Official Green Lantern Casting and Discussion Thread

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People, teenagers, don't watch cartoons...

More people/teenagers watch cartoons than read comic books.

And it IS a matter of opinion around here.
Hal Jordan IS the Green Lantern
How much more opinion-based can you get?

Nothing can change the fact that John Stewart is more recognizable both directly and indirectly from JLU. But how many times have you heard that and ignored it? Again: It IS a matter of opinion, or else this discussion would have been over three GL threads ago.

Why not? The rings translate alien languages, certainly they can translate Mandarin Chinese or Spanish or something. I mean, when it comes to other super-heroes it can all be chalked up to coincidence. But Green Lanterns are specifically chosen out of the entire population of the world. Kinda silly that they only seem to come from America.

The power of these stories is in the audience identifying with the lead character. If you have a Chinese character in a chinese culture, not only would it require a great deal of research on the part of the writers to be accurate, but the audience would likel diminish, at least over the long term, because many people just aren't interested in Chinese culture, nor do they identify it... the power of the comic is gone.

Now stick that same character in American Culture, and boom, you've got a dozen things going on that the reader identifies with, understands and relates to, the story is now relevant and interesting instead of a culture lesson.

The metareason is so crucial to the success of the story, and thus of the book, that the fiction reason has to bend around it. Especially in the early 70s, when America still hadn't figured out how to portray fictional black characters in a positive light or even believe that they could be appealing to a broad white audience.

But yes, it makes sense for a Chinese person to get the ring, abundantly so, but I think we're just now getting to a point where that can happen, and to do so, DC would be on the cutting edge of horizon broadening... not likely.
 
More people/teenagers watch cartoons than read comic books.

Yeah, but it's still not that many. The fact is, a very, very, very large portion of a Green Lantern movie's audience will not have heard of the character before. If this movie was relying on comic and cartoon fans alone, it would bomb at the box office.

The power of these stories is in the audience identifying with the lead character. If you have a Chinese character in a chinese culture, not only would it require a great deal of research on the part of the writers to be accurate, but the audience would likel diminish, at least over the long term, because many people just aren't interested in Chinese culture, nor do they identify it... the power of the comic is gone.

Now stick that same character in American Culture, and boom, you've got a dozen things going on that the reader identifies with, understands and relates to, the story is now relevant and interesting instead of a culture lesson.

The metareason is so crucial to the success of the story, and thus of the book, that the fiction reason has to bend around it. Especially in the early 70s, when America still hadn't figured out how to portray fictional black characters in a positive light or even believe that they could be appealing to a broad white audience.

But yes, it makes sense for a Chinese person to get the ring, abundantly so, but I think we're just now getting to a point where that can happen, and to do so, DC would be on the cutting edge of horizon broadening... not likely.

So how is Tomar-Re more identifiable? I'd say I could empathize more with a British or a Chinese, or a French Green Lantern than I could Kilowog. Hell, i'd have more in common with a foreign GL than I would Guy Gardner (post-head injury). I'm only suggesting a supporting character role for a GL from another country, not a lead role.
 
Yeah, but it's still not that many. The fact is, a very, very, very large portion of a Green Lantern movie's audience will not have heard of the character before. If this movie was relying on comic and cartoon fans alone, it would bomb at the box office.

Who said anything about relying?

So how is Tomar-Re more identifiable? I'd say I could empathize more with a British or a Chinese, or a French Green Lantern than I could Kilowog. Hell, i'd have more in common with a foreign GL than I would Guy Gardner (post-head injury). I'm only suggesting a supporting character role for a GL from another country, not a lead role.

Okay, I was talking about the necessity of making a John Stewart character back in 1971 over making a foreign character... if you're talking about in the comics now, we already have too many GLs from earth, each with plenty of fans, to make another human GL viable, even if it 'makes sense.'

And how do you know you'd have more in common with these characters? Stereotypes? I'm sure there's a million frenchmen harder to relate to than Tomar-Re and Kilowogg since, despite their alien mythos, their core essence is human, put together by a human writer, relating in human stories. There is nothing inhuman about the way Tomar Re and Kilowogg think... heck, they are as westernized as any second (or more) generation American could be.
 
And how do you know you'd have more in common with these characters? Stereotypes? I'm sure there's a million frenchmen harder to relate to than Tomar-Re and Kilowogg since, despite their alien mythos, their core essence is human, put together by a human writer, relating in human stories. There is nothing inhuman about the way Tomar Re and Kilowogg think... heck, they are as westernized as any second (or more) generation American could be.

Fine, let me restate. I'd have more in common with a GL from a foreign country than I should have with an alien.
 
Heh , I'd offer an opinion on the subject but I believe GL1 will again shout out how crappy and stupid my reasons are but I'll happily state again that Hal should kick off the Green Lantern show irregardless of what implications that choice does to show of my state of mind. I'm sorry if I Like Hal just a teeny bit more than whoever it is you want for GL but like I said before what we all want our favourites and that's fair.

