Official The Hobbit thread

[Figs]

My only concern really is Del Toro has a unique visual style. I just don't want The Hobbit to feel to different from LotR.

One example, will the trolls that turned to stone while arguing about eating Bilbo and the rest, look the same as they did(in stone of course) in Fellowship of the Ring?

 

[luke1234]

My only concern really is Del Toro has a unique visual style. I just don't want The Hobbit to feel to different from LotR.

One example, will the trolls that turned to stone while arguing about eating Bilbo and the rest, look the same as they did(in stone of course) in Fellowship of the Ring?

i think theyll be careful with the scenery to make it feel like your going back to a familair mystical world, i think jackson will have some influnce over del toro to keep things mostly similar to the trilogy

 

[jaguarr]

My only concern really is Del Toro has a unique visual style. I just don't want The Hobbit to feel to different from LotR.

One example, will the trolls that turned to stone while arguing about eating Bilbo and the rest, look the same as they did(in stone of course) in Fellowship of the Ring?

The look and feel of the LOTR universe has already been pretty well established and accepted by audiences. I don't think Del Toro will muck with it too much. Jackson will still be involved and I suspect he'll be lending his perspective into set and character design.

jag

 

[DoctorJones]

I too will be curious to see Toro adapting his style to Jackson's: it's just LOTR looked so gritty, and yet Toro's style is clearly South American. It's so much more elemental.

That said, the faun in Pan's Labyrinth looked like an Ent.

 

[Rezzo]

He´s not official just yet.

Helmer: Hold Your Hobbits
Del Toro now says he's not officially signed for it.

Although he was reported last week as being officially on board to direct The Hobbit, as well as one additional film based on the works of J.R.R. Toklien, director Guillermo del Toro has now clarified the situation, saying his involvement with the New Line project "is not a sure thing."

In an exclusive interview with TotalFilm.com, del Toro explained, "Well, the reality is that the Hobbit story has broken early because the negotiations have not ended and The Hobbit is not a sure thing."

The Hellboy II helmer added, "The reality is, I will know that it's happening when we have the final word and I am fully and officially on board."

But lest fans think del Toro is suddenly shying away from the project, he emphasized that he "would love it" if he got to direct The Hobbit, which he said was the Tolkien tale that most resembled a fairy tale.

 

[Loki]

I Can't wait to see this, i hope Sam Raimi does it

 

[jaguarr]

I Can't wait to see this, i hope Sam Raimi does it

They already announced that Guillermo Del Toro was directing with Peter Jackson producing. It's all that's been talked about in this thread for days on end.

jag

 

[Darkly Dexter]

^^ Are you insane?

 

[Dr. Fate]

I'm not sure Sam Raimi would be right for the Hobbit.

 

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/hobbitnews.php?id=41842

Tolkien Estate Sues New Line
Source: ComingSoon.net, The Tolkien Trust
February 11, 2008


The estate of "Lord of the Rings" creator J.R.R. Tolkien is suing New Line Cinema, claiming the company failed to pay a cut of gross profits for the blockbuster films. Here is today's statement from The Tolkien Trust:

The trustees of The Tolkien Trust, a British charity, have filed an action against New Line Cinema for its failure to pay a contractually required gross profit participation in the three films based on the world-famous Lord of the Rings trilogy. The trustees of the estate of JRR Tolkien and HarperCollins Publishers are co-plaintiffs in the lawsuit. The suit was filed today in Los Angeles Superior Court.

The Lord of the Rings films produced by New Line are among the most financially successful films ever created by Hollywood and were released in 2001, 2002 and 2003 respectively. The cumulative worldwide gross receipts to date total nearly $6 billion. Notwithstanding the overwhelming financial success of the films, and the fact that the plaintiffs have a gross participation in each of the films, New Line has failed to pay the plaintiffs any portion of the gross profit participation at all.

The trustees' UK lawyer, Steven Maier, of Manches LLP, said: "The Tolkien trustees do not file lawsuits lightly, and have tried unsuccessfully to resolve their claims out of court. But in this case, New Line has left them no option at all. New Line has not paid the plaintiffs even one penny of its contractual share of gross receipts despite the billions of dollars of gross revenue generated by these wildly successful motion pictures. To make matters worse, to date New Line has even prevented the plaintiffs from auditing the last two films of the series. The trustees are very aggrieved by New Line's arrogance."

The complaint seeks, among other things, in excess of $150 million in compensatory damages, as well as punitive damages, and a declaration from the Court that the plaintiffs have a right to terminate any further rights New Line may have to the Tolkien works under the agreements, including The Hobbit, due to the serious and material nature of the breach of the agreements.

Bonnie Eskenazi, the trustees' US counsel who filed the complaint, said, "New Line has brought new meaning to the phrase 'creative accounting.' I cannot imagine how on earth New Line will argue to a jury that these films could gross literally billions of dollars, and yet the creator's heirs, who are entitled to a share of gross receipts, don't get a penny."

JRR Tolkien is the world-renowned author of the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy and "The Hobbit." The Tolkien Trust is a UK registered charity that has made grants to charitable causes all over the world totaling over $8 million in the last five years alone.

 

[JohnRico]

Just when things were looking good & with the strike ending. To good to be true

 

[Rac]

Just when things were looking good & with the strike ending. To good to be true

Yeah, we were so close.

 

[Noir]

There is no god.

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

damnit!!!!!!!!!1

 

[Timstuff]

Newline always finds a new way to screw things up, don't they? What did they think was going to happen when they flat-out stiffed the heirs of the series creator, after being contractually obligated to pay them?

Hopefully the Judge is a tolkien fan though, because that would ensure the Tolkien estate gets a fair settlement, without jeopardizing the future of the film franchise. If the estate manages to retract the movie rights, no-one is EVER going to get their hands on them again, because they were against making the movies in the first place. I'll bet they still think it was a mistake for Tolkien to have sold the film rights in the first place.

 

[Hush]

I agree Timstuff, this sucks but i mean how bigof an idiot do youhave to be NOT to pay the people that theyhavea contract with, did'nt New Line do this to Wesley Snipes too with Blade Trinity?

 

[odiin]

I agree Timstuff, this sucks but i mean how bigof an idiot do youhave to be NOT to pay the people that theyhavea contract with, did'nt New Line do this to Wesley Snipes too with Blade Trinity?

Yep, they did the same thing with Peter Jackson himself as well.

 

[DoctorJones]

EVERYBODY has been suing New Line.

Jackson, Saul Zaentz (whom Tolkien sold the rights to), eighteen of the minor actors, a Weta Workshopper who got fired...

Now Tolkien's Estate. I'm expecting Warner Bros. to produce the prequels at this point, what with all the lawsuits and the Golden Compass flopping.

 

[jaguarr]

Newline, you cheap bastards!

jag

 

[Hush]

I thik Greedy is the proper word Jag.

 

[odiin]

Everyone always gives Fox crap for being an awful studio but at least they PAY the people that work there.

 

[Hush]

Yeah and they are currently suing the company that owns New Line, Warner Bros.

 

[YsoSerious]

I think I'm gonna sue New Line too, why not?

 

[odiin]

I think I'm gonna sue New Line too, why not?

Yes. Sue them for not paying is the money they owe for having to sit through the Golden Compass.

 

[Ratcrawler]

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