Revenge of the Fallen Official "How you would of done it" Thread

[marvelman2006]

I wanted to start this up and just give your opionions on how you would have made rotf.

I'll start us off, I would have made it just the autobots against megatron, starscream, the fallen and the contrsucticons. this way we can get used to the new autobots and decepticons, also there would not be as much confusion on which bot is who. This is why the first one worked so good because the numbers on both sides were small enough to where the audience could follow.

Also i would have eased back on the american pie type stuff. this is a transformers movie right?

 

[DemonicFoil]

Agreed, i would of liked to see a hand full of autobots battle devastator, yes i know he wasn't much of a threat (besides that vacuum attack) because he was only crawling towards the pyramid but still it would been nice too have (besides the twins) Sideswipe, Arcee, and Jolt take him on.

 

[AnorexicBatman]

Have a hard rock remix of the TRANSFORMERS animated movie theme by LION complete with lyrics play during the climactic battle

 

[protocida]

I'd do some things different:

The introduction: I'd use the novelization version: Optimus Prime introducion, followed by a scene of six cavemen hunting an sabretooth tiger. The tiger is crushed by a giant metal foot. It's the Fallen. He catches one of the cavemen and scans him. He says "Is this life? Pathetic", as he throws the caveman out. The others bow and reverenciate him. One of them detaches from the group and finds the Sun Harvester at the fields below, with the Primes surrounding it. Cut to black.

Shangai: I'd have Demolishor's attack to be longer. He'd fight the NEST helicopters and jeeps before running. Sideways chase would also be longer, with more Arcee and Sideswipe. Optimus, Ironhide and Ratchet would take Demolishor out together.

NEST headquarter's attack: More Ravage. t:

College: More comedy. t:

Megatron's rebirth: It'd be longer and more epic.

Nemesis: The Fallen would be trapped in an dimensional vortex and would comunicate with Megatron by a interdimensional window.

SmithSonian Museum: More Jetfire. t:

The quest: Sideswipe and Jolt would be part of the group.

Final battle: Big changes:

. Devastator would be more dynamic. Arcee, Sideswipe, Jolt, Skids and Mudflaps would take them out.

. I'd substitute the "Constructiclones" by protoforms and end the polemics.

. Scorponok would attack Sam and Mikaela and Sideswipe would fight him.

. Arcee would protect Mikaela from protoforms.

. Megatron would use the Matrix to free The Fallen, who would put it inside the Sun Harvester. Jetfire would sacrifice his spark and his part. Ratchet would form the armor inside of the warehouse and Jolt would eletrify it, attaching it to Optimus.

. Longer JetPrime VS. The Fallen, Megatron and Starscream scene, with Megatron betraying the Fallen.

 

[SUPER SAIYAN D]

1. Replace Mudflap and Skids with Sideswipe and Sunstreaker.

2. Have Megatron reborn as Galvatron.

3. Instead of nameless decepticon clones, just feature Soundwave, Ravage, Starscream and the constructicons.

4. Have Devastator transform into a Giant recognizable robot instead of a giant vaccum cleaner.

5. Made the Fallen more badass.

6. Made Jetfire a younger Badass instead of an old man.

7. Have Arcee as a car instead of motocycle.

8. Had the Decepticons kicking military ass instead of vice versa.

 

[T-CLIPSE]

Really all they need to do is get rid of the adolescent, prepubescent tone of the movie and it's not that bad.

Give the franchise a more respectable treatment and stop trying to appease the audience by aiming for their crotch (Megan Fox) and resorting to crude humor sight gags (robot balls) and trying to pass it off as comic relief.

I like Bay as an action guy but his vision on Transformers is just not for me.

 

[SUPER SAIYAN D]

Really all they need to do is get rid of the adolescent, prepubescent tone of the movie and it's not that bad.

Give the franchise a more respectable treatment and stop trying to appease the audience by aiming for their crotch (Megan Fox) and resorting to crude humor sight gags (robot balls) and trying to pass it off as comic relief.

I like Bay as an action guy but his vision on Transformers is just not for me.

 

[chaseter]

1. Have Arcee be used as Mikaela's protector. Sam has Bumblebee and now Mikaela would have Arcee. You could even tap into another sub plot with Bumblebee liking Arcee and she not liking him back. Which, would give some more development for the both of them.

