First Avenger OFFICIAL: Chris Evans is Captain America

[Crook]

I disagree with your assessment of "safe pick." I'm curious to see how many people actually used that wording when they found out Bale was cast. I doubt many. Evans, IMO, is a "safe pick", because he has already played a superhero and he did a solid job. Bale was not a superhero before he was cast so I don't consider that a "safe" choice. It happened to be a choice many like though. Liking a choice and a safe choice are not the same thing.

They're both safe in different contexts. Bale was safe because his dark roles prior to Batman gave us a good indication of how and where he was going to take the role. We knew what to expect. Evans is safe in that he already has marketability, plus the leading man look/presence. The studios could have gone for a lesser name, but the casting of Evans is a sure sign they don't want to take that big of a risk. However, I don't think any of us have any idea of how he's going to play Cap, regardless of his other dramatic turns.

Like I said, I think I'd be more comfortable, a lot more comfortable if we had a better director.

This.

The difference between Cap and GL is that the latter has a proven director who works well with action and actors. So even if the star is usually known for his comedic wit, it stands a good chance that the project will turn out alright.

I'm cautious about Evans, but I am more than worried about Johnston.

 

[Lobo]

I've not yet seen Sunshine but nothing he did in Street Kings impressed me at all. As for for Krasinski, read my TMT article

Like I said, I think I'd be more comfortable, a lot more comfortable if we had a better director.

I did . Like I've always said, I had/have nothing against Krasinksi getting the part, but some here were making him out to be a Henry Cavill like messiah, where there was no other who could fill the red pirate boots, and to think otherwise you were a moron. That's what irritated me a bit. I said one thing about Cavill looking villainous over there and got replied to "with Oh please I look at Cavill and see a God!"

But we have Evans, and I have faith he will do a good job. I understand your concern with the director, though. he has made one good period superghero piece though so I think he'll do alright.

 

[Iceman]

Me I'm cool with it I guess I was hoping for an unknown.I don't know if he he really has the look or the personality.When I think Cap I think about as serious character he seems kind of silly at times perfect for Torch.I just think that that may be the route they are going for kind of like Iron man.They may be going for that light humor.Don't tell me you see him playing the role without a wise crack here and there.I just don't know if that is Cap.Also I don't know if I will be able to make the distinction between the Torch and Cap.I don't want to feel like I am watching the Torch play Captain America.Or feel like I am watching Chris play Torch play Cap.Also It kind of messes it up for me mentally or visually since I collect all of the Marvel Movies seeing him have a take on both characters it's like okay which one is he.....But then that may just be me.
However I think he can hold his own acting wise against Norton and Downey and I think he will look presentable in the suit.What really stinks is that Helmworth who is playing Thor winds up looking the youngest when he should be looking if not the oldest the most mature.
Instead he looks like a Kid.At least next to everyone else.Plus for Chris Evans playing Cap he may be young enough now but for three movies he may wind up being too old.It should have been someone younger.

Anyway what do you guys think?????

Cap & wisecracks..no way! t: Maybe one max.

With age I don't see an issue. In the 1st film you might want someone a bit younger while you are dealing with the origin story. After that I'm quite happy with a Cap in his 30s.

Chris Evans is an actor, if the role asks him to be serious he will play it serious, actors in comedic roles don't just waltz in and demand everything to be funny, they don't inject humour into every possible situation.

Yeah

 

[FaT_tONle]

Downloaded and watched Sunshine last night and he was good in it.

I had a tough time believing a bunch of models with well toned bodies and the works were the saviors of the solar system. Couldn't take Chris seriously when he tried to take command. The movie just didn't do anything for me, but maybe I was expecting the second coming of Kubrick's 2001 so...

 

[Compi716]

Wasn't there a post a bit back that had a picture of Evans on The Ellen Show yesterday or something with blonde hair? Or am I imagining things?

 

[FaT_tONle]

Wasn't there a post a bit back that had a picture of Evans on The Ellen Show yesterday or something with blonde hair? Or am I imagining things?

Kellan Lutz...

 

[Matt]

I did . Like I've always said, I had/have nothing against Krasinksi getting the part, but some here were making him out to be a Henry Cavill like messiah, where there was no other who could fill the red pirate boots, and to think otherwise you were a moron. That's what irritated me a bit. I said one thing about Cavill looking villainous over there and got replied to "with Oh please I look at Cavill and see a God!"

No, Krasinski wasn't the second coming. But I am confident he would've been really good and I am a bit disappointed that the opportunity was missed. Were it not for the fact that I am so in love with the idea of James Roday playing Flash, I'd be all for Krasinski having a go at that role.

But we have Evans, and I have faith he will do a good job. I understand your concern with the director, though. he has made one good period superghero piece though so I think he'll do alright.

