Iron Man 3 Official rate & review IRON MAN 3 thread!

[jedi42]

Just saw it in IMAX 3-D looked great. I'd give it a solid B-, too many remote controlled Iron Men or my taste. It was definitely funny, almost too funny. The whole Mandarin thing was also a mess. Waaaaay better than IM2.

 

[Xeno]

Watched it a third time this past week, and while the flaws are a little more apparent it's still my favorite MCU film thus far, I also saw Star Trek...and it's clear it's going to take a huge bite out of anything IM3 earns from now on.

It's looking less likely that STD will affect Iron Man Three's earnings in the international market. Star Trek has never been popular overseas and that trend continues. Abrams' film is already underperforming in Asia & Australia and looks set to do the same in most markets. In other words, STD is doing the usual Trek belly-flop OS and will rely on its US gross to bolster it. But its legs will be broken in its second weekend by Fast & Furious 6 and The Hangover 3, plus a tug from Epic on the side.

Meanwhile, IM3 will be cruising past $1B WW/$300M DOM by the time STD even opens here. Now worries for The Golden Avenger on that front.

 

[BatLobster]

Just saw it in IMAX 3-D looked great. I'd give it a solid B-, too many remote controlled Iron Men or my taste. It was definitely funny, almost too funny. The whole Mandarin thing was also a mess. Waaaaay better than IM2.

I think that about sums up my feelings. A huge step up from Iron Man 2, but I didn't quite enjoy this one in the way I was hoping to mainly because they pushed the humor a bit too far for my tastes. Like, I had fun while I was watching it but couldn't help but feel that something was missing after it was over. I didn't mind the Mandarin twist or Killian being the real Mandarin, but in my estimation the comedy undercut the drama big time when it came to that twist. I feel there were less jokey ways to have pulled off that twist. I know the Iron Man films very much deal with the action-comedy genre, but this one seemed to lean towards comedy-action. Even though I do think there were lots of great laughs and the action was amazing. In the end it was a unique cocktail that didn't quite go down 100% right with me.

Still, I enjoyed it quite a bit and will probably buy it on Blu-ray.

Also, thought this was interesting. At an IM3 screening, Shane Black gave upset fans the floor to voice their criticisms and had an open discussion with them. Sorry if it's been posted already:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2013/05/09/shane-black-tells-angry-iron-man-fans-lets-talk-about-it/

 

[Victarion]

Much as I disliked Black's decision, I have to commend him for letting the fans' voices be heard like that.

 

[the dmg]

Just came back from my first viewing. I thought it was a great film.

 

[Lightsplasher]

Also, thought this was interesting. At an IM3 screening, Shane Black gave upset fans the floor to voice their criticisms and had an open discussion with them. Sorry if it's been posted already:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2013/05/09/shane-black-tells-angry-iron-man-fans-lets-talk-about-it/

It's great to have done that . At least , he explained why he couldn't change the origins of The Mandarin and why he chose that twist .

And IMO they are totally right with this :

It’s a shame every fan making outrageous accusations about the film and claiming hyperbolic “injury” to the source material and themselves etc couldn’t have been there to engage in this back and forth with Shane Black. It was great to see, and would go a long way toward helping other fans understand and appreciate the brilliance of what he accomplished in Iron Man 3.

PS : I didn't quote that to start a flame-war .

 

[Ultra Nolanite]

But if you need an open discussion to make people understand how brilliant your film is, doesn't that mean you...I dunno kinda failed ?

It's like the brilliance doesn't speak for itself then.

I doubt anything Shane Black can say can change the minds of those who simply don't perceive it as brilliant. If you don't like it you don't like it.

 

[cherokeesam]

Then go ahead and report me to a mod if you're so sure that I'm trolling instead of giving yet another juvenile response.

Okay.

I'm going to just leave this here, too: Grant Morrison weighs in on the Mandarin Twist uproar.

on the twist of "The Mandarin" in Iron Man 3? He's not critical at all.

