First Avenger OFFICIAL: Chris Evans is Captain America

[captaintass]

exactly...for the comics....we dont know what they are gonna do for the movie

That's true. The reason I mentioned it is because other posters where wondering why, in the movies, Stark poo-pooed the idea (no vita-rays) and why there weren't a whole army of super soldiers.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Or maybe they'll do it a little different (and more sci-fi), and say it makes everything stronger - the bones, tissue, blood vessels, muscles...all the way down to the cellular level. And then it would still be up to Steve to get into shape with it. Or not. But that would be different enough from steroids, no?

I don't want skin that can deflect bullets as flesh wounds like a Terminator without the metal or something. There have to be some limitations. Even if they pumped way more than they did with Blonsky in TIH, he shouldn't be able to take on the Hulk hands on armed only with the shield. He just needs to be enhanced like a super athlete, LeBron James type. But multiple bullets to the chest and I don't want to see the second coming of Wolverine. Maybe quick recovery time, and olympian type abilities. Well I guess that is basically roids, but it works the best.

 

[roach]

That's true. The reason I mentioned it is because other posters where wondering why, in the movies, Stark poo-pooed the idea (no vita-rays) and why there weren't a whole army of super soldiers.

pop in your copy of TIH and pause it on the canister of the SSS...the canister mentions Vita-rays....

 

[flickchick85]

I don't want skin that can deflect bullets as flesh wounds like a Terminator without the metal or something. There have to be some limitations. Even if they pumped way more than they did with Blonsky in TIH, he shouldn't be able to take on the Hulk hands on armed only with the shield. He just needs to be enhanced like a super athlete, LeBron James type. But multiple bullets to the chest and I don't want to see the second coming of Wolverine. Maybe quick recovery time, and olympian type abilities. Well I guess that is basically roids, but it works the best.

Oh haha, no I didn't mean something as radical as that (though now that I read I what I wrote, it sure sounded like it). But no, no, no deflecting bullets. I just meant, his body can take more. He can take a bullet better (that is, it's less likely to kill him, but it still very well could), jump from higher heights, etc. And the point of it would be to explain that his heart, bones, and joints could support his jacked up adrenaline and strength/super feats, his muscles could flex more without tearing, etc.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I'd like cap to be as if, you took the greatest attribute from the worlds greatest olympians and athletes, and put them all together, cap should be able to perform at that level without using any adrenaline.
As far as damage, I think cap could probably take at least two bullets to the chest and still be able to fight at a high level. His recovery time should be pretty fast, not like wolverine, but like blonsky from TIH, the way he healed all of shattered bones in just a few days, maybe a week.

 

[Agent 194]

is'nt there a torch just called Toro

Yes there is. He is the Golden Age Human Torch's sidekick; his Bucky, his Robin. And his origin is my favorite of all the origin stories. He used to pull potatoes out of the fire for his friends at camp. And because of that he could catch himself on fire like the Torch. Now there's an origin story. And ridiculous even by Golden Age standards. It's so absurdly stupid that I use it all the time in the kitchen when my wife asks me to pick up a hot piece bread, meat...whatever it is, that's too hot to handle.

 

[FVD]

I'd like cap to be as if, you took the greatest attribute from the worlds greatest olympians and athletes, and put them all together, cap should be able to perform at that level without using any adrenaline.
As far as damage, I think cap could probably take at least two bullets to the chest and still be able to fight at a high level. His recovery time should be pretty fast, not like wolverine, but like blonsky from TIH, the way he healed all of shattered bones in just a few days, maybe a week.

It's a pity that recovery time didn't heal his fatal wounds during the events of Captain America #25. Ah well they were fatal wounds after all.

 

[zenith16]

Actually he hasn't. He has slimmed down for various indie roles he's played.

it's true if you haven't looked at him in the losers trailers he's slimed down since fantastic four. so I really thing you should look at those trilers. doen't mean he's not bulking up now. but man compair to the other around him in that film he's really small body wise. for now.

oh and I just ran into this to night.

