First Avenger OFFICIAL: Chris Evans is Captain America

[Project862006]

I don't mean in movies, I worded that wrong, I mean in the type of character that he played in those movies...what is the range?

And I'm not trying to argue the point, the only of those movies that I've seen is Sunshine, and he played a cocky, aggressive, hottie, as he did in Fantastic Four, and Cellular....I'm curious as to the other characters he played...

I don't think those are comparable to Johnny Storm at all he might of been somewhat cocky in Sunshine but it was more he knew what had to be done type of cocky i would say he was more sure of himself than cocky.Instead of Sarcastic/witty/smart ass that was Johnny Storm.

Street Kings - He played a by the book serious Cop kind of like Ethan Hawke in Training Day but he was not as jumpy and scared as Hawke was.

London - He was a drug addict to my recollection who let his addiction ruin his relationships and was a pathetic human being.I haven't seen it myself but that is what i got from what i have read and heard.

 

[Kelly]

ooooh wait.....yes...yes.....yes, I did see portions of London, and yes that character was far from the cocky guy character.

 

[jab1118]

Clearly he is most known by ff4 but what other movie has he played the cool funny wise cracking character besides Johnny storm. Even in another teen movie which is redicules(but funny)he is almost the straight guy. Name another movie where he s that guy that people say he is so typecast as. Especially since ff4 he had gone out of his way to do serious roles

 

[flickchick85]

What movies have shown his range?

Well aside from London, Street Kings, and Sunshine that others have mentioned, I'll add:

Fierce People - (WARNING, MASSIVE SPOILER) - he played a seemingly harmless, frat-boyish rich kid (almost a parody of Johnny Storm)... turned into a totally sick, creepy sociopath.

Also, considering people's concerns, it's worth mentioning that despite there being nothing for him to do in the movie, he DID play a more wholesome, all-around good guy in The Nanny Diaries. He had some playful banter with Scarlett Johansson, but the snark was kept to a minimum, and there really wasn't anything cocky about his character. Just a plain nice guy. And just based on the trailer posted in this thread, it would appear that his character was pretty earnest/wholesome in Loss of a Teardrop Diamond as well. So that aspect of Steve Rogers is not without precedent in his previous work.

Oh, and I don't know how anyone can think his character in Sunshine was similar to Johnny Storm. The only personality attribute they shared was confidence. There was nothing immature or funny about that character AT ALL. He was a very blunt, pragmatic, take-charge, down-to-business, "nothing matters but the mission" type in that.

 

[jab1118]

Clearly he is most known by ff4 but what other movie has he played the cool funny wise cracking character besides Johnny storm. Even in another teen movie which is redicules(but funny)he is almost the straight guy. Name another movie where he s that guy that people say he is so typecast as. Especially since ff4 he had gone out of his way to do serious roles

 

[TNC9852002]

Yeah..I think it's because he was so good at it in F4.

I liked how he played his character in Street Kings..

 

[Frodo]

don't they come hand and hand? are you reaching?

I think I can answer this, and this is just how I apply the terms because they can be subjective: A charismatic actor can hold your attention even in a scene in which they have no dialog. They have a certain charm about them that comes across on screen . Examples Sean Connery as 007 , Arnold Swartzenegger , Marlon Brando, etc . Basically when their in a room they suck up all the oxygen because everyone is focussed on them and drawn to them.

Personality applies when the actor isn't that great, but his own personality shines through enough in where the audience can at least feel for the character. He's not the center of attention and alot of times has a limited range, but his own personality can carry the audience through a film. Examples would be like Ben Affleck, Keanu Reeves, Justin Hartley and Tom Welling .

Now Evans is a far better actor then all of them , but at the same time I wouldn't say he grabs your attention on screen or you're drawn to him. He's a good actor, but he doesn't have charisma . Even actors like Dustin Hoffman don't have charisma imo.

However , Captain America is not suppose to be a charismatic figuare . He's a leader of sorts, and he's humble. I think Evans can pull that off in his sleep.

 

[Frodo]

don't they come hand and hand? are you reaching?

I think I can answer this, and this is just how I apply the terms because they can be subjective: A charismatic actor can hold your attention even in a scene in which they have no dialog. They have a certain charm about them that comes across on screen . Examples Sean Connery as 007 , Arnold Swartzenegger , Marlon Brando, etc . Basically when their in a room they suck up all the oxygen because everyone is focussed on them and drawn to them.

Personality applies when the actor isn't that great, but his own personality shines through enough in where the audience can at least feel for the character. He's not the center of attention and alot of times has a limited range, but his own personality can carry the audience through a film. Examples would be like Ben Affleck, Keanu Reeves, Justin Hartley and Tom Welling .

Now Evans is a far better actor then all of them , but at the same time I wouldn't say he grabs your attention on screen or you're drawn to him. He's a good actor, but he doesn't have charisma . Even actors like Dustin Hoffman don't have charisma imo.