In Australia, Aboriginal artists, every generation goes in and repaints the cave paintings. And they all tell the same stories over generations. And that's what we do. The human species tells the same stories over and over again. Stories of heroes and villains. And I think we have to update them for each new generation. "Any fans who cling on to maybe a version of something they read when they were children are really just hanging on to a past. The world's moved on. There's new children. They want their version of it. So I think it's very important to freshen these things up and to update them and to move them forward and to look at them in the context of all the things we're interested in now."

 

[Adamantium]

I love this movie and I can't wait to see it again! The only thing I was disappointed in was that neither of the trailers music arrangements were in the movie.

 

[Repulsor Blast]

i see myself watching iron man 3 every christmas from now on

 

[JangoNate]

i see myself watching iron man 3 every christmas from now on

That's what the wife said to me. "We have a new Christmas movie." The sad thing is that I'm so weird with my trilogies and sagas. I always have to watch everything in order. That goes for Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Indiana Jones, and Marvel Universe (Phase 1, 2, etc.). As I'm writing this I know that I'm on Star Wars A New Hope, Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, Return of the King, and The Incredible Hulk.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

Great movie. On par with 1 imo. No problem with that thing some people had a problem with. I thought Kingsley nailed every aspect. The small miracle of a boy sidekick that isnt annoying. The final set piece was a blast, top three MCU scenes so far. Rebecca hall didn't have much to do, and I think Guy Pearce could have let loose a tad bit more, but overall this one might be my 2nd fave after Avengers. After 2nd viewing, I can decide if its merely on par with IM1 or if it surpasses.

Congrats to Shane Black and RDJ for making THEIR movie. Not a small feat, given the constraints and expectations.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Okay.

I'm going to just leave this here, too: Grant Morrison weighs in on the Mandarin Twist uproar.

Nice one.

 

[BatLobster]

But if you need an open discussion to make people understand how brilliant your film is, doesn't that mean you...I dunno kinda failed ?

It's like the brilliance doesn't speak for itself then.

I doubt anything Shane Black can say can change the minds of those who simply don't perceive it as brilliant. If you don't like it you don't like it.

I agree, I just think it's cool that Black was gracious about it with fans.

 

[Sharkboy]

It's looking less likely that STD will affect Iron Man Three's earnings in the international market. Star Trek has never been popular overseas and that trend continues. Abrams' film is already underperforming in Asia & Australia and looks set to do the same in most markets. In other words, STD is doing the usual Trek belly-flop OS and will rely on its US gross to bolster it. But its legs will be broken in its second weekend by Fast & Furious 6 and The Hangover 3, plus a tug from Epic on the side.

Meanwhile, IM3 will be cruising past $1B WW/$300M DOM by the time STD even opens here. Now worries for The Golden Avenger on that front.

Well that sucks...cus it's a better film.

 

[Fenrir]

A couple of posters asked me a few days ago about which reviewers compared Kingsley's Mandarin to Heath Ledger's Joker...

"Ben Kingsley is utterly fantastic as The Mandarin, and I'm going to have to steal David Edwards' brilliant summary when I say that he's probably the best villain since Heath Ledger's Joker."
http://momentumpublishing.co.uk/film-review-iron-man-3/

"The Mandarin! Ben Kingsely’s bad guy portrayal is up there with Heath Ledger’s Joker!"
http://www.kzone.com.au/big-screen/bonusreviews/iron-man-3

"He’s perfectly written and portrayed and is one of the best superhero villains since Heath Ledger’s turn as The Joker but for completely different reasons."
http://www.columbusunderground.com/film-review-iron-man-3-nh1

"But let me tell you, he’s brilliant. His turn as this villain is up there performance-wise with Heath Ledger’s turn as The Joker. He is that iconic."
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/62077

There were a couple more. Well, in their defense you can at least say that Kingsley's Mandarin has indeed become something iconic, though for all the wrong reasons...

 

[Sharkboy]

A couple of posters asked me a few days ago about which reviewers compared Kingsley's Mandarin to Heath Ledger's Joker...

