Sequels Official The Amazing Spider-Man Sequel Thread

[Godzilla2014]

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Just thinking that it would be cool to see a Goblin war.Hobgoblin would of just been a minor villain in the beginning of the movie.Also figured we would never see Hobgoblin if he wasn't in the movie with Green Goblin.

But introducing them both in the same film is just too much to put in a single film.

 

[I'm Venom]

I can't see Webb using Hobgoblin and Rhino before other popular Spider-Man villains such as Electro or Scorpion, and you can do lots of things with their powers.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Scorpion would be dull after using Lizard. It's a man in a green suit with a tail...what's so different about that than facing Lizard?

Rhino > Scorpion

Hobgoblin = Scorpion

 

[I'm Venom]

Scorpion is a very different character from Lizard, and his tail is more like one of Dr. Octopus' tentacles than Lizard's tail. He doesn't even look similar beyond the color.

 

[Venom'sDad]

I have to agree with Anno, as far as, the similarity, not that Scorpion is dull. Look, I this TAS2 will follow what Marc is establishing....Peter's analytical detective skills; so, I think characters like Chameleon, Crime Bosses(for the Gang War adaption), Norman(continuation) are prime candidates.

I personally would like to see Chameleon, Rhino, Crime Bosses, Norman....think I got a fantastic story how this could play out in the confines of what we will be introduce to from TAS(given what Norman/Oscorp role will be).

 

[I'm Venom]

Amazing Spider-Man 2

The movie begins at the Daily Bugle with J. Jonah Jameson making up headlines on Spider-Man. Introduce Eddie Brock (Jensen Ackles) as a journalist for the Bugle and develop his character so that he begins to hate Peter. There’s an imposter Spider-Man wreaking havoc on the city, doing crimes and letting criminals go, although he’s exposed and arrested. The imposter Spidey leads
JJJ to start waging war on the real Spidey and hire Mac Gargan as the subject of a process that endows him with the characteristics of a scorpion for the purpose of creating an agent capable
of defeating Spider-Man. Scorpion proves to be more than a match for the wall-crawler, but the treatment affects Gargan’s mind, driving him insane. He promptly turns on JJJ, but Spider-Man intervenes and manages to defeat Scorpion.

 

[GoldGoblin]

Don't see Scorpion being the next villain because he has a tail just like the Lizard.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Scorpion is a very different character from Lizard, and his tail is more like one of Dr. Octopus' tentacles than Lizard's tail. He doesn't even look similar beyond the color.

Agreed.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Scorpion is a very different character from Lizard, and his tail is more like one of Dr. Octopus' tentacles than Lizard's tail. He doesn't even look similar beyond the color.

It'll be as dull as having Green Goblin and then Hobgoblin in the very next installment. Dull and boring with the same "tricks".

We need a villain that is MUCH different. To me, if you put in Scorpion in the sequel, the comparisons will overflow the Hype! boards because it'll just feel like a more human Lizard because it's another villain with a tail. That's how everyone will see it, especially the general audience.

Amazing Spider-Man 2

The movie begins at the Daily Bugle with J. Jonah Jameson making up headlines on Spider-Man. Introduce Eddie Brock (Jensen Ackles) as a journalist for the Bugle and develop his character so that he begins to hate Peter. There’s an imposter Spider-Man wreaking havoc on the city, doing crimes and letting criminals go, although he’s exposed and arrested. The imposter Spidey leads
JJJ to start waging war on the real Spidey and hire Mac Gargan as the subject of a process that endows him with the characteristics of a scorpion for the purpose of creating an agent capable
of defeating Spider-Man. Scorpion proves to be more than a match for the wall-crawler, but the treatment affects Gargan’s mind, driving him insane. He promptly turns on JJJ, but Spider-Man intervenes and manages to defeat Scorpion.

I have to agree with Anno, as far as, the similarity, not that Scorpion is dull. Look, I this TAS2 will follow what Marc is establishing....Peter's analytical detective skills; so, I think characters like Chameleon, Crime Bosses(for the Gang War adaption), Norman(continuation) are prime candidates.

I personally would like to see Chameleon, Rhino, Crime Bosses, Norman....think I got a fantastic story how this could play out in the confines of what we will be introduce to from TAS(given what Norman/Oscorp role will be).

I like Scorpion as well, but it'll just be ridiculous for him to be a villain in the sequel right after we just saw a film with Lizard.

