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[ThePhantasm]

Can't shoot ice out of your fingertips... but you can shoot fire out of your mouth?

 

[spider-neil]

Aliens appeared in Avengers.
Gods (advanced aliens) appeared in Thor.
The 'realistic' ship has sailed.

You can't say you couldn't use the 'magic rings' because they aren't realistic, IM is not set within a realistic world.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Compared to an old man shooting a tornado, black holes, and ice out of his fingertips? Yes, that's a big difference. It's called science fiction and fantasy. You may as well be comparing Star Trek to Harry Potter.

id argue though, and i loved (this take on mandarin btw) that it would have EASILY been possible and explainable, as well as believable. with Asgardian magic or Chitari alien tech none the less....

they certainly could have pulled off magical rings if they wanted to. but they did not.

 

[Immortalfire]

I find to be humorous, and sad that so many reviews of the first two Iron Man films accused SHIELD's presence of ruining said films. Now that SHIELD isn't in IM3, it too is ruined.

Which way do you want it?

 

[Norek]

I've seen the movie twice. Not many people laughing at it.

Not sure I believe you, but whatever, my point stands - the scene was intended to bring a comedic effect, as every other "funny" scene in this movie.

 

[Immortalfire]

Thread manager restarted the thread and killed the poll.

I will blast him with my repulsor rays

 

[Incredible Hans]

Compared to an old man shooting a tornado, black holes, and ice out of his fingertips? Yes, that's a big difference. It's called science fiction and fantasy. You may as well be comparing Star Trek to Harry Potter.

I see. An old man shooting a tornado, black holes and ice out of his fingers is ridiculous.
And a nerd scientist turned smart businessman who is breathing fire and tearing armours apart with bare hand obviously isn't.

 

[mkilban2]

Starting to get the feeling this flick flew over a lot of peoples heads.

yes, people are so dense and caught in their ways. If it isn't exactly like they had previously pictured in their heads then it's the worst thing ever and there's no turning back.. lmao

 

[Ultra Nolanite]

id argue he actually was more angry over the supposed pepper death... he kinda went all "gloves are off" with killain. Not only that.. but I think Pepper's death is a bit harder to process..

let's keep in mind that nothing phased Stark in avengers UNTIL things got real with Coulson's death. And once he was able to decompress.. and had nothing left to think about but Aliens, Gods, Extra Dimensional beings... he snapped.

he obviously was not handling those things well... and Stark has a pretty deluded sense of reality... especially in this film. It's like when he first broke down in Tennessee, it was also the first time he had to also deal with the fact the Mandarin just attacked his house and sent everything he had into the ocean and nearly got his greatest love killed in the process. He didn't cope with it right after it happened.. he put it off. The larger the shock the less he deals with it (this much is obvious) and Pepper dying is a MAJOR shock to his system. So i wouldn't expect for him to deal with it instantly.

Did he ? I know I was going "Oh **** Killian you dun done it now" "Mark-42 inbound get ready for a severe beating". "Get ready for a barrage of lasers, rockets, massive chest RT, iron melee, all that good stuff."

That is what I expect from the movie at that point and it was certainly long overdue. But what happens ? Mk-dopey2 trips and explodes in a dozen pieces. And Stark goes "whatever"

What do you MEAN whatever ? So you don't care about Avenging Pepper ? You know what they say about those that don't care about Avenging, they're not true...*dies

People will certainly disagree but in some cases there's no going around it, I absolutely want what I expect, just do me a favor and DON'T surprise me. Give me that bad ass showdown.

After the Hulk stopped the Leviathan dead in it's tracks and we get the epic assembly scene in The Avengers, did we not expect a bad ass showdown ? We did, we got it and we ate it up.

In the case of IM3 and then that Pepper death scene in particular it's like your girlfriend teasing you with sex all day, then when the two of you are finally in bed at night she dozes off. You'll be up all night cursing the nine realms.

Don't tell me I should be happy because I expected sex and she "surprised" me with none.

 

[Incredible Hans]

Can't shoot ice out of your fingertips... but you can shoot fire out of your mouth?

Ice fingers are magic, fire mouths are science.

A tornado ring is magic, Iron Man's Self-Steering and Flying-without-Propulsion Codpiece of Doom is science.

