Sequels What villains...

[Anno_Domini]

...would be used for sequels in Webb's series(or just trilogy)?

Now, mind you, there are other threads to speak on the villains, but I had a thought earlier that OsCorp may play a huge part in Webb's series and I was thinking that OsCorp could be the "mother" to create all of Spidey's villains(in Webb's series obviously)...I mean, we'll be having Dr. Connors in the reboot, who will work at OsCorp and become the Lizard, and then Van Atter will supposedly be involved in some way, and as we all should know, he's the Proto-Goblin in the comics, so, let me ask...who do you think will be the future villains that could be created by OsCorp in some way?

Doc Ock could very well be a contender and have his accident be very similar to the Ultimate Comics.

Norman Osborn is an obvious thought.

Electro could be some sort of guinea pig, as well as Sandman and Hydro-Man for that matter...in The Amazing Spider-Man, I think OsCorp could be testing animals, but that could become just one part of something bigger where they also could be working with different types of elements.

The Spot?

How about Scorpion? Given a different story and being tested by OsCorp instead of JJJ wanting to use him.

Morbius? Molten Man?

 

[Godzilla2014]

...would be used for sequels in Webb's series(or just trilogy)?

Now, mind you, there are other threads to speak on the villains, but I had a thought earlier that OsCorp may play a huge part in Webb's series and I was thinking that OsCorp could be the "mother" to create all of Spidey's villains(in Webb's series obviously)...I mean, we'll be having Dr. Connors in the reboot, who will work at OsCorp and become the Lizard, and then Van Atter will supposedly be involved in some way, and as we all should know, he's the Proto-Goblin in the comics, so, let me ask...who do you think will be the future villains that could be created by OsCorp in some way?

Doc Ock could very well be a contender and have his accident be very similar to the Ultimate Comics.

Norman Osborn is an obvious thought.

Electro could be some sort of guinea pig, as well as Sandman and Hydro-Man for that matter...in The Amazing Spider-Man, I think OsCorp could be testing animals, but that could become just one part of something bigger where they also could be working with different types of elements.

The Spot?

How about Scorpion? Given a different story and being tested by OsCorp instead of JJJ wanting to use him.

Morbius? Molten Man?

I definitely think that Green Goblin is going to be in the sequel. Doctor Octopus might be in either in the second or third. If you put Green Goblin and Doctor Octopus in a single film, you would get the Spider-Man rogues' gallery equivalent of using the Joker & Two-Face in The Dark Knight.

 

[Venom75]

I've stated this before,but I really don't see a need for Doc Ock to be in this new series because I think Molina played him so perfectly in Spider-man 2. Goblin was alright in the original,but he could be done better. Plus,he's Spidey's greatest enemy and Norman Osborn is so intrenched in Spider-man lore,so I can't see him being left out. Venom,is obviously my favorite and he's also Spidey's most popular villain. He was also screwed over in part 3. I think he should be in the series again,but done right...along with a darker and more complex symbiote storyline. The Lizard will obviously be in the reboot,but other villains I'd like to see are Scorpion,Black Cat and Mysterio. Here's what I'd love to see...

The Amazing Spider-man: The Lizard
part 2: Green Goblin and the death of Gwen Stacy
part 3: The Black Cat,a villain created by Jameson or Mob and Spidey gets the symbiote
part 4: Venom

 

[Anno_Domini]

I definitely think that Green Goblin is going to be in the sequel. Doctor Octopus might be in either in the second or third. If you put Green Goblin and Doctor Octopus in a single film, you would get the Spider-Man rogues' gallery equivalent of using the Joker & Two-Face in The Dark Knight.

For some reason, as much as I would love that, it would just feel like TAS-M is copying TDK. Plus, I think it's much more possible that we'll see Green Goblin more than Doc Ock. Dafoe was a great GG, but Raimi messed up his character so much as for Molina's Doc Ock, that performance is still stuck in our heads and it'll most likely never be outdone for a while.

The Amazing Spider-man: The Lizard
part 2: Green Goblin and the death of Gwen Stacy
part 3: The Black Cat,a villain created by Jameson or Mob and Spidey gets the symbiote
part 4: Venom

See, I was thinking, IF we do see the cancer suit version of Venom, I wouldn't mind us getting a secondary villain in the form of Electro, as in, having a battle with black-suited Spider-Man vs Electro and that's how Peter learns about the black suit's weakness of electricity. The suit could have been a long-lost project from OsCorp that Peter stumbles upon and Electro could also be a secret project from OsCorp as well.