EDITORIAL: Why Chris Evans as Cap Is a Bad Idea I know it's a little too late for this, and I know there's nothing I can really do about it, but hear me out on this one.

the only thing i'm gonna say with this is what if fox's new Reboot of FF is even worse then what evens was in, most people that liked it will want his FF to be the best FF that'll ever happen then. Even with that terriable Dr. doom. and then what will happen we'll still be stuck with the Same universe of two different characters with the same face problem cause of the same actors face. so I guess only answer to this is to recast after the first movie or since this is a period movie not have evens as the final cap. he can play all through out his 20's and when he reachs 30 get's stuck in the ice berg and brought to tonys time line they have some one older as cap and a different actor. closer to RDJ's age and that'll solve the problem. Cause other wise I really don't like the Idea of different characters of the same universe having the same face. what's next you want Westley snips playing Luke cage and bishop while he brings back blade if that happens I've had it with marvel movies it'll be too stupid.

marvel head studios: Hey we're gonna do a secret wars type movie. assistant: but you have a number of actors playing more then one role for each of our marvel movies main characters. marvel head studios:what? assistant:yeah We have each actor playing five different main characters in five different marvel movies, it'll hard to bring them together for a secret wars or onslaught, or world war hulk event as you want sir , cause we weren't smart enough to not use one actor playing one percharacter role in stead of more then five characters in our big movie universe move where all these guys live in the same place/ planet. unlike a place where cat woman is from where that won't happen cause she's not owned by marvel studios. Our stupid mistake really sir.

Marvel Studio head: we'll be Rebooting for ever. SOBs marvel studio head.

 

[ImWithTeamConan]

I'd like cap to be as if, you took the greatest attribute from the worlds greatest olympians and athletes, and put them all together, cap should be able to perform at that level without using any adrenaline.
As far as damage, I think cap could probably take at least two bullets to the chest and still be able to fight at a high level. His recovery time should be pretty fast, not like wolverine, but like blonsky from TIH, the way he healed all of shattered bones in just a few days, maybe a week.

My thoughts exactly. Dude's the pinnacle of human strength, agility, and athleticism. Shouldn't be dodging bullets but he should be incredibly fast and nimble. I remember Blonsky's running in TIH. Imagine Evans in uniform doing that across enemy lines hurling his shield and knocking down Nazis.

 

[Crook]

the only thing i'm gonna say with this is what if fox's new Reboot of FF is even worse then what evens was in, most people that liked it will want his FF to be the best FF that'll ever happen then. Even with that terriable Dr. doom. and then what will happen we'll still be stuck with the Same universe of two different characters with the same face problem cause of the same actors face. so I guess only answer to this is to recast after the first movie or since this is a period movie not have evens as the final cap. he can play all through out his 20's and when he reachs 30 get's stuck in the ice berg and brought to tonys time line they have some one older as cap and a different actor. closer to RDJ's age and that'll solve the problem.

That's a mighty convoluted alternate-reality you've created there. You should have just said "I don't like Evans", and you would've had a more valid position.

People are so hung up on this Marvel film universe, when for the most part it has amounted to absolutely nothing so far. Furthermore, just because they're under the same company, does not really mean they all concurrently exist within the same time line/universe. It shouldn't even matter, considering F4 and any Avengers member were never going to cross paths anyway.

 

[Webhead2006]

i totally agree cap should have a more athletic shape body. which evans pretty much has. all he needs to do is add some mass like 10-15pounds of muscle and tone/cut his body up. There is no need for cap to be a huge muscle bound body builder type. And like someone pointed out only times we will probably see evans's body shown off will probably be when the SSS changes his body, in the USO suit. And if the battlefield suit does end up being something of a cross between the ultimates ww 2 suit. we wont be able to see all his muscles and all that there.

also interesting news that the ana faris rom com is changing production time frame and studios. This is good news there. Since it doesnt give evans a conflict now. Cant wait to see how evans will look come time filming kick starts.