 

[Heretic]

In the case of IM3 and then that Pepper death scene in particular it's like your girlfriend teasing you with sex all day, then when the two of you are finally in bed at night she dozes off. You'll be up all night cursing the nine realms.

My girlfriend was just deconstructing our relationship, that's all. I love her because she was smart enough to not give me what I wanted.

 

[danoyse]

Folks, there's a definite tone of snarkiness towards each other regarding your opinions of the film. I would suggest you direct your feelings, be they positive or negative, towards the film itself. It works out much better for you that way.

 

[spider-neil]

Don't tell me I should be happy because I expected sex and she "surprised" me with none.

Surprised me with none? The twist in this movie is more like she surprised me by pulling down her skirt and she has a penis.

 

[Ultra Nolanite]

Surprised me with none? The twist in this movie is more like she surprised me by pulling down her skirt and she has a penis.

Haha, K.O. ! t:

 

[Incredible Hans]

Folks, there's a definite tone of snarkiness towards each other regarding your opinions of the film. I would suggest you direct your feelings, be they positive or negative, towards the film itself. It works out much better for you that way.

I don't know if this is referring to something I wrote, but in any case, I'd like to say that I respect another person's opinion. For me, the movie was mediocre, but I have no problem with other people loving it. But this forum is a place where you can say why you like it or don't like it.

And while it shouldn't get insulting, it's okay for me if we fool around a little bit. I can take it and I hope everybody else can. I won't feel insulted by a funny gif.

However, what I don't like very much is if this discussion goes like "If you don't like the Mandarin twist, you can't be an intelligent person". I'm not stupid. I understood what they tried to do with that twist. It's not that I don't get it. I just don't like it.
So people, please stop pretending that those who liked the twist are more clever than those who didn't. Believe me, you can be an intelligent comic fan and still think that the twist was a bad idea.

 

[Norek]

I'm getting very annoyed and offended by some of these similar implications like "You don't get it" and such. And I've said millions of times that I'm very happy others are enjoying it, but I can't just agree and suddenly like something when I don't. I acknowledge the film's problems that didn't work for me, and I see others are doing the same thing. I've seen many good reasons people bring as to why they like or dislike the film, and that's fine. No need to revert to name-calling because others don't see things the way we do.

 

[spider-neil]

I'm getting very annoyed and offended by some of these similar implications like "You don't get it" and such.

The exact same defence used for Inception (another hugely overrated movie).

 

[Figs]

Finally saw this last night after a week of seeing people discuss the twist who saw it early.

I think I would have been really letdown and possibly bitter if I hadn't heard about the twist before seeing the film. I ignored comic canon and enjoyed the movie for what it was and I really liked it. I think the first
is still my favorite, but this movie is better than the second film at least.

Kingsley was fantastic as the actor and I enjoyed the humor that came with that role. The part that had me cracking up was when he fell asleep and snaps out of it with a look of surprise and starts drinking his beer again. Doesn't sound all that funny when reading about it, but the way he acted out that quick little bit was great. As for the "Mandarin", he was all right, just typical movie villain acting.

My wife had no idea Kingsley's character was really just a drunk/junky actor, but she guessed near the beginning of the film that Pearce's Killian was in fact the main bad guy. As she said, it was kind of obvious because like in a lot of films, he was kind of the typical evil scientist type that was out for revenge in a way. I do think it was great how the movie kind of flipped the typical villain role in regards to the Mandarin/Actor(I can't remember the name of Kingsley's real character), but I only say kind of because as I just pointed out, it was a bit obvious and cliche with Killian as your somewhat typical evil scientist. So I do think some fans are in fact trying to make this film sound just a tad bit smarter than it really is.

I really enjoyed the action despite Tony being out of the suit a lot of the film, but then again, in the previous two films he wasn't in the suit for the majority of the time either. As for the Air Force One scene, I thought it was going to be a bit far fetched or silly looking but Black pulled it of well. The final action scene had some really good moments but was also a bit of a mess in some areas.

