Iron Man 3 Official Iron Man 3 rate/review thread. - Part 1

[darkslayer101]

I take it you were trying to reply to my post. It appears to have been erased.

[blackout]
I think with most people it just doesn't sit well that Pepper could do such a thing. I don't want movies to spell everything out for me, but at the same time I wasn't going "Oh yeah, Happy Hogan totally taught her that move and gave her that killer instinct.".

I don't see Happy Hogan as being capable of doing such a thing

It just doesn't mesh well with the character. The way she Shoryukens the attacking armor out of the sky, rips off it's arm, throws a missile at Killian and then wears the arm and blows up Killian and the missle using a repulsor blast.

At least thats what I remember happening. It's just too much. [/blackout]

[BLACKOUT]although it seemed over the top, it sames plain though, all she did was shoryuken, took out the glow, threw the missile and blasted it at Killian. I guess in writing it looks fine, but yes when she executed it, it felt like she knew it all along.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[Ultra Nolanite]

8.7/10 for me, very close to a 9/10 (there was a bit too much emphasis on the action in the 3rd act for my taste), but overall I enjoyed it tremendously and if The Avengers wouldn't exist it would be the best MCU movie to date.
I saw it three times already and I'm planning to watch it again tomorrow. I just can't get enough of it. such a clever, intelligent script for a blockbuster movie is astounding.

The mind boggles. What did you find astoundingly clever and intelligent about this script. ? It's just...help me wrap my head around it. I want to like it, but maybe I'm just missing something.

 

[darkslayer101]

I've read the Extremis storyline and what they do with it is frankly a disgrace. How Mandarin and Extremis were handled left be apoplectic with rage. I've wanted to see these too storylines since the first IM movie, well, careful what you wish for.

i personally thought extremis was handled well. After all it was creating a fake attack to persuade gov. to fund the project. I thought it did well. Although Hansen's part was developed but then immediately dropped.

 

[darkslayer101]

The mind boggles. What did you find astoundingly clever and intelligent about this script. ? It's just...help me wrap my head around it. I want to like it, but maybe I'm just missing something.

I am gonna be honest, when i watched it in Tuesday, i immediately thought this was in league with the avengers. But after settling with my thoughts on the movie, imo i felt like it was up close with IM1.
I thought the script did its job in bringing the best out of the characters.
Its way ahead of IM2 for me.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

I don't quite understand how anyone could criticize the action, it was arguably the best part of the movie. "To quick" and unimpressive?

Yes unimpressive. Not one action sequence here was intense or all that exciting to me. I especially expected the plane sequence to be glorious instead it was far from it and shot too shakey for my liking.

 

[Mr.M]

At the end of the day I think Iron Man 3 will be more like Superman Returns where fans will like it but feel like they should have loved it and for the most part leave Iron Man fans split on their opinion on it. That's how I see it for the most part.

Bad comparison. I think TDKR is the movie that parallels this one. Obvious the Nolan trilogy has always been more respected, so it will be tough to view the two as analagous. But I think that's the trilogy IM will always be compared to, especially the last installments. Far as the trilogies:

1. TDKT
2. IM
3. Spiderman
4. X-Men

Just had to slip that in there.

 

[C. Lee]

I take it you were trying to reply to my post. It appears to have been erased.

It was deleted because 95% of it was Batman discussion.

 

[spider-neil]

i personally thought extremis was handled well. After all it was creating a fake attack to persuade gov. to fund the project. I thought it did well. Although Hansen's part was developed but then immediately dropped.

What I liked about Extremis is how scary the bad guy was as he heads to DC. Tony is almost killed by him the first time so under goes Extremis to heal himself and give himself an edge. The sense of threat and stakes just weren't there for me. Black should have made Extremis or Mandarin and done one or the other storyline justice. Just like SM3, too many plotlines, spinning too many plates and unfortunately (imho) all the plates come crashing down.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

The mind boggles. What did you find astoundingly clever and intelligent about this script. ? It's just...help me wrap my head around it. I want to like it, but maybe I'm just missing something.

It basically is a reflection about racism and prejudice in modern western civilization and this is what it does very well and very subtle.
An then there is the character study of Tony Stark the question about his own identity, something that other movies tried to do so many times and all of them failed. IM3 is the first one to actually achieve to tell it in a very smart way.

 

[Crimson King]

Bad comparison. I think TDKR is the movie that parallels this one. Obvious the Nolan trilogy has always been the more respected, so it will be tough to view the two as analagous. But I think that's the trilogy IM will always be compared to, especially the last installments. Far as the trilogies:

1. TDKT
2. IM
3. Spiderman
4. X-Men

Just had to slip that in there.

See, I think that's a bad comparison because this isn't a trilogy; it's an installment in an ongoing franchise. It's not wrapping up a character's arc. As much as it gets said around here, it's true--this is a Bond-like series.

 

[darkslayer101]

What I liked about Extremis is how scary the bad guy was as he heads to DC. Tony is almost killed by him the first time so under goes Extremis to heal himself and give himself an edge. The sense of threat and stakes just weren't there for me. Black should have made Extremis or Mandarin and done one or the other storyline justice. Just like SM3, too many plotlines, spinning too many plates and unfortunately (imho) all the plates come crashing down.