 

[jab1118]

oh and I just ran into this to night.
the only thing i'm gonna say with this is what if fox's new Reboot of FF is even worse then what evens was in, most people that liked it will want his FF to be the best FF that'll ever happen then. Even with that terriable Dr. doom. and then what will happen we'll still be stuck with the Same universe of two different characters with the same face problem cause of the same actors face. so I guess only answer to this is to recast after the first movie or since this is a period movie not have evens as the final cap. he can play all through out his 20's and when he reachs 30 get's stuck in the ice berg and brought to tonys time line they have some one older as cap and a different actor. closer to RDJ's age and that'll solve the problem. Cause other wise I really don't like the Idea of different characters of the same universe having the same face. what's next you want Westley snips playing Luke cage and bishop while he brings back blade if that happens I've had it with marvel movies it'll be too stupid.

Marvel Studio head: we'll be Rebooting for ever. SOBs marvel studio head.

first that editorial was moronic when two of your major problems are you will run into the same face while playing the maverl movieverse card game and what will people do on YouTube when they are trying to cut their own civil war trailers then you lose credibility with me cause their could not be stupider reasons to dislike a casting

second you have a problem with an actor playing two heroes at the same time even though one franchise is over and they never could have interacted anyway, and your solution is to change actors after the first movie

so let me get this straight
1 face 2 characters=bad
2 faces 1 caharacter within one year= good?

 

[LadyVader]

i totally agree cap should have a more athletic shape body. which evans pretty much has. all he needs to do is add some mass like 10-15pounds of muscle and tone/cut his body up. There is no need for cap to be a huge muscle bound body builder type. And like someone pointed out only times we will probably see evans's body shown off will probably be when the SSS changes his body, in the USO suit. And if the battlefield suit does end up being something of a cross between the ultimates ww 2 suit. we wont be able to see all his muscles and all that there.

also interesting news that the ana faris rom com is changing production time frame and studios. This is good news there. Since it doesnt give evans a conflict now. Cant wait to see how evans will look come time filming kick starts.

It's gonna be a busy spring for Chris Evans. He has to film a movie (a romantic comedy, but still), do time in the gym and I imagine he'll also have to do some kind of boot camp for weapon and physical combat training. Unless he already did some of that stuff for The Losers, in which case he won't have to start from scratch.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

..... because he's talking about the military in real life. This is not real life. This is a fantasy set period piece. If this were a thread about a documentary or re-enactment, I'd fully acquiesce to what it is he's saying.

It's not complete fantasy though, they've been trying to firmly establish this universe in a real world context. Because there are so many fantastical elements, unless you ground it in realism of character and historical context, people just won't connect to it, especially since it takes place in a point in history that has significance to everyone all over the world. Cap is already likely going to be doing some amazing things, flipping over enemies, throwing the shield, hijacking vehicles etc, that the more normal he looks as a human, the easier it will be to relate to him. Also, when you consider the dynamic in the Avengers, Cap has never been a heavy hitter role. Thats usually left for Thor and Hulk. Having 3 huge, muscly brawny characters isn't particularly that interesting... I think the comparisons between Cap and Olympians is quite good. I think a Spartan type physique is a good example too....

Rock, I don't think anyone is suggesting he doesn't look buff, more that there shouldn't really be an emphasis or a priority on it. I really don't think theres any risk of people not considering him to be a Superhero because he isn't bursting out of his costume. It's freakin Captain America! He's going to be bustin' Nazi skulls on the front line, with a shield, in a red, white and blue costume. If that isn't heroic enough for a general audience then thats pretty sad.

 

[zenith16]

That's a mighty convoluted alternate-reality you've created there. You should have just said "I don't like Evans", and you would've had a more valid position.

People are so hung up on this Marvel film universe, when for the most part it has amounted to absolutely nothing so far. Furthermore, just because they're under the same company, does not really mean they all concurrently exist within the same time line/universe. It shouldn't even matter, considering F4 and any Avengers member were never going to cross paths anyway.

hmm from marvels stand point doubtful. and I can't say I don't like Evans cause a number of pages ago in this thread I did say I like him. I don't like idea for this though, but I did say I liked him. so I can't be going around saying that. I don't have a split personality sorry man . As for them being all in one universe yeah well blame them(marvel) for putting that to the public Announcements that this was indeed th their plan of theirs all along. Not my problem really. in the long run of things that your arguing the opposite of what they put out on what their plans are. If not so they should change that and make really clear. not you them.