Don't see Scorpion being the next villain because he has a tail just like the Lizard.

 

[I'm Venom]

It'll be as dull as having Green Goblin and then Hobgoblin in the very next installment. Dull and boring with the same "tricks".

We need a villain that is MUCH different. To me, if you put in Scorpion in the sequel, the comparisons will overflow the Hype! boards because it'll just feel like a more human Lizard because it's another villain with a tail. That's how everyone will see it, especially the general audience.

But there would be no point to use Green Goblin and then Hobgoblin for a separate movie, unlike using Lizard and then Scorpion. Sure, the two goblins have identical powers, but Lizard can't cling to most surfaces and doesn't have a tail that has weapons, like Scorpion. If you put Scorpion in the sequel, there would be more people pleased to finally get Scorpion than there would be comparisons. As far as the general audience goes, I'm sure that they'd figure out there's a difference between one villain named Lizard and another named Scorpion. That would be like somebody with a pet lizard not wanting a pet scorpion because both creatures have tails, thus making out that they're too similar, which they aren't. Birds, cats, dogs, fish, horses, etc. all have tails too.

 

[Anno_Domini]

But there would be no point to use Green Goblin and then Hobgoblin for a separate movie, unlike using Lizard and then Scorpion. Sure, the two goblins have identical powers, but Lizard can't cling to most surfaces and doesn't have a tail that has weapons, like Scorpion. If you put Scorpion in the sequel, there would be more people pleased to finally get Scorpion than there would be comparisons. As far as the general audience goes, I'm sure that they'd figure out there's a difference between one villain named Lizard and another named Scorpion. That would be like somebody with a pet lizard not wanting a pet scorpion because both creatures have tails, thus making out that they're too similar, which they aren't. Birds, cats, dogs, fish, horses, etc. all have tails too.

Bringing in the Goblins is a great example. Scorpion may not exactly be an actual copy of the Lizard, but to use Scorpion in a sequel right after we've seen Lizard would just be in awful taste because it's still a villain with a tail in its essential. Sure, Scorpion can shoot acid from that tail, but it's still something we've seen in the form of the movie beforehand with a villain WITH A TAIL. That is why it's stupid, not what Scorpion is, but just for the fact that he's a villain with a tail which is what Spidey has faced before. If Scorpion shows up in like part three or four or whatever, then that's fine...but for to be in an installment right after Lizard makes it completely silly.

And you're totally misunderstanding my point if you think I meant the general audience wouldn't get that he's a scorpion and Connors was a lizard; that was not my point obviously. The GA isn't that stupid, but they will also think it's silly if Webb uses Scorpion as the villain for Amazing Spider-Man 2. Please, understand what I am getting at, which some of the posters above do, and don't bring in silly remarks as those last two sentences or so about other animals having tails too

 

[I'm Venom]

Bringing in the Goblins is a great example. Scorpion may not exactly be an actual copy of the Lizard, but to use Scorpion in a sequel right after we've seen Lizard would just be in awful taste because it's still a villain with a tail in its essential. Sure, Scorpion can shoot acid from that tail, but it's still something we've seen in the form of the movie beforehand with a villain WITH A TAIL. That is why it's stupid, not what Scorpion is, but just for the fact that he's a villain with a tail which is what Spidey has faced before. If Scorpion shows up in like part three or four or whatever, then that's fine...but for to be in an installment right after Lizard makes it completely silly.

And you're totally misunderstanding my point if you think I meant the general audience wouldn't get that he's a scorpion and Connors was a lizard; that was not my point obviously. The GA isn't that stupid, but they will also think it's silly if Webb uses Scorpion as the villain for Amazing Spider-Man 2. Please, understand what I am getting at, which some of the posters above do, and don't bring in silly remarks as those last two sentences or so about other animals having tails too

Black-suit Spider-Man and Venom are more similar than Lizard and Scorpion, yet you don't see people saying that Venom shouldn't be used because it's something we've seen before with the symbiote.

 

[GoldGoblin]

It's like having Venom as a villain in one movie,and then having Carnage as the villain in the next sequel.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Black-suit Spider-Man and Venom are more similar than Lizard and Scorpion, yet you don't see people saying that Venom shouldn't be used because it's something we've seen before with the symbiote.

Err...

It's like having Venom as a villain in one movie,and then having Carnage as the villain in the next sequel.

