialogue as poetic and beautiful as Alan Moore, then ****, i'll admit that I was wrong and I'll continue with the series. But until then, Neal Adams is not getting my money ever again. Or at least he pulls his head out of his ass and gets himself a writer to work with.

That is purely an individual opinion. I mean how many people laugh at the Joker jokes that Morrison wrote? Or how many even understood them? I liked the Sheikh joke, but thats about it i think. :p

Alfred making sex-hands is not funny. Batman doing an impression of a seal is not funny. Adams' jokes are juvenile. If that makes you laugh, then so be it. At least Morrison's Joker jokes were witty, creative and amusing because of the darkness behind it. You know...good writing.
 
Adams' use of narrative devices contradicts itself, as that website demonstrates.
Can you point out where? I can't be bothered to reading their complaiments when it's just them making fun of things all the time, it just bored me.
Listen, I think Morrison's Batman stuff is a story that sounds cool in retrospect. Tell someone everything that happens in Morrison's run and it sounds ****ing brilliant.

Sadly i don't think so. People are too uptight thesedays about their views of a character and some might go as ignorant enough to say Morrison sucks simply because they might not like ideas such as Dick being Batman, Bruce being in a trap that consists of time traveling and Batman having a son.
It's apparent to me that you're applying this same kind of thinking to Odyssey. The writing is terrible, by your own admittance. If your book has crappy writing, it has crappy writing, due to 2 things, be it individual or combined: You can't write and/or your editor sucks.

People can go past bad art, why not the same for dialogue that isn't considered the best? Avengers is the top selling title out there and people constantly seem to complain about the "Bendis Dialogue". I can understand some might find it so atrocitious that they can never pick up another issue, but thats not the case for me.
Nothing I've seen indicates that Batman is a good detective.

He knew the Riddler was fake due to his behaviour and riddles, he knew all the passangers in the train due to doing his research and memorizing these things, he knew Ras' al Ghul was behind some parts of the scheme such as Ubu the Man-Bat. I also liked how Batman realized in #6 that the Arkham Asylum Talia was a fake due to her voice not being 100% the same as the real Talia's, then theres alot of cool technology that Batman uses, but sadly nowhere near the sci-fi madness it could be.

Otherwise he wouldn't be blown away that there's a whale in the ocean. Because, you know, whales don't live in the ocean.

The area the whale is is surprisingly close to Gotham, are there suppose to be whales near that area? I mean the whale is there because of Aquaman.

At least Morrison's Joker jokes were witty, creative and amusing because of the darkness behind it. You know...good writing.

Is it really good writer that Joker putted the general into an alligator's mouth due to the "genital's in alligator's mouth" pun? Or the Sheikh dying due to poisoned peanuts because Joker gave him a shake in the pants you could say. I mean i admit these are obscure jokes, but are they truly that funny? I forgot to mention but i did find it very funny when Joker murders the fake Batman infront of disabled children and callsout for Santa Claus. I will agree that they are very creative jokes that most people probably don't even get, but that doesn't make them instantly funny, as you know, whats funny in a joke if it needs explaining? :p
 
Bendis dialogue isn't bad, though. His dialogue is quite sharp--it's just a style some people don't respond to (much like Whedon dialogue). Crazy people, I say, but that's me (not to suggest Bendis is flawless; he does tend to stray too easily into humour sometimes).

Neal Adams' dialogue is actually bad. As in, it is written poorly, such that it's awkward to read and makes everyone in the book seems like a babbling moron. Also, ellipses... ellipses... everywhere... so... many... ellipses... can't... you... I... incoherent... THEIR TRAPEZE ACT!
 
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