Yeah they should resend them selves saying that their no longer planning to have a full on marvel universe. where all our cool characters can meet for mega event. Til then man.

meh to this.
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first that editorial was moronic when two of your major problems are you will run into the same face while playing the

maverl​

movieverse​

card game and what will people do on YouTube when they are trying to cut their own civil war trailers then you lose credibility with me cause their could not be stupider reasons to dislike a casting

second you have a problem with an actor playing two heroes at the same time even though one franchise is over and they never could have interacted anyway, and your solution is to change actors after the first movie

so let me get this straight
1 face 2 characters=bad
2 faces 1 character within one year= good?

who said any thing about youtube? Ooooh wait right that guy I showed who made the article. That I can care less about that part.

As to the one franchise ending thing.

meh It doesn't matter. They can do a reboot if they like even, but when the public sees it and the rebooted film is some how even worse and those that liked the one evans was in better then it stands to reason that is the one people will want to remember regardless. Cause he him self did a good job in it. And they remember it made good money. and in Hollywood and to that public view that you would use on me could care less about the character if this was one of those conversations the view of a good movie is that that made more money then it took to make it.

Quality unfortunately unless it's people with actual integrity be damned. though I'd root for those that are for the quality.
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As for your last comment
"1 face 2 characters=bad ",

hmmm​

If that face is playing 2 different people that are supposed to be in the same damn universe that marvel stated time and again that their trying to recrate the marvel univers for the big screen, yeah. sorry man.

"2 faces 1 character within one year= good? "

seeing I was thinking in terms of period piece. it's not one year. I was thinking like what was done in Hanniba lecter prequal to silence of the lambs and that other one movie

Anthony Hopkins where he played that teacher who was having issue about himself being bi racial and they showed the transition of him self reaching a certain age to an older man. "yes ageing" that the same film where he was knocking up Nicole kidman mind you. Which was his present day for him later in life yes. it's a period piece. the show his freaking lifes story. That's doable and with in the realm where this will work. and you had that guy from prison break playing his younger self when he was freaking out that he was half black doesn't look that much like A.H. when he was young. but they did it. so what ever.


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[Chris Wallace]

As always, I will reserve judgement until I see Chris in the costume.

 

[captainrogers]

Marvel universe. FOX universe. And ne'er shall the two meet. (unless FOX stops making XMen, F4, Daredevil etc. flicks, in which case MARVEL STUDIOS gets the franchises back.) but yeah, the fact that Evans WAS Torch doesn't phase me for this reason. No matter who got the part, I hope when the movie comes out, the character is done justice.

 

[bluehulk]

We also don't have guys flying around in iron suits, god-like men who can cast down thunder with a hammer, and men who can hulk out.

The point is to take fantasy to the brink of suspension of disbelief. I don't get this ideal that we need to deviate far from the source material in terms of who the character was. This isn't "Saving Private Ryan". It's also not a documentary. His brawn wasn't some flukey bi-product of the SSS. It was made that way on purpose. I just want them to give us a taste of that. FOR ME, I don't claim to speak for anyone else, it's what I consider to be an important element of Captain America.

Dude what is it with you, all you do is try to find things to tear down this movie and before you say your not I've seen some of your post and you always have a little smart comment to say and yes this is the internet and everyone is entitled to their opinion but damn, if you don't like the casting of Evans maybe you should find something else to do with your time, and I don't know who you wanted to play Cap but I bet he didn't look like the body builder you see in the comics, so relax with that already.

 

[Rock Sexton]

i totally agree cap should have a more athletic shape body. which evans pretty much has. all he needs to do is add some mass like 10-15pounds of muscle and tone/cut his body up. There is no need for cap to be a huge muscle bound body builder type. And like someone pointed out only times we will probably see evans's body shown off will probably be when the SSS changes his body, in the USO suit. And if the battlefield suit does end up being something of a cross between the ultimates ww 2 suit. we wont be able to see all his muscles and all that there.

also interesting news that the ana faris rom com is changing production time frame and studios. This is good news there. Since it doesnt give evans a conflict now. Cant wait to see how evans will look come time filming kick starts.

