Official The Hobbit thread

[FilmNerdJamie]

Heat Vision confirms Wood's return to Middle Earth.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/heat-vision/elijah-wood-negotiations-reprise-frodo-69611

 

[Marx]

I'm still not sure about Frodo's inclusion. It's really going to depend on how it's done.

 

[craigdbfan]

I understand including parts of the the Silmarillion but trying to shoehorn in the LOTR series sounds a little dubious.

Like Marx said it all depends on how its done but I'd rather them put all their efforts in adapting a good Hobbit story first and foremost.

 

[Octoberist]

I hope the next cast member announced with be..MICHAEL BASSBENDER!

I think he has a film to shoot in the Spring, but let's say if he contending for the 'Bard' role, I'm sure he doesn't have to come in right away. Perhaps film his stuff later in the year or the next, depending on the shooting schedule.

 

[Octoberist]

I hope the next cast member announced with be..MICHAEL BASSBENDER!

I think he has a film to shoot in the Spring, but let's say if he contending for the 'Bard' role, I'm sure he doesn't have to come in right away. Perhaps film his stuff later in the year or the next, depending on the shooting schedule.

 

[RaZaTrOn]

Aragorn is 87 in LOTR right? And The Hobbit takes place 60 years or so before LOTR? So he would be a young man.

Aragorn could show up in the second part, but it all depends on how far they will take extra material.
For example we could see Aragorn hunting Gollum.

 

[Octoberist]

What? Aragorn was 87? Or did I miss the joke?

edit: I guess in Middle-Earth, Numenoreans get to live till 120 and he comes from that bloodline. So yeah, he looks damn good for being 87 in Lord of the Rings.

 

[Silver Knight]

Because he's the son of the Elf King, who is actually in The Hobbit (book). So despite Legolas not being mentioned, it was assumed he was present during the events of the book. Remember, when Tolkien wrote the Hobbit, he didn't think of the mythos until his later Middle-Earth books. Because of that, the other books tie in everything together (including the Hobbit) where as The Hobbit itself is viewed as a stand alone tale. If that makes sense.

Aragorn, on the other hand, would be stupid because I don't think he's even born yet.

Thanks for clearing that up man.

 

[Octoberist]

I was stupid, man, for not knowing that Aragorn was a Numenorean human.

 

[Silver Knight]

I thought Aragorn said he was older in ROTK?

 

[Doctor Jones]

No, in the extended version of TT Aragorn told Eowyn he was 87 in the scene where they rest on the road to Helm's Deep.

 

[danoyse]

I'm still not sure about Frodo's inclusion. It's really going to depend on how it's done.

Well, according to OneRing.net, he's going to appear at the beginning of each of the films as Bilbo tells the story of what happened with the dwarves. They kinda don't need him there...but I kinda like it. In the LOTR movies it seemed like they all grew up knowing Bilbo's stories, and in these films you get to see how the story was told to them.

I also hope this means Ian Holm will return as the older Bilbo Baggins.

Damn...all of this makes me really want to watch the LOTR movies again.

 

[Silver Knight]

Well, according to OneRing.net, he's going to appear at the beginning of each of the films as Bilbo tells the story of what happened with the dwarves. They kinda don't need him there...but I kinda like it. In the LOTR movies it seemed like they all grew up knowing Bilbo's stories, and in these films you get to see how the story was told to them.

I also hope this means Ian Holm will return as the older Bilbo Baggins.

Damn...all of this makes me really want to watch the LOTR movies again.

I feel the same way.

 

[Octoberist]

Also, this means another thing: By having Frodo read the book during the time of post- 'Lord of the Rings', it enforces the idea this movie doesn't have to be watched in chronological order based on the time line.

Unlike when Lucas made the Star Wars prequels, he intended for the viewers to watch them in order from Episode 1 to 6. Here, I think The Hobbit complements 'Lord of the Rings' by being a prequel that you don't have to watch first.

 

[craigdbfan]

Also, this means another thing: By having Frodo read the book during the time of post- 'Lord of the Rings', it enforces the idea this movie doesn't have to be watched in chronological order based on the time line.

