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OFFICIAL TNA Impact/Wrestling Thread

I have a question. With the best of TNA dvds, are the matches on their heavily clipped?

I purchased The Best of Daniels today and all the matches between Triple X and AMW are clipped to disgust. I know they wanted to get everything in, but it was a pain in the ass to watch. I lost interest in the dvd before I even got to his reign as a singles competitor. At least the Iron Man match was complete.
 
Best of AJ Styles and X Division Volume 1 are not clipped.

The Ultimate X Collection and Best of the X Division Matches have some couple matches that are clipped a little.

So what matches other than the Iron Man match are NOT clipped NDX?
 
The only ones that I know are not clipped are:

Tripple X v. AJ Styles & D-Lo Brown
Christopher Daniels v. Chris Harris
Christopher Daniels v. Buck Quartermain which lead to Christopher Daniels v. AJ Styles in a 10 minute challenge
And the Iron Man match.

I was so bothered by the dvd I had to turn it off, even though the Iron Man match, after finally seeing it for the first time, was complete. I'll watch the rest of the matches later tonight probably.

Do you know if anything on the Raven dvd is clipped? Because seeing this dvd really has turned me off to buying other TNA dvds. If I wanted clipping, I could have bought an FMW dvd and NOT have to sit through Don West AND save 10 bucks.
 
To my understanding nothing on the Raven DVD is clipped. And nothing on the 3 other best of DVD's are clipped.
 
That sucks about the Daniels DVD. I really wanted to get it, though if you say you had to turn it off in the middle, it doesn't sound too good.
 
TheVileOne said:
I'll believe those reports when they actually happen.

It makes me sad that what makes the ratings go up on RAW is the BS they did last night. Its almost like wrestling really is dead.
Do you always have to be Smarky McAngrySmark, or do you take time off?
 
I'll give a full review once I finish off the second half of it. The match selection looks good, I just want to see if they are clipped or not.

That's good about Raven. What other three dvds are you talking about (I can only think of Jeff Hardy and America's Most Wanted).
 
Sarge 2.0 said:
Do you always have to be Smarky McAngrySmark, or do you take time off?
I see no reason to be happy about the garbage that was WWE for the past 2 nights.
 
NDX said:
I'll give a full review once I finish off the second half of it. The match selection looks good, I just want to see if they are clipped or not.

That's good about Raven. What other three dvds are you talking about (I can only think of Jeff Hardy and America's Most Wanted).

AJ Styles DVD, which I own. And Best of the X Division Volume 1 which I also own.

I have Best Of The X Division matches as well. And 2 of the matches are clipped on there (Styles vs. Lynn and Ultimate X).

To my knowledge, nothing is clipped on the AMW, 3LK, or best of the NWA-TNA title match DVD's.
 
TheVileOne said:
I see no reason to be happy about the garbage that was WWE for the past 2 nights.
Well, for one I wasn't talking about part of that. In any case, you didn't order the PPV, so you can't really give an objective review, (like most people, who seemed to enjoy it) you just rant on your anti-WWE sentiment. And then, when something positive comes up regarding Sting, you shoot it down with cynicism. These PWI Reports are almost always trustworthy, but you refuse to believe anything good regarding a "mainstream" wrestler making his way to an indie company. If you're so disheartened with WWE and its product, do what many like you have done...stop watching it. Stick to your TNA's and ROH's, CZW's and NJPW's. But at the end of the day dude, you need to put stuff into perspective. It's all just professional wrestling. It's a predetermined, staged piece of entertainment that shouldn't be taken too seriously.
 
TheVileOne said:
AJ Styles DVD, which I own. And Best of the X Division Volume 1 which I also own.

I have Best Of The X Division matches as well. And 2 of the matches are clipped on there (Styles vs. Lynn and Ultimate X).

To my knowledge, nothing is clipped on the AMW, 3LK, or best of the NWA-TNA title match DVD's.

Hmm, I'll have to rethink getting that Best of X Division dvd now. Not really much of an AJ Styles fan but his dvd does look good. AMW, after the last year, is on my list now, but you couldn't pay me to buy the 3LK dvd.

If anyone here has the Raven dvd can tell me what it's like and if it's clipped, I'd be much appreciative.
 