How many more times must I click on this site and read somebody else spouting that we're looking for a musclebound bodybuilder type? This has turned into the straw-man argument. Nobody is asking for that. The ones who want to see a bulked up Evans are the ones who want to see some sort of intermediary representation of the character. If the "brawn" wans't so important, then when did they use it in the comics? If the "brawn" wasn't so important, then why did the SSS create his body into that?

Cap is an Adonis.... always is, always will be. He deserves the same treatment Hemsworth is giving Thor.

 

[TikkiEXX]

seems like some people cant seperate the Fox films from Marvels. theyre not connected in anyway(thank god) cant wait for Fox to lose the license anyways. they kinda suck. lol. but i think they pretty much have a deathgrip on the characters they own sadly.

 

[Rock Sexton]

It's not complete fantasy though, they've been trying to firmly establish this universe in a real world context. Because there are so many fantastical elements, unless you ground it in realism of character and historical context, people just won't connect to it, especially since it takes place in a point in history that has significance to everyone all over the world. Cap is already likely going to be doing some amazing things, flipping over enemies, throwing the shield, hijacking vehicles etc, that the more normal he looks as a human, the easier it will be to relate to him. Also, when you consider the dynamic in the Avengers, Cap has never been a heavy hitter role. Thats usually left for Thor and Hulk. Having 3 huge, muscly brawny characters isn't particularly that interesting... I think the comparisons between Cap and Olympians is quite good. I think a Spartan type physique is a good example too....

It's still fantasy! You stretch that until you get to the brink of suspension of disbelief. Cap's agility and moves are NOT going to be something "people relate to" .... he's unlike any other human being on this planet. That's what the SSS is for. As for having 3 huge muscle characters, those are three very different levels. Hulk is practically a monster. I don't know who you're talking about, but it wouldn't take away from my "interest" .... in fact it would heighten the fantasy aspect of it for me as a viewer, put more even more in touch with that element of comic books.

Rock, I don't think anyone is suggesting he doesn't look buff, more that there shouldn't really be an emphasis or a priority on it. I really don't think theres any risk of people not considering him to be a Superhero because he isn't bursting out of his costume. It's freakin Captain America! He's going to be bustin' Nazi skulls on the front line, with a shield, in a red, white and blue costume. If that isn't heroic enough for a general audience then thats pretty sad.

My argument isn't that he's not going to be recognized as Captain America. That is going to be instantaneous when he dawns the suit. For people like myself, it comes down to doing as accurate of a representation as you can without distorting the sense of realism they are trying to maintain.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Dude what is it with you, all you do is try to find things to tear down this movie and before you say your not I've seen some of your post and you always have a little smart comment to say and yes this is the internet and everyone is entitled to their opinion but damn, if you don't like the casting of Evans maybe you should find something else to do with your time, and I don't know who you wanted to play Cap but I bet he didn't look like the body builder you see in the comics, so relax with that already.

Again, not asking for a bodybuilder. Go back and re-read and come back to me when you have something adequate to say to me other than some waste of bandwidth personal jab.

 

[BoredGuy]

Yeah, F4 and Avengers were never gunna cross over, evryone knew that....
Some people gotsta relax.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I was in the military and trust me they didn't have much guys in there that looked like the muscled bound freaks that you see in the comics, with all the different types of training you do you end up losing more weight then you would gain muscle mass and the muscle you do gain is lean.
We had this big Italian kid who came when I did and the dude looked like a body builder but at the end of basic he had lost almost 20lbs but the was end he was more lean and had actually gotten stronger, I remember working out with this guy and he wasn't that strong in the beginning when he first got to basic he could only do 10 push ups because even though he had a lot of muscles he didn't have a lot of strength and the drill sergeants use to get on him by the time basic training was finished the dude had lost almost 20lbs. and his muscles were leaner but he was much stronger than when he came in, so I don't Chris has to get extremely buffed to play the part he just needs to tone up a little more.

Haha, that's embarrassing.

 

[Sparta*]

extremely poor casting choice IMO