Unlike when Lucas made the Star Wars prequels, he intended for the viewers to watch them in order from Episode 1 to 6. Here, I think The Hobbit complements 'Lord of the Rings' by being a prequel that you don't have to watch first.

So will be seeing post LOTR Frodo reading the book? So it won't be Frodo hearing the stories from Bilbo before the events of LOTR?

I'm a bit confused.

 

[Octoberist]

Or something like that, Craig. I'm not too sure, but you know..you get what I was trying to say right? Jackson doesn't want to treat 'The Hobbit' as a prequel per say, though it still ties into his Lord of the Rings film universe. So it's meant to be a film that you have to watch post- 'Lord of the Rings', not prior.

 

[craigdbfan]

Or something like that, Craig. I'm not too sure, but you know..you get what I was trying to say right? Jackson doesn't want to treat 'The Hobbit' as a prequel per say, though it still ties into his Lord of the Rings film universe. So it's meant to be a film that you have to watch post- 'Lord of the Rings', not prior.

Oh I see, yeah I totally see what you're saying and frankly both sound good as I can see Jackson making either one of them work.

 

[Donut]

So its a Prequel to The Lord Of The Rings but the movie might end up starting after The Lord Of The Rings

 

[danoyse]

So its a Prequel to The Lord Of The Rings but the movie might end up starting after The Lord Of The Rings

I'm thinking Frodo's appearance in the Hobbit films takes place prior to the events of Lord of the Rings. It's just Bilbo telling them the story he was writing.

 

[Dark Sentinel]

I understand including parts of the the Silmarillion but trying to shoehorn in the LOTR series sounds a little dubious.

Like Marx said it all depends on how its done but I'd rather them put all their efforts in adapting a good Hobbit story first and foremost.

it's not so much that they're "shoehorning" Frodo into the movie as that many people aren't as familiar with The Hobbit as LotR so it makes sense for there to be a connection between the two. I have full faith that PJ knows what he's doing, and I kind of like the idea of him reading Bilbo's account of his own journey, since the Red Book of Westmarch WAS in his possession after his return from Mordor.

btw, how could you POSSIBLY include parts of the Silmarillion?? that **** happened like two AGES ago man, get with the times!!

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[superkong 500]

Frodo being in the Hobbit is completel unnecessary but if he's just the narrator or something along those lines then its alright. Aragorn could appear in the second film, he would be around 26 or so by the Hobbit. Legolas being in it would be kind of logical since his father is King Thranduil. PJ could just throw the excuse that Legolas was around during the time of the Hobbit, afterall Mirkwood is his homeland. Another thing about Aragorn if I'm not mistaken after he married Arwen he lived for 120 years, so in total he lived 200+ years. The numenorean's life span is very long compared to that of a normal man.

 

[Schlosser85]

It will be a stretch to make Elijah Wood look the same in The Hobbit as he did in LOTR. He was 18 then, he's 30 now.

Even he's not that ageless.

 

[Octoberist]

It will be a stretch to make Elijah Wood look the same in The Hobbit as he did in LOTR. He was 18 then, he's 30 now.

Even he's not that ageless.

He hasn't changed that much and has aged pretty well. The only difference being is that his facial features are less soft than before.

I can't see how it would be a problem, espcially with the wig and make-up. And his voice for the most part is the same, though a bit deeper.

A recent video with Elijah (on music)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXuLB8VCgAQ&feature=related

 

[Octoberist]

I also hope that 'The Hobbit' can restart Elijah's career. I mean, it seems like he's pretty content doing voice over work and he has all the money in the world. But I feel he could do a bit better than 'The Romantics' which got NO BUZZ what so ever.

 

[Donut]

I'm thinking Frodo's appearance in the Hobbit films takes place prior to the events of Lord of the Rings. It's just Bilbo telling them the story he was writing.

Thinking about it it can not take place after The Lord Of The Rings in the beginning with him reading his book because Frodo left The Shire for good. I guess it makes sense to have it be Bilbo telling the stories to the Hobbits