Sarge 2.0 said:
Well, for one I wasn't talking about part of that. In any case, you didn't order the PPV, so you can't really give an objective review, (like most people, who seemed to enjoy it) you just rant on your anti-WWE sentiment. And then, when something positive comes up regarding Sting, you shoot it down with cynicism. These PWI Reports are almost always trustworthy, but you refuse to believe anything good regarding a "mainstream" wrestler making his way to an indie company. If you're so disheartened with WWE and its product, do what many like you have done...stop watching it. Stick to your TNA's and ROH's, CZW's and NJPW's. But at the end of the day dude, you need to put stuff into perspective. It's all just professional wrestling. It's a predetermined, staged piece of entertainment that shouldn't be taken too seriously.
They aren't always trustworthy, that's the thing.

And I personally feel that bringing in Sting is sort of counter-productive to TNA. I'm not interested in bringing Sting to feud with Jarrett. If he comes in and he can still wrestle quality matches and put over the young guys great, but he's never been known to really do that before.
 
PWInsider.com

Spike TV and TNA held a conference call this afternoon with Sting to promote TNA Impact and the 1/15 Final Resolution PPV in Orlando, Florida. Highlights of the call saw:

TNA’s Andy Barton noted the PPV was taking place this weekend and noted the ratings for this past Saturday’s Impact. He then introduced Sting.

When asked about his religious views impacting his storylines, Sting said they absolutely do. He said that he has fans of all ages and doesn’t want to do anything that jeopardizes his integrity.

Sting was asked why he would return to wrestling now and why to TNA. Sting said that time will tell if he has “anything in the tank.” He said that it was now or never and the way he left wrestling wasn’t the way he wanted to leave. He said that every year that goes by, this is it, and if he doesn’t do something now, it’ll be too late. He said it creates a full circle because Jerry Jarrett hired him when he first started out and placed him with Bill Watts when they finished them up. He said he wanted to give back and say goodbye to wrestling the right way. He said that he and WCW were second class citizens before Monday Nitro was launched and he knows what it’s like to build a company, and he wants to help TNA. He said that Dixie Carter has been very good to him and the schedule is good. Had he wanted to go to WWE, the schedule would have been more of a commitment then he would have wanted to make. Sting said that he feels he has a brand on his persona, and that’s Turner, which is different from what WWE has. He says that he feels like he’s almost coming back home because TNA is similar to WWE.

When asked about how WCW is portrayed by the wrestling business today with books like Death of WCW and if it’s a fair assessment. Sting said that history is done and it makes no sense to go back and rehash in 2006.

When asked about his motivating factors to get back in the business, Sting joked that he’s been busy. He said that he received a phone call from Jerry and Jeff Jarrett and Dixie Carter. He said his initial reaction was No and that he didn’t want to go back to TNA, or anywhere. He said that he declined but thought about it. He said that he never had a chance to truly retire and go out in a better light. He said that Jerry gave him his break and he wants to give back.

When asked about discussions with WWE, he said that they had discussions just before he signed with TNA. He said they called him and they had conversations, but he decided to go to TNA.

When asked about TNA’s alternative product and how he fits in there, Sting said he wants to find a way to plug himself in and find his niche. He says that there are guys who do things that he’s never seen before and also guys who do his style and tell stories the way Sting and “his breed of wrestlers” did. When asked who he would like to work with, Sting said that he’s always had good matches with big guys, noting Vader and The Giant. He says that he loves Abyss’ work and would like to do something with him as he can see the chemistry there.

When asked about how often he’ll be appearing, Sting said that TNA isn’t a part-time thing that he signed up for. He said that it’s not a lot of travel and work time but he’ll be very involved. He said he doesn’t know he’ll be appearing on every show or PPV but he’ll be involved.

When asked about bringing guys up to a new level, Sting said that is one of the things he wants to do to give back. He says that there are some out there that think he wants to come in and push everyone else aside, but that’s not his intentions. He said he wants to help everyone else. He said that he remembered when Hulk Hogan came to WCW in 1994, he was often asked if he was upset he was pushed aside. He said he wasn’t because it took the pressure off of him personally and that it would help the overall company. He’s hoping that he can do the same for TNA.