However , Captain America is not suppose to be a charismatic figuare . He's a leader of sorts, and he's humble. I think Evans can pull that off in his sleep.

 

[E.Brock]

I dont care how good of shape evans was in in F4. I want him to put on at least 20 lbs of muscle...i want him to really look the part

 

[Ipodman]

I think hes physical self is quite ok...

 

[Nathan]

Ok, so I watched Sunshine. Evans can play a serious character, even one that takes charge, but I'm still not convinced that me might be a good Captain America. He didn't have that air surrounding him, that would make people want to follow him into battle. Let alone an army or a group of superheroes. The asian Captain that died early, he had a leader presence.

He will really have to act his ass off, if he wants to convince me that someone like Thor would unquestioningly follow him into battle.

 

[Aesop Rocks]

I dont care how good of shape evans was in in F4. I want him to put on at least 20 lbs of muscle...i want him to really look the part

Again, Tim Roth wasn't extremely fit when he got that version of the SSS and look what wonders he did with it.

 

[B]

Excellent news , I feel the same way about Chris Evans being cast as Captain America as I do/did about Ryan Reynolds as Green Lantern. I am very happy in regard to his look & with his general casting however I'll wait and see how it all turns out.

He was definatly the best choice of the rumored finalists IMO.

 

[Wolfman]

I'm sure Evans is a solid actor, but I am a little dissapointed. I can't see him as someone from the 40's. Of course he has to be modern too, but to me, he really doesn't look like Cap. One thing they got right on that 90's Captain America was Matt Salinger as Steve Rogers, he really looked the part. But Chris Evans, his facial features remind of bull terrier:

Anyone else see it? Oh well, maybe I'll get over it, and in some manips he looks okay, I guess.

 

[baerrtt]

I think I can answer this, and this is just how I apply the terms because they can be subjective: A charismatic actor can hold your attention even in a scene in which they have no dialog. They have a certain charm about them that comes across on screen . Examples Sean Connery as 007 , Arnold Swartzenegger , Marlon Brando, etc . Basically when their in a room they suck up all the oxygen because everyone is focussed on them and drawn to them.

Personality applies when the actor isn't that great, but his own personality shines through enough in where the audience can at least feel for the character. He's not the center of attention and alot of times has a limited range, but his own personality can carry the audience through a film. Examples would be like Ben Affleck, Keanu Reeves, Justin Hartley and Tom Welling .

Now Evans is a far better actor then all of them , but at the same time I wouldn't say he grabs your attention on screen or you're drawn to him. He's a good actor, but he doesn't have charisma . Even actors like Dustin Hoffman don't have charisma imo.

However , Captain America is not suppose to be a charismatic figuare . He's a leader of sorts, and he's humble. I think Evans can pull that off in his sleep.

Them's fighting wordst:! Hoffman, for at least over 20 years, was legitmately one of the biggest movie stars in the world and quite frankly given the number of outright or borderline *****ebags/irritants he portrayed during that time if he hadn't been charismatic, no matter how great an actor he was, there's no way he could've sold any of those characters to the public. Having charisma stood him out from contemporaries like Bruce Dern for example who played similar troubled characters but never connected with audiences enough to make him a successful leading man.

To be a successful movie star charisma is important and it sure as heck is the no 1 important facet of Captain America. Charisma in leading actors isn't limited to the 'look at me' showmanship of RDJ or, in his own way, Arnie back in the day but about basically getting the audience to convincingly like you even when the character you're playing demands an approach that may not automatically capture them. If Evans can do that come next year then he pretty much has charisma.

 

[NikfromICLP]

"Oh My God.

A poll. IT'S A POLL.


All opinions are now invalid regardless of how many people voted in the poll, voted multiple times in the poll or didn't even know about the poll"


true...

Yeah, but people still pay attention to them. Call me naive, but I figured you could only vote once on the SHH polls - and who would really take the time to try and rig an SHH poll anyway. It is just an opinion poll you might say, but comic book fan opinions clearly matter more that most (that's why we are here 60 pages into a debate).

You only have to look at John Favreau's comments about the importance of the comic book fan's opinions on his Myspace and other blogs as he was making the movie. And we got a tremendous film as a result.

As for the comment about knowing the difference between Johnny Storms marvel universe and Steve Roger's marvel universe - yes, comic book readers know best and understand the differences. But we're talking about a mainstream movie here, who's success will directly impact the success of future Avengers and Cap movies. The fair-weather comic book reader, the blockbuster movie-goer, (and their friends) have no idea, and think Chris Evans = Johnny Storm. However you look at it, it is impossible to ignore. It's his most high-profile part, and most people who watch movies think of Chris Evans as the guy that burst into flames in those comic book movies.

I'm going to hold my reservations until I see him in the suit. If I see Steve Rogers and not Johnny Storm, I will be a happy man.

 

[Iceman]

I think hes physical self is quite ok...

