Official The Hobbit thread

[dark_b]

to see the film in its full potential you would need a new hungry director that wants to proove himself to the world. Del toro was this..... Jackson is not. to see the full potential you would need a relaxed Jackson who is 100% focused on filming back to back two movies. Jackson is not.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Because all this **** is happening to him? The fact he is stepped in to do this film and spent two years on this thing through the thick says alot about him. He wants this film made as much as we do.

 

[Doc Ock]

Because all this **** is happening to him? The fact he is stepped in to do this film and spent two years on this thing through the thick says alot about him. He wants this film made as much as we do.

I agree completely.

 

[dark_b]

he said that if he will need to do it that then he will do it. it felt like he thinks he needs to save it . its not hes fault what happened.
if Jackson was so interested he would do it from start. but he was always going to be just the producer. now he is doing it because Del toro left.

its not something he wanted to do and mark my words you will feel it in 2013(no mistake here) when you will watch the movie

 

[Doctor Jones]

Not originally, no. But it's not his fault Del Toro walked away nor Del Toro's. But he still shows passion for bringing the film to screen. He could have easily looked for osmeone else, but no, he wants to make a film people want to see so he chose to direct it. He's speaking out of truth and passion and he just wants all of this to end so he can make his film finally.

 

[dark_b]

Not originally, no. But it's not his fault Del Toro walked away nor Del Toro's. But he still shows passion for bringing the film to screen. He could have easily looked for osmeone else, but no, he wants to make a film people want to see so he chose to direct it. He's speaking out of truth and passion and he just wants all of this to end so he can make his film finally.

so fast? no way. he had to jump in and save it.

 

[Boom]

New Line issues statement about "Hobbit" boycott.

Recent reports that the boycott of The Hobbit was lifted by unions a number of days ago and that Warner Bros asked to delay this announcement are false. It was not until last night that we received confirmation of the retractions from SAG, NZ Equity and AFTRA through press reports. We are still awaiting retractions from the other guilds. While we have been attempting to receive an unconditional retraction of the improper Do Not Work Orders for almost a month, NZ Equity/MEAA continued to demand, as a condition of the retractions, that we participate in union negotiations with the independent contractor performers, which negotiations are illegal in the opinion of the New Zealand Attorney General. We have refused to do so, and will continue to refuse to do so. The actions of these unions have caused us substantial damage and disruption and forced us to consider other filming locations for the first time. Alternative locations are still being considered.

Unbelievable. New Zealand Actors Equity is still trying to get WB to engage in collective bargaining with non-union actors, even after admitting almost a month ago that to do so would be illegal.

After days of explanation and legal opinions, including one from the Crown Law Office, Jennifer Ward-Lealand of NZ Equity has admitted that the MEAA’s demands to enter into collective bargaining are in fact illegal.

SOURCE: http://www.theonering.net/torwp/201...ks-on-actor-boycott-of-the-hobbit/#more-38874

 

[Boom]

so fast? no way. he had to jump in and save it.

I fail to see why that's a problem. Yes, he feels obligated to protect WB's investment. But that doesn't mean he is obligated to do so. Sticking with the project is his choice. He could very well have left it in somebody else's hands, but he continues to stick by it. That says a great deal about his passion and committment to the films.

As far as him not having his full heart in the project, he recently explained that once the smoke has cleared and the project's future has 100% certainty, then he can fully invest himself in it and get excited about it. He and Blomkamp learned a hard lesson from the failed Halo project. Hell, he even got to witness GDT go through it while he was attached to The Hobbit. It's painful to put your heart and soul into a film and then have it fall apart last minute. I have no doubt we will get the same passionate Tolkien fan once the dust has settled and The Hobbit is a full "GO".

 

[Boom]

'The Hobbit' may flee New Zealand despite SAG's acquiescence

A day after the guild lifted its ban on members' working on 'The Hobbit,' Warner Bros. says it has suffered 'substantial damage' from union activities and threatens to move production of the two-movie project offshore.

So much for peace breaking out in the Shire.

A day after the Screen Actors Guild announced it was ending its do-not-work order on the production of " The Hobbit," Warner Bros. denounced the unions that boycotted its production and said it was weighing locations outside of New Zealand for filming the two-picture project.

"The actions of these unions have caused us substantial damage and disruption and forced us to consider other filming locations for the first time,'' said Warner Bros., whose New Line Cinema unit is producing the films with Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer.

Warner Bros. noted that most of the seven international unions that participated in the boycott had not yet rescinded their do-not-work orders. The studio also balked at demands by New Zealand Actors Equity, which has been seeking to secure union wages and benefits for performers in New Zealand.

Warner maintains that the New Zealand performers are independent contractors, not union members, and that it would be illegal for the studio to participate in contract negotiations.

The studio's statement follows claims made this week by Peter Jackson, the film's director and producer, that plans were underway to move the production to another country, even if the SAG boycott were lifted, because the "damage inflicted on our film industry" was "long since done."