"Ben Kingsley is utterly fantastic as The Mandarin, and I'm going to have to steal David Edwards' brilliant summary when I say that he's probably the best villain since Heath Ledger's Joker."
http://momentumpublishing.co.uk/film-review-iron-man-3/

"The Mandarin! Ben Kingsely’s bad guy portrayal is up there with Heath Ledger’s Joker!"
http://www.kzone.com.au/big-screen/bonusreviews/iron-man-3

"He’s perfectly written and portrayed and is one of the best superhero villains since Heath Ledger’s turn as The Joker but for completely different reasons."
http://www.columbusunderground.com/film-review-iron-man-3-nh1

"But let me tell you, he’s brilliant. His turn as this villain is up there performance-wise with Heath Ledger’s turn as The Joker. He is that iconic."
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/62077

There were a couple more. Well, in their defense you can at least say that Kingsley's Mandarin has indeed become something iconic, though for all the wrong reasons...

If it were the wrong reasons then the reaction would be wholly negative, I think the term you are looking for is "unexpected reasons"

 

[conan69]

Very "eh" for me. I did like the scene where Starks home is destroyed though.



Iron Man ......8/10
Iron Man 2....6/10
Iron Man 3....6/10

Overall a disappointing trilogy for such a great character.

 

[Sharkboy]

But if you need an open discussion to make people understand how brilliant your film is, doesn't that mean you...I dunno kinda failed ?

It's like the brilliance doesn't speak for itself then.

I doubt anything Shane Black can say can change the minds of those who simply don't perceive it as brilliant. If you don't like it you don't like it.

If you fully understood what Black attempted to do and still didn't like it, then that is understandable, but it's kinda silly to belittle him for explaining his motives with the intent of clarification to fans so they could make the choice if they still like it with the knowledge of Black's intent or they are still frustrated with it.

Some of the best films ever made open a dialogue about author's intent, it's thematic qualities and subtext and such and such, they challenge conventions rather than generally simplify and pander in such a way that everyone can easily understand it first time around.

So yeah...if you knew what he was going for and you don't like it that's fine, but don't act as if he's just trying to convince people who disliked it to like it.

 

[Kelly]

Just saw the movie today.....I got emotional, which is not usually my normal thing in CBM's....but I did with this one, enjoyed it very much.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Kinglsey facade-Mandarin wasn't even around long enough to make the kind of impression Ledger's Joker did, IMHO.

 

[Xeno]

Well that sucks...cus it's a better film.

That's your opinion. Trek has simply never caught on in the OS market. Someone on another forum said that it's seen as more of a geeky thing, whereas Star Wars is viewed as being "cool". While STD will definitely better the first movie's $128M OS gross, it's not going to be a major earner. On the other hand, FF6 will do very well OS once it comes out, but that's not for a few more weeks.

 

[Sharkboy]

Kinglsey facade-Mandarin wasn't even around long enough to make the kind of impression Ledger's Joker did, IMHO.

No cbm villain has, it's just the hyperbolic statement reviewers love to make. They said it for Bardem's Silva in Skyfall, I'm sure they are mentioning it for Cumberbatch's Harrisson (even though it's a very good performance if i may say so)...heck I even heard some fools say it for Hiddleston's Loki (which baffles me to no end)

 

[Sharkboy]

That's your opinion.

Duh.

Trek has simply never caught on in the OS market. Someone on another forum said that it's seen as more of a geeky thing, whereas Star Wars is viewed as being "cool". While STD will definitely better the first movie's $128M OS gross, it's not going to be a major earner. On the other hand, FF6 will do very well OS once it comes out, but that's not for a few more weeks.

Yeah it's quite crappy especially considering how well recieved the first film was, I'm expecting a better outlook internationally this time around (but not spectacularly) I'm from the UK and I don't get it because a lot of my friends are die hard trekkers (I'm barely a casual) so I didn't quite get that it was mainly an american thing until 09 underperformed here.

 

[Indy Flash]

My family and I saw it today and it was great.