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[ElMariachi]

Anyone think the Roxxon oil spill reference could be a future Namor set up?? I sorta geeked out about that did bit

That Roxxon stuff was an interesting addition to the movie. It would probably be a bit too political for a summer blockbuster but I would like to see them be a rival to Stark Resilient in a sequel. Instead of Armor Wars, make a Energy Wars movie. I think that could be a exciting next step for Tony. Expand on the direction of his company after IM1.

 

[Incredible Hans]

Currently the movie is at 78% at RT.

Let's compare:

Iron Man 93%
Avengers 93%
The Dark Knight Rises 87%
Captain America The First Avenger 79%
Iron Man 3 78%
Thor 77%
Superman returns 76%
Iron Man 2 73%

I think at this point it is safe to say that movie history will remember IM3 as a good film with a highly controversial plot twist. But not as a great film.

 

[dpucane]

I get what they were trying to do by turning the tables and being different, but the twist felt to silly for me.

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I would have rather they combined the VP and Mandarin, with the actor being forced to perform because something was actually at stake. The drug addict soccer fan was just too silly

In fact, that was my main problem with the movie (aside from disappointing action). They added so much unnecessary silliness. Tony was still making one liners after he thought

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Pepper

had died. There were good jokes throughout but it got to the point where it was taking the focus away from Tony and everything that mattered.

And the action with the suits was just really really MEH

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Ha ha! The dance number. Where's your sense of humour? t:
Now you're going to call me a hypocrite for not being able to laugh at the Mandarin in the same way

The difference is the movie was built up as one thing and then delivered something different entirely. The whiplash (no pun intended) was so jarring it instantly made me turn on the movie to the point I could have happily got up and left the cinema there and then.

Emo parker was to me as to what Trevor Mandarin is to you.... I didn't really find mandarin that funny either. The concept in a low brow robot chicken kinda way it was i guess.. But being a fanboy i didn't find it funny. I did however find the Mandarin / Killian and Iron Man / Tony parallel brilliant.

It wasn't about the humor to me


And as for getting up and leaving... I never do that... But Spider-Man 3 and Dark Knight Rises i certainly wished i could have

 

[spideyboy_1111]

That Roxxon stuff was an interesting addition to the movie. It would probably be a bit too political for a summer blockbuster but I would like to see them be a rival to Stark Resilient in a sequel. Instead of Armor Wars, make a Energy Wars movie. I think that could be a exciting next step for Tony. Expand on the direction of his company after IM1.

That concept is a bit dated in the MCU though with all of Stark Enterprises clean energy stuff... I don't think Roxxon oil is going to feel like much of a threat.

I always found them more interesting as a Namor villain and why Namor hates the surface world so much

 

[dpucane]

Also the whole

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NOBODY DIED

thing felt very Disney and ridiculous

 

[Compi716]

The difference is the movie was built up as one thing and then delivered something different entirely. The whiplash (no pun intended) was so jarring it instantly made me turn on the movie to the point I could have happily got up and left the cinema there and then.

So let me get this straight, and please correct me if I'm wrong: the marketing ruined the movie for you. What I mean is, if you hadn't seen a single piece of IM3 promo material - no posters, trailers, stills, or TV spots - then you wouldn't have the expectation that [blackout]Kingsley's Mandarin was the uber-villain of the film[/blackout]. If you had gone in totally blind, you wouldn't have a single expectation, not one preconceived notion of what the story, in your mind, should be.

This is what I'm talking about. For any Hype! user currently in this thread reading reviews who hasn't seen the movie yet: STOP. Don't have in your mind any ideas of what the film is "supposed" to be. Enter it blind and experience it on its own merit...which is exactly what the film-going experience should be.

 

[Compi716]

Also the whole

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NOBODY DIED

thing felt very Disney and ridiculous

Seriously? [blackout]The main villain died.[/blackout] If you're referring to the fact that no supporting character kicked the bucket, well...EVERY OTHER SUPERHERO MOVIE [excluding The Dark Knight] EVER must feel very Disney to you.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Also the whole

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NOBODY DIED

thing felt very Disney and ridiculous

That's sorta lame considering ANIMATED Disney films have killed off good characters Haha....

