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Numerous difference perhaps... that are ALL MINUTE details in a fanmade CGI. A FANMADE CGI!... which you said looks NOTHING like anything on the road and I already proved is very much a modern Freightliner Argosy... in a FANMADE cheap CGI.

I staked no turf. You did.
 
Your idea of minute in the instance is laughable considering the way you harp on various aspects of this movie.
 
ragdus said:
Your idea of minute in the instance is laughable considering the way you harp on various aspects of this movie.

Your idea of "looks nothing like" as well. So we're even.

And P.S. ....
none of my gripes in the movie are about minute things (like the shape of a grill). They're broad... like turning Optimus Prime into a hillbilly Trick My Truck wet dream that looks a lot more like Rodimus than Optimus. That's broad.
 
CFlash said:
Nitpicking how a fanmade truck differs in minute details from a modern-day Freightliner Argosy HAS GOT TO BE WORSE than nitpicking about how Prime's truck mode in the movie doesn't look one iota like Prime. It just has to.


so you admit you are nitpicking
 
roach said:
so you admit you are nitpicking

If you'll admit the characters, devices, and story bears little resemblance to the Transformers we all know.
 
nosebleed said:
See what you started CFlash??? Dammit.

Go back. It started out as a neat discussion. Before Ragdus's OJ Trial Presentation.
 
CFlash said:
If you'll admit the characters, devices, and story bears little resemblance to the Transformers we all know.


in the words of our Lord..."You yourself have said it"
 
No we're not even. You're not in the right whatsoever in this argument. You can't concede you're wrong, so I understand your desire to at least call it a draw. But you'll get no such recognition from me.

Your negative opinions run the gamut for this movie, so I'm well aware you hate big and little things alike. What renders your opinions totally inept is that they lack consistency. You'll go on and on and on how this animated vehicle is perfect for your vision of optimus in this movie. But this movie is based on real vehicles. That vehicle is fake in every sense. It doesn't even accurately reflect in any way a real life rig out on the road right no. If you'd have left it at an Argosy being great, you'd be fine. But you have to keep insisting that poor excuse for Optimus that is that rendering is equally as good as an Argosy. And that's where you fall flat.

That truck is wrong in every way given the framework of the movie, but because you have decided it looks cool you will defend it to your last breath. But you'll also turn around and flame (pun intended) anyone who likes the design they are going to use in the movie.

I really don't mind that you have an incomprehensible opinion of this movie. I just choose not to let you get away with it in this case.

If this movie weren't based on real vehicles, I think the vehicle you like you be great for the film. I think the Argosy you like would be great for the film as it is now. I disagree with you that that vehicle in the rendering is even remotely exact to anything, much less an Argosy, and that it has absolutely no place in this film.
 
Ok, lemme get in on this.

If handled by an actual graphics studio instead of just a fan, the truck could be designed to look just like a Freightliner. The details Ragdus pointed out could easily be incorporated into a Freightliner body. Graphics studios get paid plenty of money to handle that issue. Point being, if they wanted to do it they could have...but they didn't want to so they didn't.
 
CFlash said:
Go back. It started out as a neat discussion. Before Ragdus's OJ Trial Presentation.

Yeah. I ruined this thread by taking you to task for something you said. Who am I to make to justify your erroneous opinion?

I apologize.
 
ragdus said:
No we're not even. You're not in the right whatsoever in this argument. You can't concede you're wrong, so I understand your desire to at least call it a draw. But you'll get no such recognition from me.

Your negative opinions run the gamut for this movie, so I'm well aware you hate big and little things alike. What renders your opinions totally inept is that they lack consistency. You'll go on and on and on how this animated vehicle is perfect for your vision of optimus in this movie. But this movie is based on real vehicles. That vehicle is fake in every sense. It doesn't even accurately reflect in any way a real life rig out on the road right no. If you'd have left it at an Argosy being great, you'd be fine. But you have to keep insisting that poor excuse for Optimus that is that rendering is equally as good as an Argosy. And that's where you fall flat.

That truck is wrong in every way given the framework of the movie, but because you have decided it looks cool you will defend it to your last breath. But you'll also turn around and flame (pun intended) anyone who likes the design they are going to use in the movie.

I really don't mind that you have an incomprehensible opinion of this movie. I just choose not to let you get away with it in this case.

If this movie weren't based on real vehicles, I think the vehicle you like you be great for the film. I think the Argosy you like would be great for the film as it is now. I disagree with you that that vehicle in the rendering is even remotely exact to anything, much less an Argosy, and that it has absolutely no place in this film.


hey buddy you are gonna bust a transistor
 
nosebleed said:
Ok, lemme get in on this.

If handled by an actual graphics studio instead of just a fan, the truck could be designed to look just like a Freightliner. The details Ragdus pointed out could easily be incorporated into a Freightliner body. Graphics studios get paid plenty of money to handle that issue. Point being, if they wanted to do it they could have...but they didn't want to so they didn't.


Actually, that's wrong. Things like the headlights and grill can be altered assuredly. But to have the top half of the front not only slope top to bottom, but from the center out to the edges, you'd have to redesign the structural skeleton on the Argosy. Modding the chassis of a semi isn't something most graphics facilities have to capability of doing.
 
What nosebleed said.

P.S.
And, yes, Ragdus, you can be a d*k if you want to be... but actually I agree with almost everything you just said in that diatribe. You're right... what I have consistently called "the fanmade CHEAP cgi" rendition has no place in a multimillion dollar movie. That wasn't the point I was making.
 
ragdus said:
Actually, that's wrong. Things like the headlights and grill can be altered assuredly. But to have the top half of the front not only slope top to bottom, but from the center out to the edges, you'd have to redesign the structural skeleton on the Argosy. Modding the chassis of a semi isn't something most graphics facilities have to capability of doing.

I'm not really sure what you're talking about...
but this is straight from the brochure.
argcabcfg.jpg
 
ragdus said:
Actually, that's wrong. Things like the headlights and grill can be altered assuredly. But to have the top half of the front not only slope top to bottom, but from the center out to the edges, you'd have to redesign the structural skeleton on the Argosy. Modding the chassis of a semi isn't something most graphics facilities have to capability of doing.

I seriously doubt that anything is not graphically possible nowadays. Where there is a good engineer...there is a way. If they can make a realistic Walther P-38 transform into a fairly faithful cartoon version of Megatron then why couldn't they do something similar with Optimus? And nobody is asking to redesign the real life truck...just redesign the CGI model.
 
I know nobody asked for that. I dispute Flash's claim that rendering would be better for the film for reasons already stated. i didn't claim a modded CGI version of an Argosy was beyond the realm of possibility.
 
ragdus said:
I know nobody asked for that. I dispute Flash's claim that rendering would be better for the film for reasons already stated. i didn't claim a modded CGI version of an Argosy was beyond the realm of possibility.

And a modded CGI version of an Argosy would better than the modded CGI flame-painted monster they're using in the film IMO.
 
See what lack of footage/leaks does to people...it makes us redundant.
 
nosebleed said:
See what lack of footage/leaks does to people...it makes us redundant.


we need some pics or something because we are just going in circles:woot:
 

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