When asked about his look when he returns to the ring, Sting said it’ll be a similar look except he has shorter hair. He said that he didn’t think he looked like Sting when he painted up at TV, but it doesn’t take hair to make a wrestler.

When asked what TNA needs to do to become a better competitor to WWE, Sting said that they need a better timeslot. He said that he’s going to pitch it to Spike TV with “everything in him” and everyone wants that. He said that if TNA can get head to head with WWE on Monday Nights, they would be a longshot, but because there are so many innovative talents, it would be like the old days where fans jump back and forth. He said if there are some brand name people we can add to the mix, like when Lex Luger jumped the first episode of Nitro, that would help create a buzz. If things like that happen, which he thinks can happen, who knows?

When asked about his PPV match, Sting said that he’s going to go into the ring and hoping the match takes off really quick. He said that he’s been working out and getting into shape but you have to be in the ring and “get your hands dirty” before you can tell how things will go. He said that Christian Cage is a really talented guy.

When asked about having a tag match his first match back, Sting said it will be a help as it won’t be “go go go” the entire time the way it is with a singles match. He said that as 2006 goes by, he believes that he’s going to get stronger and better. He said that it may take a few times in the ring to shake off his ring rust but he’s looking forward to it. He said that he’s not involved in any movie projects but is doing an acting workshop in Los Angeles.

When asked if he’d be doing any religious shows, Sting said If Ted DiBiase, Vince Russo, or Shawn Michaels did something he would ask TNA about getting involved but didn’t see it as somewhere he would be wrestling anytime soon.

He was asked if he was interested in continuing after a year. Sting said that there is potential and it all depends on how body holds out. He said he doesn’t want to be the old dinosaur in the corner, but wants to be the guy that can deliver the goods. He said that if he’s feeling good at the end of the year, we’ll see what happened.

Sting was asked if you can be an upstanding religious man and enjoy wrestling. He said that you can be if you are grounded. He said that he heard about the sexual antics that happened this past Monday and said that if you are watching it every week, you have to ask how it’s benefiting you. He said that if you have to turn it off except when you are watching some good storylines and athletes, that’s what you need to do.

When asked about the surfer Sting look, he joked that he doesn’t have the hair for the look anymore.

A caller brought up Samoa Joe. Sting said that he’s just started to see his work over the last month and said, “Oh man, he can go.” He praised Joe and said he’d love to work with him.

When asked about the Ultimate Warrior DVD that WWE release, Sting said that he was interviewed for a documentary that Warrior is putting together. He said that Warrior had a list of guys who he wanted to interview for it, including Vince McMahon and out of that led to a disagreement and out came the WWE’s DVD. He said that in today’s world, where video outtakes are kept for prosperity, it’s easy to design a production where people are made to look bad.

When asked about working with bigger guys in the ring, he said he would rather work stiff then have it look like they aren’t working well in the ring.

When asked about his recent WWE discussions, Sting said his negotiations were personal. He said that in 2006 they were going to be working outside the United States more then they ever had before and the schedule meant 12-15 days a month not including travel. He said that there would be some months that would be too much of a grind and he doesn’t want to leave his family like that again.

When asked about his family’s reaction to his return, Sting said his teenage sons are excited about it. He said that they’ve been on the road and traveled with him, and they are looking forward to going to Universal Studios. He said his daughter is only 5 and doesn’t really understand what is happening yet. He said his wife didn’t want to see him go back into it, but the way things fell into place, they know it’s the way to go.

Sting was asked what his goals are now, and if the booking committee is a possibility. Sting said he just wants to give back in whatever way it makes sense over the next year. He said he doesn’t want the World title or the booking committee, but if it makes sense for him to be champion, he’d accept it. He said he wants TNA to become an alternative product but doesn’t want the pressure of writing a whole company. He said in WCW, he gave suggestions for a lot of people and wants to operate here in a similar fashion.

When a caller commented it was mind boggling that WWE never brought him in, Sting said he made his choice and decision and is focused on TNA. He said he’s a TNA wrestler and he’s looking forward to this challenge.