As much as I hate to say this as well, but...I kinda think we could be seeing Morbius in this series, imo. I hate the character, but there are some similarities to Peter that Morbius possess and one of them could be how, as Peter was bitten on the neck, that could have some contrast to how Morbius was bitten by a vampire bat...on the neck, albeit, a mutated or genetically-enhanced vampire bat.

 

[I'm Venom]

Here’s what I’d love to see…

Amazing Spider-Man: Lizard
Amazing Spider-Man 2: Scorpion created by Jameson
Amazing Spider-Man 3: Green Goblin, Spider-Man gets the symbiote, & the death of Gwen Stacy
Amazing Spider-Man 4: Venom

 

[GoldGoblin]

Have Alistair Smythe use his spider slayers (robotic suits,like Iron Man) to be a hitman.JJJ hires Smythe to kill spidey.Smythe uses his spider slayer suit known as the Scorpion to do it.During the battle Smythe's Scorpion spider slayer suit is badly damaged,so Smythe retreats.But spidey slipped a spider tracer onto the spider slayer suit.

When Smythe gets out of the Scorpion spider slayer suit,Smythe hears his alarm go off.When Smythe looks at the monitors and sees spidey on the screen,Smythe quickly runs over to another one of his spider slayers suits known as the Rhino.When spidey shows up to where his spider tracer is,spidey faces the Rhino.

After Smythe is defeated for the second time,Smythe is taken to prison.When Smythe breaks out of prison,Smythe uses a spider slayer suit that looks like spider-man to frame spidey for crimes that spidey hasn't done.

 

[Godzilla2014]

I've stated this before,but I really don't see a need for Doc Ock to be in this new series because I think Molina played him so perfectly in Spider-man 2. Goblin was alright in the original,but he could be done better. Plus,he's Spidey's greatest enemy and Norman Osborn is so intrenched in Spider-man lore,so I can't see him being left out. Venom,is obviously my favorite and he's also Spidey's most popular villain. He was also screwed over in part 3. I think he should be in the series again,but done right...along with a darker and more complex symbiote storyline. The Lizard will obviously be in the reboot,but other villains I'd like to see are Scorpion,Black Cat and Mysterio. Here's what I'd love to see...

The Amazing Spider-man: The Lizard
part 2: Green Goblin and the death of Gwen Stacy
part 3: The Black Cat,a villain created by Jameson or Mob and Spidey gets the symbiote
part 4: Venom

Personally, I think that Doctor Octopus is, in terms of rogues gallery prominence, is the Spider-Man equivalent to Two-Face. He should be in the next series.

For some reason, as much as I would love that, it would just feel like TAS-M is copying TDK. Plus, I think it's much more possible that we'll see Green Goblin more than Doc Ock. Dafoe was a great GG, but Raimi messed up his character so much as for Molina's Doc Ock, that performance is still stuck in our heads and it'll most likely never be outdone for a while.

Putting Green Goblin and Doctor Octopus in the same movie would free up the third for some other villain. Doc Ock should be in this series (and every Spider-Man film series), because he is Spider-Man's second best villain. A series without him would be like a Batman series without Two-Face, just as a Spider-Man series without the Green Goblin would be like a Batman series without the Joker.

See, I was thinking, IF we do see the cancer suit version of Venom, I wouldn't mind us getting a secondary villain in the form of Electro, as in, having a battle with black-suited Spider-Man vs Electro and that's how Peter learns about the black suit's weakness of electricity. The suit could have been a long-lost project from OsCorp that Peter stumbles upon and Electro could also be a secret project from OsCorp as well.

As much as I hate to say this as well, but...I kinda think we could be seeing Morbius in this series, imo. I hate the character, but there are some similarities to Peter that Morbius possess and one of them could be how, as Peter was bitten on the neck, that could have some contrast to how Morbius was bitten by a vampire bat...on the neck, albeit, a mutated or genetically-enhanced vampire bat.

I agree.

 

[Venom75]

Well,the SSM cartoon did alot of cool things and one of the things I'd like to see used in the film series is the creation of villains by the Kingpin or some other crime syndicate. That way,the producers wouldn't have to keep coming up with these bizarre ways these criminals got their powers.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Well,the SSM cartoon did alot of cool things and one of the things I'd like to see used in the film series is the creation of villains by the Kingpin or some other crime syndicate. That way,the producers wouldn't have to keep coming up with these bizarre ways these criminals got their powers.