GoldGoblin is correct. The example of using Carnage in a film right after Venom is what I am saying. Using Venom is the natural progression from the symbiote in the first place, but Venom > Carnage, Green Goblin > Hobgoblin, Lizard > Scorpion, and those comparisons between the villains is what I am referring to. What you said, I'm Venom, is saying Venom shouldn't be used because of the Black-Suited Spider-Man, but without even using Venom, there is no reason to even use the symbiote.

 

[PSYLENTGuardian]

It just doesn't flow correctly. Say you've seen Spidey fight the Lizard. Strong humanoid villain with a tail. Fight scenes totally knock it out of the park and all the tension and the suspense is there.

Then you have Spidey fight another strong humanoid villain with a tail. Nobody wants to see this again, and if they did, all the suspense that you get with that villain is gone because it's already been done before. It's just not worth it.

You need different villains with different powers to create that escalation; to up the ante and raise the stakes against Spider-Man.

 

[I'm Venom]

GoldGoblin is correct. The example of using Carnage in a film right after Venom is what I am saying. Using Venom is the natural progression from the symbiote in the first place, but Venom > Carnage, Green Goblin > Hobgoblin, Lizard > Scorpion, and those comparisons between the villains is what I am referring to. What you said, I'm Venom, is saying Venom shouldn't be used because of the Black-Suited Spider-Man, but without even using Venom, there is no reason to even use the symbiote.

I totally understand Green Goblin > Hobgoblin and Venom > Carnage, but those villains are related, unlike Lizard and Scorpion. You can't say Lizard > Scorpion or vice versa, because they aren't related in any way. Your whole arguement for not wanting Scorpion in the sequel because both he and Lizard have tails is just lame. Connors and Gargan are completely different characters; Connors isn't even a villain, whereas Gargan is nearly one before becoming Scorpion. With Lizard, you can have battles in the sewers, which wouldn't make sense with Scorpion, but Scorpion can cling to most surfaces, unlike Lizard, so that opens potential for different kinds of battles between Scorpion and Spider-Man that Lizard couldn't provide, such as climbing buildings and whatnot.

 

[Anno_Domini]

I totally understand Green Goblin > Hobgoblin and Venom > Carnage, but those villains are related, unlike Lizard and Scorpion. You can't say Lizard > Scorpion or vice versa, because they aren't related in any way. Your whole arguement for not wanting Scorpion in the sequel because both he and Lizard have tails is just lame. Connors and Gargan are completely different characters; Connors isn't even a villain, whereas Gargan is nearly one before becoming Scorpion. With Lizard, you can have battles in the sewers, which wouldn't make sense with Scorpion, but Scorpion can cling to most surfaces, unlike Lizard, so that opens potential for different kinds of battles between Scorpion and Spider-Man that Lizard couldn't provide, such as climbing buildings and whatnot.

You say my argument is "lame", but....go up and count how many people are agreeing with my point right now. That is all, because I can't say anymore because you're still sounding stubborn with not getting the point I am trying to make. I have no way said Lizard and Scorpion are related, or the general audience will not understand the difference between a lizard and a scorpion, two little arguments on your side that surpasses my "lame" argument and not understanding that the villains are essentially the same with the same look, and although they don't have the same identity as the Goblins and symbiote characters, they don't possess variety that the sequel of Amazing Spider-Man should receive; it doesn't posses any other challenge except for maybe the occasional acid spill.

 

[PSYLENTGuardian]

I totally understand Green Goblin > Hobgoblin and Venom > Carnage, but those villains are related, unlike Lizard and Scorpion. You can't say Lizard > Scorpion or vice versa, because they aren't related in any way. Your whole arguement for not wanting Scorpion in the sequel because both he and Lizard have tails is just lame. Connors and Gargan are completely different characters; Connors isn't even a villain, whereas Gargan is nearly one before becoming Scorpion. With Lizard, you can have battles in the sewers, which wouldn't make sense with Scorpion, but Scorpion can cling to most surfaces, unlike Lizard, so that opens potential for different kinds of battles between Scorpion and Spider-Man that Lizard couldn't provide, such as climbing buildings and whatnot.

You did not pay attention to my earlier post:

It just doesn't flow correctly. Say you've seen Spidey fight the Lizard. Strong humanoid villain with a tail. Fight scenes totally knock it out of the park and all the tension and the suspense is there.