When asked about getting a chance to say goodbye to wrestling fans the way he would like to, what would be his best way to do so. He said that he’d like to have that last match in the ring and have his boots in the middle of the ring. He said that he hasn’t thought about it but he wants it to be something other then what happened, where he disappeared with WCW. He said that he doesn’t know when or how it’ll happen, but if it’s part of a shooting storyline, that would be pretty cool.

When asked he would like to get back in the ring with again, Sting said that in a perfect world he’d like to work with a Steve Austin or a Rock. He said that he’d like to work with AJ Styles, Abyss, and Samoa Joe and as time goes on, there will be others.

When asked if the Spike TV slot a major factor in signing with TNA, Sting said it was. He said that Jeff Jarrett called him and said that they landed Spike, so are you willing to talk, and Sting was. He said that he hopes TNA can fill the void that’s out there.

When asked about the backstage atmosphere, Sting said everyone was friendly, although he didn’t know everyone personally. He said that everyone was cool, from the wrestlers to the behind the scenes personnel and felt like home. He said that you can’t make a comparison with WCW, as they had a good thing that let slip through their fingers.

When asked about facing Ric Flair on the last Monday Nitro, he said it was an emotional night because he knew it was the end. He said he was having flashbacks to the Clash of the Champions and the Great American Bashes. He said that the chemistry was great and he loved working with Ric Flair more then anyone, and he was going out with the guy who put him on the map. He said it was emotional and a tough night.

When asked who he’d like to see come to TNA, Sting said he’d like to see The Rock come in, but then stopped and said he didn’t want to say any more names for obvious reasons.

When asked what makes TNA a good choice for him, he said it’s not perfect but it’s a cleaner show as compared to what else is out there. He said the wrestling is second to none and truly is nonstop action. He said there are a lot of people who are looking for avenues to get their names out there and TNA is a great start. He thinks it’s going to be a great year.

When asked about his first reactions to the X-Division, he said that he thought he had seen it all in the WCW Cruiserweight division. His first reaction was that the business had passed him by and that he didn’t know if he could bring anything back to the business. He said that he hopes to tell stories the way he has in the past.

When asked about coming into TNA as someone who was a marquee player for WCW, he said it is a huge challenge. He said that there are fans and wrestlers who don’t want him in TNA and he knows that he a lot on his plate. He said his age is a factor and he has a lot that he has to deal with. He said that there is a lot ahead, but he’s been part of a company that been there once before, so he hopes to add some tenacity to the fight through thin and tough times. He said that he believes TNA will be successful soon.

When asked about how he didn’t like the way WCW ended, Sting said he was a fierce competitor with WWF. He said they were fighting to be the number one company for a long time, so to see it happen and then lose it to the person they were fighting with was hard. He said that he was the only guy who never went to the WWE and was the poster child. He said that he was there when WCW had a tiny little booth at the NATPE conventions in the corner while there were huge WWF setups with a ring.

When asked if Vince McMahon is a good or bad guy, he said that he has never worked for him and we all hear the stories. He said that on the phone, Vince has always been a gentleman on the phone.

When asked if there would be a second boom if TNA got a Monday night timeslot, Sting said there would be. He said there are fans who tuned out after WCW died and they would come back if there was something new with old faces and great wrestling. He said Monday Night is the only night that he has on his mind but he doesn’t know where everyone’s head is in regard to the timeslot.

When asked about his character over the next year, Sting said that he has to call Jeff Jarrett after the conference call to discuss things. The caller joked about a crazy heel turn. He said that if the crowd boos him out of the building, it might be a good time to do that. He said he has no idea what to expect.

When asked which Sting look was his favorite, he said it’s so easy to say the Crow look because it was so successful and the blonde Sting seems outdated in 2006.

When asked about the influence of religion in his life now, Sting said that he believes God led him to TNA. He said Shawn Michaels led prayers for the locker room when Eddie Guerrero had passed away at Vince McMahon’s requests. He said that on TV, Michaels praised Jesus Christ. He said that people are going to say he’s judging when he says this but Christ went and stayed with those who were sinners. He said that Shawn Michaels leads the light where he is. He said that Michaels stands for what he believes in, and Sting feels he is the same way.