- This would also allow Mikaela to have a kick ass chase sequence with possibly Barricade. Megatron's followers stuck here on Earth want revenge. Barricade is killed.

2. Only have one shard piece. Since there is two, Sam could have used his shard to revive Optimus and that is a big plot hole. Sam would have gotten the information in his head because he was the last being to have the cube when it was destroyed. The information was automatically passed to him. He starts seeing things and he doesn't know why.

3. The twins can still be in this movie but leave them at the beginning with their intro scene and then have them show up for the final battle. Replace them with Sideswipe and Jolt.

4. The Fallen should be trapped in another dimension. The Primes sent him to another dimension to protect Earth and then sacrificed themselves to protect the Matrix. Since the Fallen is just sitting there waiting, why didn't we see him in TF1? It was a plot hole.

5. Megatron's re-birth should have been as someone said, more epic. It went by so fast. Have the Constructicons destroy that entire fleet and head down to work on Megatron and revive him with the shard piece. Have them use robot parts from the dead robots already down there...not by sacrificing a robot.

6. Tone down the physical humor by a lot. Thong, three humping scenes, farting, etc...was too much. We still need humor, but there was way too much.

7. Have Megatron and Starscream trade Sam's parents for the Matrix. Megatron uses the Matrix to open up the dimension and allow the Fallen to come to Earth.

8. Optimus is revived because Jetfire gives his spark to Optimus. Before he does so, he tells them to give Optimus his parts for battle.

7. The final battle was edited bad. Have the Decepticons beating the tar out of the military. Kill Tyrese or Josh off, Tyrese imo, to make the battle have impact. Have Fallen arrive and tell the Constructicons to open the machine. Have Skids and Mudflap go after Devastator but they need help. Sideswipe and Jolt go to help while Ratchet, Ironhide, Bumblebee, Arcee, and Jetfire hold off the invading protoforms and the other Decepticons. Meanwhile, the Fallen is holding off military air and ground support and owning them. Devastator is destroyed. Jetfire and Optimus combine and Optimus heads out to destroy Fallen. Megs and Starscream intercept and are beaten down by Optimus. Fallen and Optimus fight and it is more longer and more epic.

 

[Darth Megatron]

I would have the Demolishor scene be longer where ironhide tries to stop him and gets injured And have Optimus Take him out

Megs Ressurection would be longer And very epic w/ Soundwave greeting him once he awakens

The Fallen would be in a vortex prison w/ only the matrix to free him

Megs would fight prime in the forrest but would i the end have instead of grindor have Soundwave & Starscream help hold Optimus dowm after he is stabbed but not dead to take the matrix from his chest

Then Sam would use the shard to bring prime back

In Eygpt there would be Shockwave coming w/ the protoforms to lead the battle and no clones for the constructicons so at first the will be fighting and whooping the military until prime & the autobots come then when Megs frees the fallen they form devastator to open the machine and Prime forms w/ jetfire to take out Devs then Starscream and Shockwave would fight prime but scream would flee to save is own skin while shockwave fought to the death.

Then when Prime & The fallen begin there epic battle Megs would throw in his lot to betray the fallen and then it would be a triple threat match between The Fallen vs Megatron vs Jetprime but Megs would be knocked out of the fight then like in the movie Scream would tell Megs live to fight another day and Prime would continue
a one on one wit the fallen until he would kill the fallen by using the machine against him

 

[marvelman2006]

5. Megatron's re-birth should have been as someone said, more epic. It went by so fast. Have the Constructicons destroy that entire fleet and head down to work on Megatron and revive him with the shard piece. Have them use robot parts from the dead robots already down there...not by sacrificing a robot.

i notice something about this and it is when the constructicons jump off the tanker into the ocean down to megatron. ok now one thing you can clearly tell that later in the film when all decepticons arrive to earth that the shot where the us carriers get wiped out was cleary meant to be the constructicons arriving for the first time. follow me?

 

[Figs]

Have a hard rock remix of the TRANSFORMERS animated movie theme by LION complete with lyrics play during the climactic battle

LOL

I love it when people have a good sense of humor.


Oh yeah, I like a lot of the ideas everyone has thrown out too. I would replace the twins in just about all their scenes with Ironhide(my favorite)and Ratchet. Either take out the scene where Devastator sucks up one of the autobots or have him start to suck up Ratchet and then have Ironhide fire a few missles at his ass to help out.

