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The first story arc from the creative team of Andy Diggle (THUNDERBOLTS) and Roberto De La Torre (IRON MAN) reaches its shattering climax. Backed-up by the ruthlessly loyal ninja army known as The Hand, Daredevil declares war on a murderous cadre of dirty NYPD cops -- and Hell's Kitchen is the battleground! But can Foggy Nelson and Dakota North find out who's really behind the recent spiral of violence before the city burns?
 
Love the art, this first arc has been ok.

Still good though, it's hard to live up to the expectations given when you have such great runs on a book before you.

I still have faith in Diggle, he just needs some time to set things up and get the ball moving.

I am loving the direction the book is going.
 
QUESTION: do I absolutely need to read BENDIS' DD if I want to read BRUBAKER'S DD?????
 
QUESTION: do I absolutely need to read BENDIS' DD if I want to read BRUBAKER'S DD?????

If you want to read some freakin' amazing DD comics then yes you do :)

But no, it's not really essential, The Devil Inside and Out is a great jumping on point. I started with Brubaker and discovered Bendis' a few trades in.
 
What DD enemies appear in Bendis + Brukaber serie? One thing that i've always found worrying on Daredevil is how his villain roster seems... Kingpin, The Hand & Bullseye thats about it. =S
 
The Owl and Mr. Fear are the ones that I can remember right now.
 
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What DD enemies appear in Bendis + Brukaber serie? One thing that i've always found worrying on Daredevil is how his villain roster seems... Kingpin, The Hand & Bullseye thats about it. =S

All of the above, also The Owl, Typhoid Mary, The Gladiator, The Hand, Vanessa Fisk, Tombstone, The Enforcers, Mister Fear, Lady Bullseye.
 
Hmm. I take it these things don't have Ultimate Collections yet? I'm not really interested in ordering +10 GNs from each story arc. :p
 
So 2 Omnibus volumes of Bendis and 2 Omnibus Brubaker then? I'll note those down then. :)
 
HAS ANYONE EVER READ DENNY ONEIL's run on DAREDEVIL? THAT WAS AMAZING!

its collected in tpb form called: LOVES LABOR LOST
 
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Compared to the Miller stuff and the modern stuff, whats better? I know my bookstore has the 3 volumes of Miller DD on the shelf for sure, not any Omnibus stuff atleast.
 
DRAZ it is cheaper to buy DAREDVIL VISIONARIES vol. 1-3 rather than the DAREDEVIL MILLER OMNIBUS...

but I have the same ?... what is better? MILLER OR BENDIS & BRUBAKER?
 
Well the thing is i'm very interested in Marvel universe and i've found DD interesting.. So i wanna read some INTERESTING stories to see is this guy worth to follow. :) Right now i mostly got Ultimate stuff and few Mainstream stuff like JMS' Thor, Dark Avengers, Ares, Ellis' Thunderbolts and so on, but mostly i got Ultimate books so yeah. It's a small step to a bigger world! :p
 
Daredevil is definitely the most interesting Marvel character.
 
DRAZ it is cheaper to buy DAREDVIL VISIONARIES vol. 1-3 rather than the DAREDEVIL MILLER OMNIBUS...

but I have the same ?... what is better? MILLER OR BENDIS & BRUBAKER?
Miller's stuff is the best, in my opinion, hands down. I'm also probably in the minority in that I prefer Brubaker's run to Bendis', mainly because Bendis' run was incredibly wordy and low on action. It reads far better collected, but as someone who first read it as it was being released, I was glad when Bendis finally left the title. Brubaker's approach was more traditional superhero fair, where he had Matt donning his Daredevil digs on a far more regular basis. Also much preferred Lark's work to Meleev's, which I've always found incredibly static for a superhero book. Not to mention I thought his action sequences (what few Bendis actually gave him to render) were always incredibly awkward to look at.

Don't misunderstand, though: all three of these guys' runs is worth reading, as is the bulk of Ann Nocenti's stuff. I'm also a fan of Kesel and Kelly's late runs on Vol. 1 of Daredevil, brief however they may have been. But if you just want to dip your toe in first and see if you're interested in the current tone and direction of the title, I'd suggest starting with #111 (or the "Lady Bullseye" trade) and working your way forward from there.

As for #504, I enjoyed it, as I have Diggle's entire opening arc so far. Never mind the fact that De La Torre's art is just great to look, the story's been a fun read, if not a bit predictable. I'm hoping, though, that Diggle's going to throw a curve at us at some point in the months ahead, and reveal that Matt has a better idea of what's really going on than Fisk is giving him credit for.

One thing I really like is how much Daredevil we're actually getting, as opposed to Matt, but without sacrificing his supporting cast's role entirely. I'm sure there's some symbolism there in that we've barely seen Matt's face since he became The Hand's leader, and it will probably come back to haunt him later when he actually looks himself in the mirror sans mask, but regardless of the reason, it's nice to open up the book each month and be fairly certain that we're going to see Daredevil going to work. I enjoy the crime and courtroom drama the title has often given us in the past, too, but I'm happy to get a good long stint of DD just kicking some tail, even if his motives and methods at the moment seem incredibly unorthodox.
 
Miller's and Bendis/Brubaker's work are two very different kettles of fish, it's like they're from two different eras of comics they read so differently. I personally prefer the modern (for lack of a better word) stuff by Bendis and Brubaker. I definately recommend reading Miller's run, the second vol of the Miller Visionaries books especially, as it conatains the arc when Bullseye kills Elektra, which is jaw-dropping stuff. But I'd say if you want to get into DD more then get straight into either Bendis or Brubaker's runs.

"Underboss" kicks off Bendis and Maleev's run and sets up the story arc of DD's identity being outed, which leads to him declaring himself Kingpin of Hell's Kitchen. As said above, it is more Matt Murdock focused, but I think that's the catch to the story. It's about how Matt Murdock copes with his identity going public and how his foes use that to screw up his life in and out of the mask.

"The Devil, Inside and Out" is Brubaker and Lark's first arc and starts off with Matt in jail with the criminals he's put there. The first vol is a definite read, even if you decide not to start with Brubaker. It really shows what DD's capable of :up:
 
Miller or Bendis/Brubaker? That's like Brady or Manning.

As much as I adore the Miller DD, the Bendis/Brubaker (and even Diggle so far) has been the best. But you could argue that you're comparing 2 or 3 guys to one guys run. It's a real tough call.
 
The thing is from what i've seen the early Daredevil has alot of... well villains you can't take seriously, but thats ofcourse because i have no clue about DD, it's like a random noob whining that Batman's Mad Hatter or Joker are lame heroes, but i mean DD has villains like... Purple man? The Owl? Stilt-Man? So yeah anyhow it's just from what i looked that the more modern DD stories have more lethal enemies, but really what enemies are in Miller's 3 volumes?
 
Death-Stalker, Bullseye, Doc Ock, some guy called The Mauler, The Gladiator, Kingpin, The Hand. I'm probably missing a few. He did also has a run in with the Punisher and Hulk though.

The thing is, DD is a street level hero, so he doesn't go up against heavy-hitters all that often. The Hulk was an exception in Miller's run, but that wasn't really a fight. And he takes out Mr Hyde in Bendis', but that only lasted a few pages. One of the best fights in Bendis' run was when he single-handedly took on a huge gang on Yakuza smacked up on MGH :awesome:
 
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