When asked what his legacy would be in the business, he said that he wants to be remembered as someone who found the Lord and straightened his life out, and still entertained people with integrity. He said that he wants to be someone who wasn’t harmful or hurtful and didn’t go for the cheap pop. He said he’d like to be remembered as someone who gave back to wrestling because it gave to him.

When asked how much he still watches the business, Sting said he went through seasons where he watched. He said that he often used to wonder how and where he could plug himself back in the business. He said that he does see some of himself in today’s talent and it’s an honor when some guys tell him they were inspired to become wrestlers because they watched him. He said it’s cool and flattering but also humbling. Sting said that he wants to see everyone get raised up to a new level.

When asked who his last opponent would be in a “perfect world”, he said that he told Abyss that he’d love to go out doing a storyline with him. He said that he loves working with big guys because he can do a lot with them. He said that he’d love to wrestle The Rock.

When asked what he missed and didn’t miss about the business, Sting said he misses being in the ring when a storyline was hot and the fans loved it. He said that he loved working in the Baltimore Arena and anywhere WCW went in Chicago. He said that he doesn’t miss the travel or spending all the time in airports.

When asked if he would do anything different in his life, would he. He noted he broke into the business 20 years ago and probably would have found the Lord first.

When asked if any of the current stars reminding him of guys from his era, he said Abyss reminds him of The Giant. He said in another 6-8 weeks, he’ll probably have a million comparisons.

When asked about his creative control in TNA, he said that he would have a lot over himself, but he’s open to what is suggested. He doesn’t want to go in thinking about himself but the overall product. He said that he can’t creatively write a storyline that takes place over a year but can give suggestions and tweak things to everyone’s benefit.

When asked about the Crow Sting look, he said it was a Scott Hall suggestion and they were never concerned about being sued by the creators of the movie.

When asked if he was worried that the younger wrestling fans might have distanced themselves from him and wrestling, he said that there is a generation that doesn’t know who he is now. He said that it’s part of the road ahead but believes that it can and will work.

When it was noted that he is one of the few that have never gone to WWE, he said that all the times he spoke to Vince McMahon in the 1990s, the feeling was that it always more to undermine WCW as opposed to wanting Sting as a talent. He said that now, he wouldn’t want to maintain the schedule. When the Edge sex angle was brought up, he said that while McMahon was really good to him on the phone and said that he would never undermine Sting’s beliefs, there are a lot of things the company has done that he wouldn’t be comfortable with.

When asked about Eric Bischoff, he said he has nothing but good things to say. He said that everyone likes to remember him as the one who sunk the WCW ship but it was a “group of us” overall who undermined each other and had a lot of secret agendas. He said that Bischoff was the first one who would talk to wrestling fans and get feedback and he surrounded himself with people he could trust. He said that they had a good working relationship. He said the night they launched Nitro, the rest was history.

When asked if Ultimate Warrior would be a good addition to TNA, Sting said that he hasn’t spoken to Warrior beyond the documentary Warrior was putting together. He said that he thinks the idea of Warrior in TNA would be pretty interesting.

When asked about the passing of Eddie Guerrero, he said that he was sad as he had worked with all of the Guerreros when he was breaking in. Sting said that he has some peace in knowing that he’ll see Eddie again and hopes that it opens everyone’s eyes. He said it opens the wrestlers’ eyes to think about something outside of the wrestling business.

At that point, the call, which went 22 minutes over schedule, was ended by TNA as Sting had other commitments to get to.
 
Thanks for the recap hunter rider. Let it be known that I am a Sting fan and Sting was always my favorite growing up.

However, that said, there were even some parts in this conference call, that Sting seems somewhat unsure of himself if he can still go and bring it in the ring. He seems motivated now and everything, but now that he's a lot older, I don't know if that's enough. Simply, his wrestling when he was in TNA before and in his final years in WCW was really nothing special.
 
Nice read there, thanks for that. Sounds like he's coming in with a great attitude.
 
TheVileOne said:
Thanks for the recap hunter rider. Let it be known that I am a Sting fan and Sting was always my favorite growing up.

However, that said, there were even some parts in this conference call, that Sting seems somewhat unsure of himself if he can still go and bring it in the ring. He seems motivated now and everything, but now that he's a lot older, I don't know if that's enough. Simply, his wrestling when he was in TNA before and in his final years in WCW was really nothing special.