 

[Rain]

I'd do some things different:

The introduction: I'd use the novelization version: Optimus Prime introducion, followed by a scene of six cavemen hunting an sabretooth tiger. The tiger is crushed by a giant metal foot. It's the Fallen. He catches one of the cavemen and scans him. He says "Is this life? Pathetic", as he throws the caveman out. The others bow and reverenciate him. One of them detaches from the group and finds the Sun Harvester at the fields below, with the Primes surrounding it. Cut to black.

Shangai: I'd have Demolishor's attack to be longer. He'd fight the NEST helicopters and jeeps before running. Sideways chase would also be longer, with more Arcee and Sideswipe. Optimus, Ironhide and Ratchet would take Demolishor out together.

NEST headquarter's attack: More Ravage. t:

College: More comedy. t:

Megatron's rebirth: It'd be longer and more epic.

Nemesis: The Fallen would be trapped in an dimensional vortex and would comunicate with Megatron by a interdimensional window.

SmithSonian Museum: More Jetfire. t:

The quest: Sideswipe and Jolt would be part of the group.

Final battle: Big changes:

. Devastator would be more dynamic. Arcee, Sideswipe, Jolt, Skids and Mudflaps would take them out.

. I'd substitute the "Constructiclones" by protoforms and end the polemics.

. Scorponok would attack Sam and Mikaela and Sideswipe would fight him.

. Arcee would protect Mikaela from protoforms.

. Megatron would use the Matrix to free The Fallen, who would put it inside the Sun Harvester. Jetfire would sacrifice his spark and his part. Ratchet would form the armor inside of the warehouse and Jolt would eletrify it, attaching it to Optimus.

. Longer JetPrime VS. The Fallen, Megatron and Starscream scene, with Megatron betraying the Fallen.

Better than the actual movie

 

[Symbiote666]

Nvm.

 

[protocida]

 

[8wid]

A different Autobot character.




They would be the ship!

 

[The Guard]

Less gross humor. Not none, just less. There's really no reason for The Twins to exist. Replace them with Sunstreaker and Sideswipe. There could still be bantering, there could even be some cultural banter, just not as much.

A little bit more character development. Prime would be struggling with the Transformers presence on Earth, his responsibility as their leader, and he would want an end to the fighting. Essentially, he'd need to become rededicated to sticking it out by the end of the film. Duhamel's character having some family issues with his commitment to NEST VS his wife and child, maybe some issues with Epps about the autobots and his command.

Epps not quite trusting the robots, and Ironhide not trusting the humans. They probably could have bonded in some way.

Mikaela would want Sam out of the Transformers war, which would give him a reason not to want to be involved anymore. By the end of the film she would have realized his place in events, as well as her own. I'd give her a bit more "warrior" elements to develop over the course of the film. Maybe with Arcee. Frankly, I'd have played with the idea of "men VS women" with Mikaela and Arcee.

If Leo's going to be there, then he needs to change somehow. Grow into his role in the Transformers world, not just scream and run, though that element wouldn't be horrible to keep in some fashion, as he does provide a foil for Sam and his actions.

Lose the bit with the Tomb of the Primes.

I would have shown Ratchet attending to wounded on the battlefield.

Show the machine actually starting to mess with the Sun, not just powering up.

2. Only have one shard piece. Since there is two, Sam could have used his shard to revive Optimus and that is a big plot hole. Sam would have gotten the information in his head because he was the last being to have the cube when it was destroyed. The information was automatically passed to him. He starts seeing things and he doesn't know why.

4. The Fallen should be trapped in another dimension. The Primes sent him to another dimension to protect Earth and then sacrificed themselves to protect the Matrix. Since the Fallen is just sitting there waiting, why didn't we see him in TF1? It was a plot hole.

Sam potentially being able to use his shard to revive Optimus (not that we know he could have) is not a plot hole. It's something you don't understand why he didn't do. A plot hole is a problem with the actual structure of the plot that makes events difficult to believe.
Likewise, The Fallen not coming to Earth in the first film is not a plothole either. He simply wasn't involved in the first movie's events, and why would he have been?

 

[Grievous]

only thing I would change is Demolishor dieing, he would escape and live to be in the thrid.

and I would make it more clear which Deception was killed to bring Megatron back. Because no one seems to know for sure.