I want Kyle for GL but I still think Hal should feature but I do believe if they'd took it ala Star Wars then maybe it'd be more episodic and start somewhere in the middle or right towards the end and so forth and I still think it'd work if they really put a lot of effort into it. I'd prefer it if they don't though. Unless Peter jackson or someone of his caliber is working on GL , that approach could wind up a little disjointed storywise, so I rather go from A before I go to B and progress naturally from there. Also someone spoke of it being an ensemble cast before and I'm jumping on that
bandwagon. An ensemble cast of characters of GL staples would be awesome. Whether they'd do it though is still a big question though I wish it were a big YES !!!

Honestly though, I'd really go for just about any Earth GL barring of course a Mr Jack Black but my preference for Hal as focus of franchise still stands. He would just be freakin' awesome. (again just my opinion) And nothing and I mean nothing short of a Me-Buffy-Faith threesome would change it that. I'll say it loud and say it proud !!!


Hal Jordan IS Green Lantern !!!


MWAHAHAHAHAHA !!!! *ahem* :) heehee
 
Meh. Not convinced... it's possible that you're right, it's also possible that you're completely wrong.

As for Zar25, sorry if I was hard on you, but the whole Hal-centrism really turns me off to DC as a whole. I wouldn't mind if it was just fans, but even DC editorial seems to worship him just as hard, and I find it wearying that the people who determine how good the characters are seem to feel that one character is the absolute best at everything... even though THEY control that. And I just feel that accomplishment and experience wise, several GLs match up to Hal and the books never seem to show that, and that kind of illogic and bias is disgusting to me. I'm sorry if I took out my beef with DC on you though, cuz Hal is a very good character (that just happens to have ZERO appeal for me).

But I will take time to disagree with you that anything about the Star Wars stories are disjointed... starting stories in the middle is a time honored tradition.

That said, I'll just say as I said before, "The Green Lantern Corps > Hal Jordan." An Ensemble movie would own all.
 
I have no friends who watch Justice League...and in fact we looked it up already and 8-12 year olds watched Justice League NOT 18-24 year olds. People, teenagers, don't watch cartoons...they watch sports and play video games. It's not a matter of opinion. You post on a site with comic fans, that puts you in a VERY narrow group.

As I stated in my post, before Batman Begins I knew nothing about comic books - and that includes The Hype. I was not in that very narrow group.

And while I agree that 8-12 (though I think JL had a higher appeal range) those 8-12 year old kids grow up to be 18,19,20 years old. Even though none of my friends has seen a JL cartoon in years, they still remember the show.
 
Meh. Not convinced... it's possible that you're right, it's also possible that you're completely wrong.'

Maybe there's a way to prove if it's true or false but I'm doubtful anyone's gonna be pulling considerable resources for such a silly and rather moot point.

<"As for Zar25, sorry if I was hard on you, but the whole Hal-centrism really turns me off to DC as a whole.">

No worry, i never really did take it too seriously. Was just a simple case of blowing off some steam but I do agree that for some fans the Hal worship can be a bit much . It's a fandom thing. Kinda like if you're a Buffy fan whose fav character was Xander and Spike was everybody else's dreamboat. It's bound to get on your nerves at some point. I'm a Xand fan by the way. So I think I know how you feel :)

< "I wouldn't mind if it was just fans, but even DC editorial seems to worship him just as hard, and I find it wearying that the people who determine how good the characters are seem to feel that one character is the absolute best at everything... even though THEY control that.">

I don't think DC editorial is approaching it that way. I remember that DC were very nervous about putting Hal in the swing of things after the crap they put on him and it was Geoff Johns who had gone to great lengths to prove to DC that the classic character still had some good stories in him. You have to understand that before this Hal was considered a no-go for years. The silver age character was considered off limits and pretty much passe'.

When Geoff was on the cause the hype suddenly began to build up and then suddenly everybody wanted Hal back. Rebirth was an absolute success so DC stuck with the program. So for many fans bringing back Hal into the spotlight was a looong time comin'. The back to basics approach worked and that's why we have Hal-centered madness thus far. Arguably Hal is the most famous name attributed to Green Lantern and DC on their part seems to be putting him out there so to speak. The new animated feature focuses heavily on Hal if I'm not wrong so that's why I won't be surprised if Hal was a slot in for GL the movie , and Hal is hardly the best at everything. He's screwed up a lot despite the hero thing. That was how he started anyways and now he's still screwed up. He's more shiny now though :)


<"And I just feel that accomplishment and experience wise, several GLs match up to Hal and the books never seem to show that, and that kind of illogic and bias is disgusting to me. I'm sorry if I took out my beef with DC on you though, cuz Hal is a very good character (that just happens to have ZERO appeal for me).">


The only person so far that I feel that has matched Hal in terms of accomplishment is Kyle. He's the one that helped take Parallax down , he's the one that brought back the Guardians. In terms of experience John and Guy and Kilowog's are about on par I think but what DC I feel has always maintained is the fact that Hal had the most ability. He was the most natural ring bearer. No GL could take Sinestro before he did. That spoke volumes of what he was capable of at the time. Even the Guardians deemed him somewhat 'special'.