The way i look at it is that he appears to be coming in with the right attitude,he is in good physical condition and isn't affraid to work stiff and im sure you know as well as me that with Vader he worked as stiff if not stiffer than Joe does
Now he is still unsure he can hack the pace but the fact he has the humility and lack of arrogance to admit that and isnt coming in with the flippant mindset that he can just do it again is a good thing as it shows he is thinking clearly but i really doubt he would show up if he really didn't believe he could carry his weight,he's just being cautious and humble, not digging any holes for himself which is smart
 
Well as I said I would, here is the match list of The Best of Christopher Daniels:

Intros
July 10, 2002 - 6 Way Match, Daniels TNA Debut (Clipped)
March 12, 2003 - XXX v. AMW (Clipped)
April 23, 2003 - XXX v. AMW (Clipped)
May 14, 2003 - XXX v. AJ Styles/D-Lo Brown (Unclipped)
June 18, 2003 - XXX v. AMW (Clipped)
June 25, 2003 - XXX v. AMW Cage Match (Clipped)
August 11, 2004 - XXX v. AMW Best of 3, #1 (Clipped)
August 18, 2004 - XXX v. AMW Best of 3, #2 (Clipped)
August 25, 2004 - XXX v. AMW Best of 3, #3 (Clipped)
August 26, 2004 iMPACT - v. Chris Harris (Unclipped, commercial break)
Turning Point 2004 - XXX v. AMW 6 Sides Of Steel Match (Clipped)
On Camera With Christopher Daniels
January 18, 2005 iMPACT - v. Buck Quartermain (Unclipped)
January 18, 2005 iMPACT - v. AJ Styles (Unclipped)
Against All Odds 2005 - v. AJ Styles Iron Man Match (Unclipped)
March 11, 2005 iMPACT - v. Sabin (Unclipped)
Destination X 2005 - Ultimate X Challenge Match, Ultimate X portion featuring AJ Styles v. Christopher Daniels only (this portion is unclipped)
On Camera With Christopher Daniels #2
March 18, 2005 iMPACT - v. Jarrelle Clark (Unclipped)
Lockdown 2005 - v. "Primetime" Elix Skipper (Clipped)
Hard Justice 2005 - v. Shocker (Clipped)
Slammiversary 2005 - v. Chris Sabin v. Matt Bentley (Clipped)
June 22, 2005 iMPACT - v. "Primetime" Elix Skipper (Unclipped, commercial break)

"Bonuses" (if you want to call them that):
Early Match 1994, Windy City Wrestling - v. Danny Dominion
Fallen Angel Music Slideshow

I'm thinking this is a best of AJ Styles v. Christopher Daniels they way they edited this dvd.

Want my honest opinion on this? I wasted 25 dollars.
 
That's too bad because I heard Best Buy has it for 15.99.

If you ever want to turn it in NDX, some places do DVD trade-ins for cash.
 
hunter rider said:
The way i look at it is that he appears to be coming in with the right attitude,he is in good physical condition and isn't affraid to work stiff and im sure you know as well as me that with Vader he worked as stiff if not stiffer than Joe does.

Hunter rider, I have just about all of Sting and Vader's matches on tape. And yes they were very stiff. However, their last match was over 11 years ago. Sting was in his early 30's back then, not his mid-40's.

Now he is still unsure he can hack the pace but the fact he has the humility and lack of arrogance to admit that and isnt coming in with the flippant mindset that he can just do it again is a good thing as it shows he is thinking clearly but i really doubt he would show up if he really didn't believe he could carry his weight,he's just being cautious and humble, not digging any holes for himself which is smart

This is true, and that's very admirable at the very least. It sounds like he really wants to help TNA not himself, but TNA shouldn't shove their workers aside in favor of Sting.
 
TheVileOne said:
That's too bad because I heard Best Buy has it for 15.99.

If you ever want to turn it in NDX, some places do DVD trade-ins for cash.

I only bought it at FYE because I sold back cds about 10 minutes earlier for 60 dollars credit, so technically the dvd cost me nothing (the cds weren't mine, a neighbor threw them away and I profited). Plus the dvd just came out, so I doubt places will be buying it back just yet.