Ya i was most dissapointed by that than the plot twist. In the comic Tony was in near death situation and had to take extremis. I know its a repeat of IM1 but it would have been great to add life/death situation for Tony.
When Hansen showed Tony the slip with the solution, i had hopes for extremis infused Tony, but sadly that didnt happen. I think they want Tony to be human and rely on his intellect than being physically altered.
So i think they made the sense of stake with pepper being held hostage with extremis. In the contrary i think the problem with IM3 is that there is not enough plotlines.

 

[Mr.M]

See, I think that's a bad comparison because this isn't a trilogy; it's an installment in an ongoing franchise. It's not wrapping up a character's arc. As much as it gets said around here, it's true--this is a Bond-like series.

Okay... the slash out was kind of unneccessary. I won't view X-Men as a trilogy after DoFP in 2014. As of now, it's a trilogy. Yeah I agree with your point though. With Avengers sandwiched in there, it's not a trilogy. I just don't see any parallels whatsoever to Returns and IM3 in terms of the fan dessension. All for vastly different reasons.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

It basically is a reflection about racism and prejudice in modern western civilization and this is what it does very well and very subtle.
An then there is the character study of Tony Stark the question about his own identity, something that other movies tried to do so many times and all of them failed. IM3 is the first one to actually achieve to tell it in a very smart way.

I do see your point but by focusing every ounce of energy on Tony it really left every single other character poorly developed and at times laughable.

 

[darkslayer101]

I do see your point but by focusing every ounce of energy on Tony it really left every single other character poorly developed and at times laughable.

Really? i thought even Happy had his time to shine with the short amount of screentime he got. Even Eric Savin and the kid was great.

 

[Norek]

See, I think that's a bad comparison because this isn't a trilogy; it's an installment in an ongoing franchise. It's not wrapping up a character's arc. As much as it gets said around here, it's true--this is a Bond-like series.

I agree. The IM3 trilogy is not exactly a trilogy. It doesn't work well on it's own.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I've read the Extremis storyline and what they do with it is frankly a disgrace. How Mandarin and Extremis were handled left be apoplectic with rage. I've wanted to see these too storylines since the first IM movie, well, careful what you wish for.

Yeah, I'm getting to the point where I don't want to see my favorite story arcs incorporated into a movie b/c I fear the end product after they "adapt" it.

 

[Juicy J]

Yes unimpressive. Not one action sequence here was intense or all that exciting to me. I especially expected the plane sequence to be glorious instead it was far from it and shot too shakey for my liking.

Ya know, walking out of the theatre I thoroughly expected this movie to be divisive and get it's fair share of criticism but I would've thought the one thing you couldn't count off against it is how much action it had, and how well directed and cool it was. People in my theatre, myself included, were going nuts over it.
Guess you can't please everyone, but geez. I thought the action in this movie was rivaled only by the Avengers, and that says something.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Really? i thought even Happy had his time to shine with the short amount of screentime he got. Even Eric Savin and the kid was great.

Did you really see character development in This film aside from Tony's story arch?

 

[JerseyJoker]

I liked it, had a few problems, but no more than IM2, but i still rank the first Iron Man film as the best of the trilogy.

 

[spider-neil]

Yeah, I'm getting to the point where I don't want to see my favorite story arcs incorporated into a movie b/c I fear the end product after they "adapt" it.

Still waiting for Kraven's Last Hunt. The story is so brilliant even Bay couldn't **** it up.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Still waiting for Kraven's Last Hunt. The story is so brilliant even Bay couldn't **** it up.

Ha! You'll be eating those words when they make Kraven a Chinese woman.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

Did you really see character development in This film aside from Tony's story arch?

actually I did, yes. For Rhodey, for Pepper...even Happy has a small arch on his own. Of course they are not the titular character and the emphasis is still on Tony, it is Tony's story after all...well about 70% of it, the rest is probably Killians story, but all of the cast had development... just not the on the nose, over the top character development one might get in other movies.

 

[spider-neil]

Ha! You'll be eating those words when they make Kraven a Chinese woman.

HA! Okay, maybe he could **** it up t:

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

actually I did, yes. For Rhodey, for Pepper...even Happy has a small arch on his own. Of course they are not the titular character and the emphasis is still on Tony, it is Tony's story after all...well about 70% of it, the rest is probably Killians story, but all of the cast had development... just not the on the nose, over the top character development one might get in other movies.

I saw absolutely no difference in Pepper or Rhodes from the beginning to the end of the film. Believe me I did want Tony to have great development and it's most important but everything else felt very tacked on. They could of had the same focus on Stark and at least of fleshed out the villain but yet that did not happen at all.

 

[spider-neil]

I saw absolutely no difference in Pepper or Rhodes from the beginning to the end of the film. Believe me I did want Tony to have great development and it's most important but everything else felt very tacked on. They could of had the same focus on Stark and at least of fleshed out the villain but yet that did not happen at all.

I'm not really bothered by a lack of character arcs for supporting characters as I'm mainly there to see the hero but it's nice when you get it. The lack of a character arc for the main character is pretty unforgiveable UNLESS the whole point is the character doesn't change (Blade/Dredd etc) and that's when you HAVE to develop the supporting cast.