I'm having trouble deciding on what rating to give this film, but I'm thinking 3.5/5 or maybe just a tad higher. I can't recall a third film in a trilogy being this good, but I guess it's not that hard to achieve when the second film was fairly weak. As for RDJ, I really hope he returns for Avengers 2 and I'm crossing my fingers he'll make an appearance in Avengers 3 if that's the film we're going to have to wait for to see them battle Thanos. I know that's quite a few years off, but it would be disappointing to see any of the main Avengers cast get replaced by the time they fight Thanos, it just wouldn't be the same. I say just don't make anymore IM films with RDJ to give him a break so he can pick other roles for now.

The end credit scene was great and got a good number of laughs and some clapping in the theater. Some fans are disappointed with it, but I guess they just wanted more of an in your face Avengers reference or nod to what's to come. I really can't wait to see where they take RDJ and Ruffalos friendship in Avengers 2.

One last thing. Seeing Favreau with long hair in the beginning of the film was damn funny. Wasn't expecting that at all. My wife was so happy at the end of the film when Stark rescued his little helper robot. I was too to be honest, I've come to love that machine after three films.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

I'm getting very annoyed and offended by some of these similar implications like "You don't get it" and such. And I've said millions of times that I'm very happy others are enjoying it, but I can't just agree and suddenly like something when I don't. I acknowledge the film's problems that didn't work for me, and I see others are doing the same thing. I've seen many good reasons people bring as to why they like or dislike the film, and that's fine. No need to revert to name-calling because others don't see things the way we do.

It's why I haven't even bothered to talk about IM3. According to some in here, I don't get the movie and the twist.

 

[Figs]

It's why I haven't even bothered to talk about IM3. According to some in here, I don't get the movie and the twist.

Like I said in my review/thoughts on the film just up above, some are trying to make this film sound smarter then it really is. My wife guessed Killian was the main bad guy near the beginning of the film. It was the old evil scientist cliche basically.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

The exact same defence used for Inception (another hugely overrated movie).

And mods and fans in here wonder why these threads get hijacked by Nolan talk.

 

[J.Howlett]

My son's Hall of Armor.

 

[spider-neil]

I find to be humorous, and sad that so many reviews of the first two Iron Man films accused SHIELD's presence of ruining said films. Now that SHIELD isn't in IM3, it too is ruined.

Which way do you want it?

Lack of Avengers or SHIELD was the least of this movies problems. No Avengers or SHIELD didn't bother me at all.

 

[Xeno]

Love the movie.

But my favourite part of this movie is seeing so many of the critical comments in this thread highlight EXACTLY what this film was trying to achieve.














The genre politics of this film are sensational. It's so much smarter than superhero movie fans want their movies to be. It dismantles the propaganda and artifice of that audience-product relationship, as much as it dismantles the various themes it tackles (particularly, villainy - media and the US paradigm - terrorism(s) - popular/marketed warfare).

It's enjoyable whilst punishing you for enjoying it.

I can't think of a more apt way to follow up the Avengers.

Finally! Someone gets it.

Joss Whedon's The Avengers was the apotheosis of the superhero genre, whereas Shane Black's Iron Man Three was the subversion of it. Every trope the genre is built upon was pulled inside-out, inverted and spin on its axis in this film in ways we've never seen before.

Instead of giving the audience a by-the-numbers repetition of comic book cliches, Black chose to hit all the expected marks in a drastically different form than other films. He gave us the damsel in distress, the crafty villain, the trusty sidekick and the adorable fatherless boy, but presented them in ways that were more of a commentary on the stereotypes than anything else. The end result was brilliant and subversive and absolutely amazing.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Like I said in my review/thoughts on the film just up above, some are trying to make this film sound smarter then it really is. My wife guessed Killian was the main bad guy near the beginning of the film. It was the old evil scientist cliche basically.

In my defense, I wasn't expectating Marvel Studios to pull a twist like this after The New York invasion. I honesty thought that the IM franchise (along with other MCU titles) was fully enveloped in fantasy, or at least a somewhat grounded version of it. My instincts were pointing toward Killian but I neglected them. That's on me. I'm not even a fan of The Mandarin but the twist killed the potential for the character in my opinion.

I appreciate IM3 (enjoyed the humor, performances and 'little moments' like Tony saving his robotic helper as you mentioned) but there were several over-the-top scenes that made me question the writing.