 

[knowsbleed]

I would definitely show less military ops, especially during the last half hour of the movie. Afterall, this is Transformers... not GI Joe.

 

[Chris B]

- Drop Skids, Mudflap, and Jolt. Replace them with Prowl, Wheeljack, and Sunstreaker.

- Soundwave traveling with Megatron to the Nemesis and coming down to Earth at least for the climax.

- Starscream openly insulting Megatron once or twice.

- Megatron planning to eventually betray the Fallen

- Include Barricade, as well throwing in Skywarp, Thundercracker, and Laserbeak.

- Ravage surviving.

- Ironhide and Ratchet getting more to do.

- The Fallen not being taken out so easily.

- Tone down the humor in certain parts.

- No recycling of CGI models.

- The Decepticons upgrading their armor so the military can't take them out so easily.

- Devastator battling all of the Autobots at once and ultimately being defeated by them.

 

[protocida]

The humor was good. I'd only take out the humping. Maybe leave one scene with Mojo if it's necessary. I'd prefer Wheelie to kiss Mikaela's leg. It'd be funny and not too gross. Maybe take out Simmon's lucky underwear (I tough it was funny, but there are WAY too many people complaining).

I'd also reduce the number of Autobots of the movie. I'd like Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Ratchet, Ironhide, Arcee (Only one). Maybe replace Skids and Mudflaps with Sideswipe and Sunstreaker.

The Decepticons are fine. Megatron, Starscream and the Fallen would be more badass, tough. I'm thinking about using the Allspark shard Sam encounters to revive Blackout and use him instead of Grindor, and have Wheelie awakening Jetfire.

 

[SUPER SAIYAN D]

- drop skids, mudflap, and jolt. Replace them with prowl, wheeljack, and sunstreaker.

- soundwave traveling with megatron to the nemesis and coming down to earth at least for the climax.

- starscream openly insulting megatron once or twice.

- megatron planning to eventually betray the fallen

- include barricade, as well throwing in skywarp, thundercracker, and laserbeak.

- ravage surviving.

- ironhide and ratchet getting more to do.

- the fallen not being taken out so easily.

- tone down the humor in certain parts.

- no recycling of cgi models.

- the decepticons upgrading their armor so the military can't take them out so easily.

- devastator battling all of the autobots at once and ultimately being defeated by them.

i can dig it !!!!

 

[SUPER SAIYAN D]

I always wondered why Bay didn't include Thundercracker and Skywarp in ROTF. You would think that after Megatron went down in the first movie that Starscream would try to have built his own army and Thundercracker and Skywarp would be his generals ( He kinda tried to do this in IDW's Bayformers sequel comic Reign of Starscream).

 

[chaseter]

Sam potentially being able to use his shard to revive Optimus (not that we know he could have) is not a plot hole. It's something you don't understand why he didn't do. A plot hole is a problem with the actual structure of the plot that makes events difficult to believe.
Likewise, The Fallen not coming to Earth in the first film is not a plothole either. He simply wasn't involved in the first movie's events, and why would he have been?

They used one piece of the shard to revive Megatron. The other piece of the shard could have been used to revive Optimus...it was a plot hole.

The Fallen not being in the first film and him just setting up there chillin' was a plot hole. You would think that the master of the loyal servant would want his loyal servant to succeed and transform the Earth's machines into robots since it was probably his orders for Megatron to do so. If the cube was found, then the Fallen would obviously want it because they need energon very badly and he wanted energon very badly.

 

[nogster]

i would do away with the silly sun death machine.
and keep it the more traditional environmental story of the decepticons wanting to pillage the earth of its resources to turn it to energon.

you could even do this while keeping the same scenes and general story as well.

simply put.

the pyramids are actually "space bridges" built to convert the earths core into energon and send it back to cyberton.

and megatron Betrays the fallen.
this is a must and what really dissapointed me about the film.
megatron is no apprentice. he is megatron! he bows to no one.

 

[CelticPredator]

Have a hard rock remix of the TRANSFORMERS animated movie theme by LION complete with lyrics play during the climactic battle

And you thought THIS movie was bad? Christ, with that song playing....wow....


Anyway, The Fallen should've just taken out cites. A few in fact. To show he aint messing around. Then he could get the energon or whatever.

I dunno....maybe have Jetfire take them straight too the Prime Tomb. Save time.....

Other then that, i'm fine with the flick.