Then you have Spidey fight another strong humanoid villain with a tail. Nobody wants to see this again, and if they did, all the suspense that you get with that villain is gone because it's already been done before. It's just not worth it.

You need different villains with different powers to create that escalation; to up the ante and raise the stakes against Spider-Man.

It's about more than just a tail.

 

[SpideyFan866]

You did not pay attention to my earlier post:



It's about more than just a tail.

Agreed. I think the same thing. If they do use scorpion, they need to develop a fighting style thats not as similar as the lizards or just have him as a secondary villain.

 

[I'm Venom]

You say my argument is "lame", but....go up and count how many people are agreeing with my point right now. That is all, because I can't say anymore because you're still sounding stubborn with not getting the point I am trying to make. I have no way said Lizard and Scorpion are related, or the general audience will not understand the difference between a lizard and a scorpion, two little arguments on your side that surpasses my "lame" argument and not understanding that the villains are essentially the same with the same look, and although they don't have the same identity as the Goblins and symbiote characters, they don't possess variety that the sequel of Amazing Spider-Man should receive; it doesn't posses any other challenge except for maybe the occasional acid spill.

Easy, no reason to whine. I get the point you're trying to make, but saying Scorpion shouldn't be in the sequel solely based on the observation that both he and Lizard have tails is just silly.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Easy, no reason to whine. I get the point you're trying to make, but saying Scorpion shouldn't be in the sequel solely based on the observation that both he and Lizard have tails is just silly.

Again, right over your head.

 

[Venom'sDad]

I don't think we have to worry about seeing Scorpion in the next film any how. I have some suspensions who I think may be, but Scorpion is not one.

 

[GoldGoblin]

The Amazing Spider-Man 2: [BLACKOUT]R.H.I.N.O./[/BLACKOUT][BLACKOUT]ELECTRO[/BLACKOUT]

-Have mob boss Silvermane say to Norman Osborn that when spidey was occupied with the Lizard,that spidey didn't get in his way.So now the Lizard is gone,spidey is ruining his business again.

-Silvermane wants Norman to create a super villain to keep spidey busy again.

-Osborn uses Oscorp tech (R.H.I.N.O.) to keep spidey busy.

-When spidey defeates the R.H.I.N.O.,Silvermane wants Osborn to create another supervillain,but a more powerful one.

-Norman Osborn creates Electro (pure energy).

 

[Anno_Domini]

I'm not really into that story itself, but I would LOVE to see both villains in the reboot series.

 

[GoldGoblin]

The Amazing Spider-Man 3: [BLACKOUT]Green Goblin[/BLACKOUT]

-Silvermane wants Norman Osborn to create another super villain,but Norman Osborn refuses this time.Osborn says if he keeps creating super villains,that eventually Oscorp will be blamed and he would go to jail.

-Silvermane threatens Osborn.Osborn tells Silvermane that he will create another super villain for him.

-Norman Osborn becomes the Green Goblin,shows up at a restaurant Silvermane is in and attacks Silvermane.Spidey shows up and stops the Green Goblin from killing Silvermane.

-Green Goblin wants to kill spidey now for getting in the way.

-Silvermane seeks revenge on Osborn for sending the Green Goblin to kill him.

-Peter is with Harry downtown walking on the sidewalk when Silvermane's assaain (Shocker) shows up and tries to kill Harry.Peter and Harry duck behind a parked car to shield themselves from the Shocker.When the cops show up and distracts Shocker,Peter suits up as spidey and takes on Shocker.

-Spidey defeats Shocker and Shocker goes to jail.

-Silvermane heads to Oscorp to kill Norman Osborn.

-In Norman Osborn's office,Silvermane shoots Norman Osborn and when Silvermane walks away we hear the Green Goblin's voice.Silvermane turns around and we see Norman Osborn rip open his shirt revealing his Green Goblin body armor and he pulls out a pumpkin bomb out of his satchel.

-Norman Osborn's office gets blown up as Silvermane gets blown up with a pumpkin bomb.

-All the Oscorp employees are staring up at the scene as the Green Goblin comes flying out of the rubble.

-Peter is at Oscorp visiting Gwen and quickly takes off to change into his costume.

-Green Goblin fights spidey.

-Green Goblin kills Gwen to torture spidey before he kills him.

-Green Goblin is killed in the final battle.