Also we have to take into account that Hal was the character that ushered in the Green Lantern Corps and because of that he was always gonna be the golden boy of that act. Just can't be helped really.

What I feel is funny though is how John stewart of JL animated fame is an amalgation of Hal and John. It's why I chuckle everytime someone points out John's uniqueness. What saved John for me in JL was his camaderie with Wally West/ Flash and the Shayera love angle. I'm still bummed that Kyle didn't get to pair off with Wally though. Those two were a freakin' hoot in Grant Morrison's JLA.


<"But I will take time to disagree with you that anything about the Star Wars stories are disjointed... starting stories in the middle is a time honored tradition.:>

I didn't say all stories that follow that tradition are by default disjointed, I just meant proper guidance is needed to ensure that they aren't. Stars Wars if we're getting to that was okay by my standards but I do feel that
episodes I and II could have done better with a more focused direction.


<" An Ensemble movie would own all.">


Amen to that brother :) Pretty much my opinion too.
 
Heh... gotta respect an informed opinion. Well posted. And while I do feel that several things that occurred in Mosaic put John on Hal and Kyle's level, I can understand if someone thinks that it's 'out of continuity' with the way DC has ignored it. I also fail to see any similiarities between animated John and Hal, save for them being in different branches of the american Military...

But the uber-hero Hal has so much appeal, especially since Superman failed to be the uber-hero he's always been concieved in favor of emoness, it kinda blots out any hope of seeing anything other than the Green Lantern that's been shoved down my throat for the past couple years... meh.
 
Look at this guys.
http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272616238.shtml
MEANWHILE: Is Boreanaz starring in "Jurassic Park 4"? It's been reported, but when asked about it, he laughs and says, "That would be nice. I don't know when I would do that, but I believe in the power of belief, so why not?" And as for reports that he'll play Marvel Comics character Namor in a film called "Sub-Mariner," he says, "I haven't tried on the Speedos quite yet. I did do the voice of The Green Lantern, Hal Jordan, for 'Justice League: the New Frontier'" -- the forthcoming animated D.C. Comics film. "That's something I'd really like to go for if they did it as a live action film."
 
As much as I want Hal Jordan. If they go with Stewart here is your man...

Morris Chestnut
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GL will defintely be black.

Chestnut is a good choice.
 
I've never read a Green Lantern comic, only a few ensemble JL comics, so it doesn't matter to me which version they cast. I remember the JLA show, I think Lantern was black in there but I also remember a white Lantern too...lol
 
Well, supposedly the last GREEN LANTERN pitch (the serious one) involved John Stewart training Kyle Rayner to stop Hal Jordan who was going Parallax. That's an angle I could see working on film. But I'd rather not see that in the first film of a franchise.



Thats an angle that I would like to see in the first solo GL film as well.

I wrote script treatment on a similiar storyline....
 
from darkhorizons.com: http://www.darkhorizons.com/news07/070923a.php

Audition took place this past week for the "Justice League" project and notices mailed out have confirmed some details.

First up, shooting is slated to begin mid-February in Sydney, Australia and the shoot will run for approximately three to four months under the helm of the confirmed George Miller.

The production is currently based out of Seattle, and they are searching "for the 8-9 leads for this action feature film".

What do they require? "We are looking for Male actors 18-35 years old; Caucasian and Black. The primary focus should be to find Caucasian actors. There is 1 role for the Black Actor. We are looking for Female actors 20-32 years old; any ethnicity."


well well well
looks like its john stewart unless they want MM to be played by a black guy
 
As much as I want Hal Jordan. If they go with Stewart here is your man...

Morris Chestnut
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thats exactly what i thought the second i saw that guy!...still...wish they were going with Kyle rayner-but as the previous discussions show people will always want the version of GL they most identify with
 
hes pretty cool but already a superhero (phase shifter man...um walks through walls man...uh ghostdude?) plus Morris seems a bit more rugged which fits for John
 
hes pretty cool but already a superhero (phase shifter man...um walks through walls man...uh ghostdude?) plus Morris seems a bit more rugged which fits for John

I don't think he's coming back in Season 2. And don't think playing Green Latern and D.L. is that big a deal since people here try to suggest Jessica Alba for every single female comic book role short of Aunt May & Ma.


Anyone suggest Roger Cross, the guy that plays Curtis in 24?
 
I don't think he's coming back in Season 2. And don't think playing Green Latern and D.L. is that big a deal since people here try to suggest Jessica Alba for every single female comic book role short of Aunt May & Ma.


Anyone suggest Roger Cross, the guy that plays Curtis in 24?

True,look at Halle Berry with Storm and Catwoman (ugh). I just think John has to be an imposing guy with a little more maturity than some of the other members-but it looks like the JLA movie will feature younger versions of the characters anyway so he could be a good fit in that sense
 
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