My concern isn't that Johnston is capable of creating a good film, he is, with the right script. My concern is that Johnston will be unable to coach Evans to the level he needs to be coached. Johnston is not an actor director. The best performance he has ever gotten out of one of his actors was Robin WIlliams in Jumanji and that was not a case of Johnston directing a brilliant performance but Williams being Williams in a role that was perfect for him. Evans' style of acting is not naturally perfect for Cap, however. Therefore he needs, IMO, a director who can bring out the best in his actors and Johnston isn't that kind of director.

 

[chamber-music]

I had a tough time believing a bunch of models with well toned bodies and the works were the saviors of the solar system. Couldn't take Chris seriously when he tried to take command. The movie just didn't do anything for me, but maybe I was expecting the second coming of Kubrick's 2001 so...

Were you watching a different film. The cast were hardly models they didn't even wear make up because Danny Boyle wanted to avoid any romantic overtures.

 

[DeGenerate10]

I dont mind Evans but I would've prefered someone who hasnt been in the Marvel unvierse yet as an actor

 

[ImWithTeamConan]

Medium hair for this one, buzz cut for Avengers and sequels when he's arrived in 2010.

 

[drax]

I really love the choice of Evan and I'm really happy that it's not Krasinski in the role, I find Evans good actor in movies I have seen with him, he is handsome and very athletic, I think he have the good quality for to be Steve Roger.

For the director, I have really liked Wolfman, so I'm happy with the choice of Kenneth Johnson, he have done imo a good job with the movie despite the difficulty with Universal, the action/horror sequence was imo very well done.

 

[Weadazoid]

I don't mind it...


all things considered he is a good choice and ya know what folks in terms of Comic book looks

Johny Storm and Captain America look alot alike.... LOL

 

[roach]

I had a tough time believing a bunch of models with well toned bodies and the works were the saviors of the solar system. Couldn't take Chris seriously when he tried to take command. The movie just didn't do anything for me, but maybe I was expecting the second coming of Kubrick's 2001 so...

they were all scruffy looking and have you ever seen a fat astronaut???

 

[Agent 194]

Yeah, him being in FF is a concern of mine too. But then again Hollywood history is full of actors who've shared many genre roles. Buster Crabbe, Johnny Weismuller, and many more.

 

[FaT_tONle]

they were all scruffy looking and have you ever seen a fat astronaut???

I just felt Evans was definitely out of place. Maybe it was just what I was typically accustomed to seeing out of him, but it didn't allow me to suspend the plausibility anymore than I already could. I don't agree that it was this breakout, serious role for him. He has yet to break out. I hope some of these other roles between now and this change my view of that.

 

[Lobo]

No, Krasinski wasn't the second coming. But I am confident he would've been really good and I am a bit disappointed that the opportunity was missed. Were it not for the fact that I am so in love with the idea of James Roday playing Flash, I'd be all for Krasinski having a go at that role.



My concern isn't that Johnston is capable of creating a good film, he is, with the right script. My concern is that Johnston will be unable to coach Evans to the level he needs to be coached. Johnston is not an actor director. The best performance he has ever gotten out of one of his actors was Robin WIlliams in Jumanji and that was not a case of Johnston directing a brilliant performance but Williams being Williams in a role that was perfect for him. Evans' style of acting is not naturally perfect for Cap, however. Therefore he needs, IMO, a director who can bring out the best in his actors and Johnston isn't that kind of director.

Oh I understand your concerns and they are well founded. And yes you never acted like he was the second coming. Well when I overthrow Hollywood, Krasinski will star in the Blue Beetle movie, and Blue and Gold with McPartlin as Booster. Roday is perfect for Flash

 

[Iceman]

I'd just like to comment on the whole "Evans being a safe pick" issue.

Safes picks are NOT necessarily a bad thing! They typical, but sometimes typical is good. Krasinski was a RISK, and could have turned out either very good or very bad. With Evans we have a general idea of what to expect, and it's SAFE. We can sigh in relief.

Let me point out some other safe picks from a particular comicbook movie we're all familiar with:
Michael Caine
Morgan Freeman
Liam Neeson
Christian Bale

"Christian Bale?! How was he safe?!" If you're asking that question, you obviously never visited these boards in 2004. When a new Batman movie was announced Bale was THE fan pick. Why? Because by combining his performances in American Psycho and Equilibrium, you pretty much had a more extreme version of Batman. With Bale we knew we'd get exactly what we wanted, thus he was a SAFE pick.

So...ease up on Evans, guys.

Agreed. Cap is such an important role that I'm more concerned they don't muck up & do irreversible damage to the MU than I am with the possibility of 100% nailing it with a risky choice that might fail completely. Also nothing stopping a safe choice from nailing the role either.

I don't really mind Evans as an actor, but when you factor in Johnston, that is when I really get nervous. Evans has yet to have a real break through performance, he has yet to really act IMO. He cracks one liners and looks good for a camera and has some charisma, but thats really all I've seen from him. I want a real actor playing this role (especially after being teased with names like DiCaprio and Krasinski). I'm not sure that Evans is one, at least not yet and I really don't want him using Captain America as his testing ground. Especially with a director like Johnston.