I am, however, contemplating returning it for store credit and just get something from WWE or whatever.

Oh, speaking of the dvds I found at FYE, if you are a Chris Candido or Al Snow fan, pick up NEW's Autumn Ambush. They have a great match on there where they spend the first half of it doing comedy spots, including a string of famous finishing moves by other wrestlers (Chris hulks up and Al does a peoples elbow that never ends).

TheVileOne said:
Hunter rider, I have just about all of Sting and Vader's matches on tape. And yes they were very stiff. However, their last match was over 11 years ago. Sting was in his early 30's back then, not his mid-40's.
Damn, I'd kill for a collection of those matches.

Sting sounds like he has the right intentions, but we won't know that until it actually happens.
 
NDX said:
Damn, I'd kill for a collection of those matches.

Sting sounds like he has the right intentions, but we won't know that until it actually happens.

It was actually a collection of taped compilated matches of Sting I bought off Ebay. Not an official release.

Those matches of Vader really were the best ones of his career. Sting and Vader really carried WCW through one of their worst periods.
 
TheVileOne said:
Hunter rider, I have just about all of Sting and Vader's matches on tape. And yes they were very stiff. However, their last match was over 11 years ago. Sting was in his early 30's back then, not his mid-40's.
Oh no doubt im just saying that it's been there in him and given what he said it sounds like he is gonna try and do what Funk did for ECW and mine the reserves,working hard and stiff is not as hard when you get older as say it is being a high flyer when your older



This is true, and that's very admirable at the very least. It sounds like he really wants to help TNA not himself, but TNA shouldn't shove their workers aside in favor of Sting.

Well this is where Sting has to be true to his word
 
TheVileOne said:
It was actually a collection of taped compilated matches of Sting I bought off Ebay. Not an official release.

Those matches of Vader really were the best ones of his career. Sting and Vader really carried WCW through one of their worst periods.

The best of Stings career or Vader's ?

I actually liked the 90-mid 94 period where those Sting/Vader matches happened,they had Steamboat.Simmons,Rude,Flair,Windham,The Hollywood Blondes,AA,Cactus and briefly Jake lol on the roster through that period

Mid 94 when Hogan came in was when production values went up but the best matches were shoved to the mid card as Hogan and sometimes Savage (who was awesome still) hogged the limelight
 
hunter rider said:
The best of Stings career or Vader's ?

Both really. Quite frankly I think its one of the best WCW feuds and series of matches they ever produced.

I actually liked the 90-mid 94 period where those Sting/Vader matches happened,they had Steamboat.Simmons,Rude,Flair,Windham,The Hollywood Blondes,AA,Cactus and briefly Jake lol on the roster through that period.

There was a lot of bad stuff mixed in. 1993 especially was a pretty abysmal year for WCW despite some of those few precious matches.

Mid 94 when Hogan came in was when production values went up but the best matches were shoved to the mid card as Hogan and sometimes Savage (who was awesome still) hogged the limelight

Yup, quality went down big time. Hogan brought in all his friends while talented higher mid-carders like Steve Austin were shoved aside before being fired. Before Hogan came there were actually plans of Flair feuding with Stunning Steve Austin for the world title.
 
TheVileOne said:
Both really. Quite frankly I think its one of the best WCW feuds and series of matches they ever produced.

I definitely agree that it was WCW's best feud,as for Vader his matches with Kobashi and Misawa in AJPW were pretty awesome as was his infamous "eye popping out" match with Hansen,i always wished he had been given a full feud with HBk instead of Sid in that 96/97 period



There was a lot of bad stuff mixed in. 1993 especially was a pretty abysmal year for WCW despite some of those few precious matches.

True but i can't remember a period when WCW was ever completely satisfactory but the matches in that period were better than the ones in the 5 years that followed IMO



Yup, quality went down big time. Hogan brought in all his friends while talented higher mid-carders like Steve Austin were shoved aside before being fired. Before Hogan came there were actually plans of Flair feuding with Stunning Steve Austin for the world title.

Yeah i read about that,out when the good workers,guys like Steamboat moved on and in came Brutus,The Nasty Boys and Earthquake
 

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