Also plenty of civilians died. We saw that at the Chinese Theater.......

Certain characters they just arnt going to kill off...

Though i do wish the president was killed and the Vice president took office which would bleed into Captain America's "political thriller" of a sequel... And possibly usher in the return of Red Skull which would have been an awesome thing to do....

 

[Incredible Hans]

I get that they aren't actually magic but they may as well be. How much time would this movie have devoted to explaining the orgin of the rings? To would have bogged the plot down too much and changed the style of the movie too much. It takes too much away from Thor and the more fantasy related characters.

I will also state right now that I think that Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver in Avengers 2 is a very bad idea.

From now on, every morning when I wake up I will thank God that you are not Marvel' script writer.

With someone like you, we would have never got such a fantastic Avengers film with Thor, Loki, Tesseract, Chitauris, the sceptre, Leviathans, Thanos etc.

 

[Compi716]

Though i do wish the president was killed and the Vice president took office which would bleed into Captain America's "political thriller" of a sequel... And possibly usher in the return of Red Skull which would have been an awesome thing to do....

Totally. I was thinking the same thing. A terrorist in the White House is the perfect way to reintroduce Red Skull into modern times. The animated series (Earth's Mightiest Heroes) did it pretty well, and it could be something incredible - and wholly unique - in the MCU.

Also, every time Roxxon is mentioned, it makes me think of Aleksander Lukin. Hopefully that comes into play in CA:TWS, as that's a huge huge HUGE part of that storyline.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Totally. I was thinking the same thing. A terrorist in the White House is the perfect way to reintroduce Red Skull into modern times. The animated series (Earth's Mightiest Heroes) did it pretty well, and it could be something incredible - and wholly unique - in the MCU.

Also, every time Roxxon is mentioned, it makes me think of Aleksander Lukin. Hopefully that comes into play in CA:TWS, as that's a huge huge HUGE part of that storyline.

Yeah, Roxxon , AIM, and possible early Ultron possibilities in Stark's sentient armor were the only things i could wrap my head around in Feige's comment on Phase 2 and how we might not see how it's connected till later.

The president's incident with Roxxon and the oil spill seemed like really specific thing to mention without explaining too much.... It seemed oddly important

 

[Incredible Hans]

Yes, it does matter. Magic rings are campy. The CGI to support these awesome powers emitting from someones hand would more than likely be suspect. It's a personal opinion and has been so long before this movie came out. I don't want to see Iron Man bogged down with explanations of further alien worlds and cultures. This isn't Green Lantern.

I don't think you are understanding the difference between fantasy technology and fantasy. Transporters, lasers, arc reactors, Iron Man suits, lightsabers, hyperdrive space travel, and miracle drugs is sci-fi. They aren't currently possible but perhaps they will be in the future. Magic swords, spells, magic rings, the Force, dragons, orcs, and talking trees & animals is straight up fantasy. Keep the more believable stuff in Iron Man and Captain America. Save the ridiculous stuff for Thor, Avengers, and Guardians of the Galaxy. This is all I am saying and I don't think I am being unreasonable.

I understand the difference between fantasy technology and fantasy.

I say that Mandarin's rings are fantasy technology. You don't. That's it.

You are entitled to have your own opinion, of course, but you act like your opinion is the only truth. For me, flying armour parts and an extremis virus that makes you breath fire are on the same level of fantasy technology as are alien rings that can control minds and shoot ice. For you, they aren't. Fine.

But you seem to think that almost everyone thinks the same way about all of this as you do. I doubt that. It would be interesting to make a poll among moviegoers if they think that fire breathing scientists are less fantastic and magical than mind controlling rings. I bet you would lose.

 

[dpucane]

That's sorta lame considering ANIMATED Disney films have killed off good characters Haha....

Also plenty of civilians died. We saw that at the Chinese Theater.......

Certain characters they just arnt going to kill off...

Though i do wish the president was killed and the Vice president took office which would bleed into Captain America's "political thriller" of a sequel... And possibly usher in the return of Red Skull which would have been an awesome thing to do....