That might be interesting. I think since Sony doesn't have the rights to use Kingpin (Fox got them with the Daredevil rights, though Sony presumably did have the rights to Kingpin back when they had the rights to Daredevil), they could use Norman Osborn/Green Goblin to do the same thing.

 

[Venom75]

That might be interesting. I think since Sony doesn't have the rights to use Kingpin (Fox got them with the Daredevil rights, though Sony presumably did have the rights to Kingpin back when they had the rights to Daredevil), they could use Norman Osborn/Green Goblin to do the same thing.

That would be better,I think. Having Norman create all these villains. Cool idea!

 

[jonathancrane]

If they would put in Mysterio, Shocker, or the Hobgoblin (and not that crappy helmet tease in S3,) I could die a happy fan boy. Now, if they put in the Rhino, I would die laughing. Seriously.

 

[Godzilla2014]

That would be better,I think. Having Norman create all these villains. Cool idea!

Thanks!

 

[Anno_Domini]

they could use Norman Osborn/Green Goblin to do the same thing.

As my first post said, I think OsCorp could play a huge factor in Webb's Spidey series in that they could be the creator of the villains, or at least most of them(I don't see in any way OsCorp could "create" Mysterio or Chameleon, lol).

Venom, Electro, Sandman, Hydro-Man, Molten Man, Morbius, Ultimate version of Kraven, Proto-Goblin, Hobgoblin, Scorpion....all could be created by one single company, OsCorp.

 

[Godzilla2014]

That would be better,I think. Having Norman create all these villains. Cool idea!

As my first post said, I think OsCorp could play a huge factor in Webb's Spidey series in that they could be the creator of the villains, or at least most of them(I don't see in any way OsCorp could "create" Mysterio or Chameleon, lol).

Venom, Electro, Sandman, Hydro-Man, Molten Man, Morbius, Ultimate version of Kraven, Proto-Goblin, Hobgoblin, Scorpion....all could be created by one single company, OsCorp.

Good ideas. I was thinking that maybe OsCorp even funds the research of Dr. Otto Octavius and Dr. Curt Conners.

 

[I'm Venom]

Venom, Electro, Sandman, Hydro-Man, Molten Man, Morbius, Ultimate version of Kraven, Proto-Goblin, Hobgoblin, Scorpion....all could be created by one single company, OsCorp.

To have all the villains come from Oscorp would be foolish.

 

[Godzilla2014]

To have all the villains come from Oscorp would be foolish.

You could also have OsCorp's competitors create some of the villains as well.

 

[I'm Venom]

You could also have OsCorp's competitors create some of the villains as well.

You could, but I won't agree that's the best way to go.

 

[Spiderine]

I definitely think that Green Goblin is going to be in the sequel. Doctor Octopus might be in either in the second or third. If you put Green Goblin and Doctor Octopus in a single film, you would get the Spider-Man rogues' gallery equivalent of using the Joker & Two-Face in The Dark Knight.

GG and Doc Ock should never be in the same film together as villains. Huge waste and mistake.

 

[Godzilla2014]

GG and Doc Ock should never be in the same film together as villains. Huge waste and mistake.

Why? Was putting Joker and Two Face in The Dark Knight as villains a huge waste and mistake?

 

[Mistah K88]

Why? Was putting Joker and Two Face in The Dark Knight as villains a huge waste and mistake?

Kinda...we didn't really get a lot of Two-Face action before he died. Ock and Gobby are too big by themselves to share screentime with each other. They could share screentime with lesser villains, sure, but if they MUST have both together I would want them to have one be the main focus of one movie and save a majority of the other for a sequel. Like if they focus on Ock first, they could have Gobby just as a sideplot with him trying to rule New York's underworld...the next movie will deal with the whole unmasking/identity feud between Norman and Peter...but we'll see

That might be interesting. I think since Sony doesn't have the rights to use Kingpin (Fox got them with the Daredevil rights, though Sony presumably did have the rights to Kingpin back when they had the rights to Daredevil), they could use Norman Osborn/Green Goblin to do the same thing.

I'm unsure of having Norman create villains just because...We'd need to have a reason for Norman to do it. The point of creating supervillains in SSM was not even to kill Spider-Man but simply to distract him while normal crooks commit crimes undisturbed by the webslinger (which was f'n brilliant might I add). I don't know if they'll even waste their time making Gobby's identity a secret, so they could do that for the same if they choose to have Norman Osborn try to become a mob boss as the Green Goblin.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Two-Face didn't need "a lot of action" because, in Nolan's version, he was never a true villain and he only wanted revenge from the death of Rachel and that was it.