Johnston learned the craft from George Lucas and his direction style shows it. He is a very hands off director when it comes to actors and just lets them walk through the parts while he focuses on other things. He's not like Marty Scorsese who works with his actors to get the best out of each and every one of them. Without a strong director directing him, I fear Evans is going to just keep doing what he always does and I honestly don't want that for Cap.

Dicaprio & Krasinski should never be in the same sentence lol. But my worries also are with the director. If Nolan had cast Krasinski I could have got behind it. With Johnston I think we need to be able to rely on the actor to understand the role fully themselves & execute it well, which may or may not happen.

 

[Matt]

Oh I understand your concerns and they are well founded. And yes you never acted like he was the second coming. Well when I overthrow Hollywood, Krasinski will star in the Blue Beetle movie, and Blue and Gold with McPartlin as Booster. Roday is perfect for Flash

I like it!

Agreed. Cap is such an important role that I'm more concerned they don't muck up & do irreversible damage to the MU than I am with the possibility of 100% nailing it with a risky choice that might fail completely. Also nothing stopping a safe choice from nailing the role either.

Nothing to stop a safe choice from failing either though. No choice is safe. Any actor in any role can turn in a crappy performance.

Dicaprio & Krasinski should never be in the same sentence lol. But my worries also are with the director. If Nolan had cast Krasinski I could have got behind it. With Johnston I think we need to be able to rely on the actor to understand the role fully themselves & execute it well, which may or may not happen.

And that's what makes me nervous with Evans. This isn't a guy who has exactly shown a great understanding of the craft or even particular skill in it. Without a strong director...he may very well suck ass, and as you said, Cap is the most important casting choice. He is the linchpin of Marvel's ambitious plan to launch all these heroes and do an Avengers blockbuster. If Evans sucks, it all goes up in smoke.

 

[chamber-music]

I really love the choice of Evan and I'm really happy that it's not Krasinski in the role, I find Evans good actor in movies I have seen with him, he is handsome and very athletic, I think he have the good quality for to be Steve Roger.

For the director, I have really liked Wolfman, so I'm happy with the choice of Kenneth Johnson, he have done imo a good job with the movie despite the difficulty with Universal, the action/horror sequence was imo very well done.

Ah Kenneth Johnson his my favourite director
the love child of Kenneth Branagh and Joe Johnston

j/k

 

[Paroxysm]

Everyone turns into an acting critic once they find out their choice wasn't picked. I'm sure Chris Evans will do fine.

 

[Brian Braddock]

I had a tough time believing a bunch of models with well toned bodies and the works were the saviors of the solar system. Couldn't take Chris seriously when he tried to take command. The movie just didn't do anything for me, but maybe I was expecting the second coming of Kubrick's 2001 so...

Were you watching a different film. The cast were hardly models they didn't even wear make up because Danny Boyle wanted to avoid any romantic overtures.

they were all scruffy looking and have you ever seen a fat astronaut???

I just felt Evans was definitely out of place. Maybe it was just what I was typically accustomed to seeing out of him, but it didn't allow me to suspend the plausibility anymore than I already could. I don't agree that it was this breakout, serious role for him. He has yet to break out. I hope some of these other roles between now and this change my view of that.

Tonie, are you sure you werent watching 'Supernova' by mistake?

If so, Evans was actually James Spader.

 

[chamber-music]

Everyone turns into an acting critic once they find out their choice wasn't picked. I'm sure Chris Evans will do fine.

True that Paroxysm

 

[roach]

Yeah, him being in FF is a concern of mine too. But then again Hollywood history is full of actors who've shared many genre roles. Buster Crabbe, Johnny Weismuller, and many more.

Boris Karloff-Played Frankenstein's monster, the mummy and Baron Von Frankenstein

Lon Chaney-Hunchback of Notre Dame and the Phantom of the Opera
Lon Chaney Jr-Wolfman, Frankenstein's Monster,the mummy, son of Dracula

 

[FaT_tONle]

Tonie, are you sure you werent watching 'Supernova' by mistake?

If so, Evans was actually James Spader.

Pretty sure it was the film with a ridiculous plot, but that aside, one of the cheeziest twists in the end that completely through me out of the movie, but most of the actors didn't bother me. I still laughed at most of Evans scenes. I am a big space epic guy, but unless it's Trek or Star Wars, I prefer the low budget features to be as grounded and as plausible as possible, unless of course it's trying to be Wars or Trek, which many space epics fail to do (ala Lost in Space). Something like Moon is right up my alley. I tend to pass on The Cores, Supernovas, Event Horizons, Red Planets. Sunshine was a little more respectable, but not nearly enough.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Boris Karloff-Played Frankenstein's monster, the mummy and Baron Von Frankenstein

Lon Chaney-Hunchback of Notre Dame and the Phantom of the Opera
Lon Chaney Jr-Wolfman, Frankenstein's Monster,the mummy, son of Dracula

They wouldnt have if there had been an internet in their day. You just know that Universal wouldve been sent a petition by hardcore, anal fans.