True. Unfair of me to accuse Disney, however

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I felt like Happy (considering everyone around him was incinerated?) and the President both should have died. Would have certainly raised the stakes and made Aldrich more itimidating

 

[Supermouse]

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I felt like Happy (considering everyone around him was incinerated?) and the President both should have died. Would have certainly raised the stakes and made Aldrich more itimidating

I kind of agree with you, but the way Rhodey

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Saved the president was totally awesome and I wouldn't give that up for a downer president killing.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

True. Unfair of me to accuse Disney, however

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I felt like Happy (considering everyone around him was incinerated?) and the President both should have died. Would have certainly raised the stakes and made Aldrich more itimidating

Im kinda glad they saved Happy though... They probably would have gotten more flack for killing off the director of the first two films. Some would have seen it as an insult....

Also keep in mind with coulson and shield gone... The only supporting cast Tony has is Happy, Rhodey and Pepper

 

[dpucane]

Im kinda glad they saved Happy though... They probably would have gotten more flack for killing off the director of the first two films. Some would have seen it as an insult....

Also keep in mind with coulson and shield gone... The only supporting cast Tony has is Happy, Rhodey and Pepper

I'm indifferent to whether or not he lives, it's just puzzling that everyone in the theater literally turned to dust except he and the Extremified Savin

 

[Repulsor Blast]

heaps of ppl died in the movie. i don't get how you can say otherwise, especially when the avengers showed literally no one carking it in the battle for new york.

[BLACKOUT] all the explosion victims, numerous extremis soldiers, all the people on air force one who were shot by savin in that awesome "homage" to robocop, REBECCA HALL's character, KILLIAN!, the thugs/henchmen in the mansion [/BLACKOUT]

seriously, if you didn't like the movie then sucks for you, but don't bring up inaccuracies to back said opinion up.

 

[Repulsor Blast]

I'm indifferent to whether or not he lives, it's just puzzling that everyone in the theater literally turned to dust except he and the Extremified Savin

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he was shielded from the blast via the hot dog stand or whatever it was. the movie explained how he survived visually.

 

[dpucane]

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he was shielded from the blast via the hot dog stand or whatever it was. the movie explained how he survived visually.

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a hot dog stand saved him from a blast at more than half the temperature of the sun?

 

[747]

Some people say IM3 is too comedic. But the things is that while also being the most comedic IM movie, it's also the most character driven and dramatically effective imo. Which is quite a feat to pull off without making it feel jarring.

Anothet thing regarding the twist, while I love it, I do think it's a bit too early placed and makes things a bit unbalanced plot wise. It would have worked even better if we had gotten more pre-twist Mandarin. Now quite a bit of the nerve is taken away a bit too early. Now the movie works up some new nerve in the end, but it has to work for it.

 

[divan]

Some people say IM3 is too comedic. But the things is that while also being the most comedic IM movie, it's also the most character driven and dramatically effective imo. Which is quite a feat to pull off without making it feel jarring.

I thought the comedy was in line with what we know about Stark. The guy is suffering but he's not going to show his feelings, comedy works as a shield for him, so he doesn't have to face the (sad) reality around him.

 

[Repulsor Blast]

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a hot dog stand saved him from a blast at more than half the temperature of the sun?

didnt say it was a scientifically accurate explanation, just an explanation.

if you want to get technical, the whole theatre should have been turned to ash

plus if the extremis guys burn that hot then their hair and or clothes should burn off them.

there's some things you have to forgive in movies, perfect adherence to the laws of science being one of them

 

[Incredible Hans]

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a hot dog stand saved him from a blast at more than half the temperature of the sun?

The hot dog stand was made by the same company that made the refrigerator in Indiana Jones IV

 

[Repulsor Blast]

I thought the comedy was in line with what we know about Stark. The guy is suffering but he's not going to show his feelings, comedy works as a shield for him, so he doesn't have to face the (sad) reality around him.

yep, exactly.

i think people might think the humour is out of place because they themselves wouldnt react with a joke as frequently as tony did in serious and dark situations.

watching it a 2nd time, i found the humour to be less intrusive; not that it irked me much at all the first time (i quickly remembered that's just tony's character)