 

[Spiderine]

Why? Was putting Joker and Two Face in The Dark Knight as villains a huge waste and mistake?

That depends on how one's perception of the usage of Two Face was in TDK. Some fans of Two Face were not satisfied and wanted more. And consider those villains vastly different anyways when compared to two villains who will provide you with spectacular battle scenes with Spidey. Seems to me one or the other would be sacrificed or upstaged by the other. That's the problem I have.

 

[GoldGoblin]

SM2: Hydro-Man/Electro

The movie opens with spidey fighting Hydro-Man.After Hydro-Man is defeated and taken to prison,a scene at Oscorp takes place.Norman Osborn is walking down a hallway talking with a man named Dmitri Smerdyakov.

Dmitri Smerdyakov is angry telling Osborn that spidey has defeated Hydro-Man,the villain that Osborn had created for Dmitri Smerdyakov to kill spidey.Osborn tells Dmitri Smerdyakov to calm down,that he is gonna create a better villain for him to take care of his spidey problem.

Osborn opens a door and Osborn and Dmitri Smerdyakov walk into a room.In the room a scientist named Otto Octavius is sitting at a computer and a man named Max Dillion is strapped to a table on the far side of the room.

Osborn asks Otto if he is ready to get started,Otto says yes Mr.Osborn.Otto gets up and walks over to a device that he straps himself in and uses the tentacles to perform the procedure.

This time Otto uses more power to create this villain and Otto gets electrocuted when he creates Electro.Electro is the main villain.

Otto is knocked out and the tentacles are fused to his body.

Spidey faces Electro through out the movie.When Electro is defeated at the end of the movie,Electro is taken to prison.

Last scene of the movie is Otto waking up in a room lying on a bed and Osborn says,Otto you have created a villain that will kill spidey this time.Otto says,Electro killed spidey?Osborn says,no Otttto says,I don't understand.Osborn pulls the sheets off of Otto and you see the tentacles moving around.

Osborn says,do you understand now?
Doc Ock would then be the main villain in the next movie.

 

[GoldGoblin]

SM3: Scorpion/Rhino/Doc Ock

The movie opens with Dmitri Smerdyakov talking with a man named Alaistair Smythe.Dmitri Smerdyakov is telling Smythe that he has tried having someone else kill spidey,but they couldn't do it.

Smythe says,I will,for the right price that is.

Alaistair Smythe uses his spider slayers (robotic suits that Smythe is inside of,like Iron Man) to be a hitman.Smythe uses his spider slayer suit known as the Scorpion to do it.During the battle Smythe's Scorpion spider slayer suit is badly damaged,so Smythe retreats.But spidey slipped a spider tracer onto the spider slayer suit.

When Smythe gets to his place and he gets out of the Scorpion spider slayer suit,Smythe hears his alarm go off.When Smythe looks at the monitors and sees spidey on the screen,Smythe quickly runs over to another one of his spider slayer suits known as the Rhino.When spidey shows up to where his spider tracer is,spidey faces the Rhino.

Smythe is defeated and is taken to prison (all of those scenes with Smythe takes a total of 20 minutes,5 minutes talking with Fisk and 15 minutes fighting with spidey).

Now spidey faces Doc Ock who is the main villain in this movie.

 

[GoldGoblin]

SM4: Chameleon/Kraven

The movie opens in a museum as we see spidey stealing a valuable artifact.The alarms go off as security guards are shooting at spidey as spidey takes them out.

On the rooftop spidey runs ito spidey.The thief ends up being the Chameleon.Spidey tells him that he has been looking fo him for awhile now,that this character has been smearing his good name by commiting crimes while looking like him.

The Chameleon says that's the plan,and the two fight.Spidey unmasks him in the fight and spidey sees that this imposter is the crime lord that spidey has always been stoping.The Chameleon gets away.

The city wants the mayor to use all of their resources to capture spidey since the city has been fooled thinking that spidey is now a villain.

A scene with the Chameleon in his office watching the news is happy.The Chameleon has worked so hard to stop spidey and now he feels like he has done it.

A new game show has came to town to make some money off of spider-man.This game show is called "Kraven's Last Hunt".The host Sergei Kravinoff is Kraven as he has cameras watch him as he hunts for the wall crawler.

Norman Osborn has used Sergei Kravinoff as a guinea pig as he has injected him with Goblin serum,a few weapons,and has funded this game show so he can see how well Kraven will do against spidey.