Jackson told New Zealand media that representatives of Warner Bros. would be visiting New Zealand to "make arrangements to move the production offshore."

A person familiar with the production, however, said Warner Bros. executives had not made a final decision and that the purpose of the trip was to seek assurances from the New Zealand government and Actors Equity that the studio's $500-million investment "The Hobbit" would not be jeopardized by future labor unrest.

Warner Bros. may be hoping that the threat of moving "The Hobbit" could prompt New Zealand officials to offer added financial incentives to keep the production in the country. Production on the first film is set to begin in February.

Concern that New Zealand might lose "The Hobbit" has divided actors there and sparked protests Wednesday among some 1,500 film industry workers who staged a rally in the country's capital, Wellington.

SOURCE: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-ct-hobbit-20101022,0,3929664.story

Looks like the boycott is still in effect for the most part.

 

[Octoberist]

I can see them delaying the shoot if they move. I can't see them getting ready for FEB when they would have to start from scratch and scout new locations in Europe (or whatever)

 

[Octoberist]

The Partial OFFICIAL CAST. Yes, Martin is Bilbo!

BREAKING: While Peter Jackson and Warner Bros are figuring out where they'll shoot back-to-back installments of The Hobbit, Jackson has begun to set his cast for the ambitious projects that will begin shooting in February for release in December 2012, and 2013. As Deadline told you last week, Martin Freeman is set to play Bilbo Baggins, the adventurous Hobbit whose adventures and discovery of the One Ring leads the story up to The Lord of the Rings.

Jackson has cast the major Dwarf characters.

Richard Armitage (MI-5 and Captain America: The First Avenger) will play Thorin Oakenshield, leader of the Company of Dwarves which sets off to reclaim the Lonely Mountain from a thieving dragon. Aidan Turner (Being Human) and Rob Kazinsky (EastEnders) will play Kili and Fili, members of the Company of Dwarves. Graham McTavish (Secretariat) will play Dwalin, John Callen (Power Rangers Jungle Fury) will play Oin; Stephen Hunter (All Saints) will play Bombur, and Mark Hadlow (King Kong) plays Dori, while Peter Hambleton (The Strip) will play Gloin.
That casting has just beginning, and there will be much more. Word is that Jimmy Nesbitt and David Tennant are up for roles, and that Ian McKellan and Andy Serkis are expected to reprise Gandalf and Gollum. Stephen Fry, Saoirse Ronan, Bill Nighy is a possible participant as the voice of Smaug the Dragon, and Aiden Turner is in contention for the Elf King.

"Despite the various rumours and speculation surround this role, there has only ever been one Bilbo Baggins for us," Peter Jackson said. There are a few times in your career when you come across an actor who you know was born to play a role, but that was the case as soon as I met Martin. He is intelligent, funny, surprising and brave--exactly like Bilbo and I feel incredibly proud to be able to announce that he is our Hobbit."


http://www.deadline.com/2010/10/peter-jackson-sets-first-names-for-the-hobbit/

 

[Chewy]

John Callen (Power Rangers Jungle Fury)

 

[Venomfan]

no brenden gleeson

but everything else

 

[Octoberist]

John Callen hasn't done a whole lot, has he?

 

[terry78]

Martin, good choice.

 

[Boom]

Bill Nighy.

In the running for Smaug.




Oh my GOD.

 

[Octoberist]

I cannot wait!

 

[Doctor Jones]

At least some good news has come out of this so far. I love that Freeman is Bilbo. Perfect casting!

 

[corby]

MARTIN!

 

[Boom]

Have to say, I'm a bit thrown off by most of these castings. Who the hell are these people? I mean Richard Armitage I know. But for Thorin? I just have a hard time picturing it.

But I'm glad they worked things out with Freeman. He'll be great.

 

[terry78]

I thought they were trying to get Brian Cox for Smaug. Though who I secretly want to voice him is Christopher Plummer.

 

[FVD]

Haha I guess not. Well at least Martin Freeman will be Bilbo after all. Our prayers have been answered, though isn't Richard Armitage a little young to be playing Thorin?

Hmm Bill Nighy as Smaug would certainly be interesting. And I for one am glad there are Kiwi actors on board, especially Mark Hadlow.

 

[Boom]

I guess the ages of these actors doesn't matter too much, as their faces will be fully covered in hair and prosthetics.

 

[ALP]

Well they need to get a move on it because Christopher Lee is 88 years old and ain't getting any younger lol But I love him, can't imagine anyone else as Saruman. Sir Christopher will be in his 90s when these movies are released, still takin' names.

 

[Wolfwood]

to see the film in its full potential you would need a new hungry director that wants to proove himself to the world. Del toro was this..... Jackson is not. to see the full potential you would need a relaxed Jackson who is 100% focused on filming back to back two movies. Jackson is not.

Del Toro is a young hungry director that needs to prove himself?