Pre-Cap-training, Evans has as good a starting physique as I would expect from a Cap contender. Can't really expect the guy to be in better shape than that before bulking up for the role. He seems like a natural athlete so it shouldn't be too difficult for the personal trainers to do their thing.

 

[Brian Braddock]

For me, it's all about the quality of Cap's muscles, not the size of them. Cap's the pinnacle of human physical fitness, not the pinnacle of human muscle mass. I see Cap more of a fitness competitor/athelete as opposed to a bodybuilder.

I know certain artists draw him like Arnold over the years but I'd say that's more down to artistic talent and knowledge of anatomy [or lack thereof] rather than being a stylistic choice, in that perhaps they can only depict characters with the same body type, and dont have the skill to set down any thing that differenciates the characters, build wise.

You want a good example of an artist on the top of his game depicting characters with different body types - go and look at Alan Davis' work. It's all there as it should be - The Power guys are hugely muscled, the atheltic guys are lithe and athletic and the speed guys are cut and wiry. No generic overly muscled body types used there.

I look at it this way, as long as Evan's looks like he's in good shape [which he does already but with a bit of added gym time will look even better given his obvious good genetics] he'll be fine as in comparision to the regular bods on screen, he'll look all the more impressive.

I sincerely hope that we arent going to have to be subjected to countless 'he needs to be bigger or this movies gonna suck' posts as we go through production. I also would find it ironic if I ever read said complaint from a poster who was a Krasinski booster, as I'd simply ask how big and well built they thought Krasinski would get.

 

[Nathan]

I agree. He doesn't need to look big, he only needs to look in top physical condition. Like you said, the pinnacle of human physical condition isn't about having the biggest muscles. Not only is Cap tough, but he's also quick, agile and athletic.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

No! He has to be huge and muscley or the movie fails!

I shouldn't pick on Bart Sears too much, but he's the guy I think of whenever I see supers portrayed with ridiculously exaggerated physiques. I've always pictured Cap as a lean but ripped guy myself. He's agile too, you can't dodge laser blasts with a giant bulky freakshow body.

 

[KangConquers]

For me, it's all about the quality of Cap's muscles, not the size of them. Cap's the pinnacle of human physical fitness, not the pinnacle of human muscle mass. I see Cap more of a fitness competitor/athelete as opposed to a bodybuilder.

I know certain artists draw him like Arnold over the years but I'd say that's more down to artistic talent and knowledge of anatomy [or lack thereof] rather than being a stylistic choice, in that perhaps they can only depict characters with the same body type, and dont have the skill to set down any thing that differenciates the characters, build wise.

You want a good example of an artist on the top of his game depicting characters with different body types - go and look at Alan Davis' work. It's all there as it should be - The Power guys are hugely muscled, the atheltic guys are lithe and athletic and the speed guys are cut and wiry. No generic overly muscled body types used there.

I look at it this way, as long as Evan's looks like he's in good shape [which he does already but with a bit of added gym time will look even better given his obvious good genetics] he'll be fine as in comparision to the regular bods on screen, he'll look all the more impressive.

I sincerely hope that we arent going to have to be subjected to countless 'he needs to be bigger or this movies gonna suck' posts as we go through production. I also would find it ironic if I ever read said complaint from a poster who was a Krasinski booster, as I'd simply ask how big and well built they thought Krasinski would get.

Cap is officially 6'2", 240.


This is former WWE Intercontinental Champion Val Venis. Height 6'2", weight 240 lbs.

That's about how big that looks. Cap is often drawn bigger than that (sometimes looks closer to 275-300 lbs) Sometimes he's drawn smaller than that, but that's how it's supposed to look.

Now Evans is 6', so he could get the same look off of being about 215-220. I'd say he's probably high 100s. 215 is probably hard, but he could easily break 200.

All in all, we have little to worry about in that aspect.

 

[Kmack]

GREAT write up by IGN.
http://comics.ign.com/articles/107/1079435p1.html

Nice read

I'm still a little shocked by the casting...but the more I think about it...I'm pretty sure Chris will make a convincing Cap. t:

 

[chiefchirpa]

Cap is officially 6'2", 240.


This is former WWE Intercontinental Champion Val Venis. Height 6'2", weight 240 lbs.


That's about how big that looks. Cap is often drawn bigger than that (sometimes looks closer to 275-300 lbs) Sometimes he's drawn smaller than that, but that's how it's supposed to look.

Now Evans is 6', so he could get the same look off of being about 215-220. I'd say he's probably high 100s. 215 is probably hard, but he could easily break 200.

All in all, we have little to worry about in that aspect.

Oh, just pad Evans with a muscle suit. t:

 

[TheFuture]

No! He has to be huge and muscley or the movie fails!

Someone should have told Steve to give the roids a knock on the head.

 

[Iceman]

Cap doesn't need to be huge. Unlike Thor & Hulk, speed, agility etc are just as important to him as strength.