Comics Official ULTIMATE X-MEN Discussion Thread

[usagicassidy]

We definitely need a new writer...haven't been able to read this since Bendis left...haven't liked BKV or Kirkman...give us someone else...hell, give us Singer, he'd do a better job than what's happening now!

 

[04nbod]

When was this said?

We definitely need a new writer...haven't been able to read this since Bendis left...haven't liked BKV or Kirkman...give us someone else...hell, give us Singer, he'd do a better job than what's happening now!

singers arc was due in january 2006- kirkman was a fill in. We should tie singer to a chair confiscate his superman toys and make him write

 

[javon]

When does #79 come out?

 

[Goddessreicho]

OH GOOD GAWD NO SINGER. NO NO NO. Haven't we learned already that he CANT handle the X-men as an ensemble. Jeesh. We are going to get the same thing that we did in the movies. He's only going to develop the characters he can identify with (Wolverine, Rogue, Iceman) ruin them, turn them into unrecognizable wanna be's of their already stinky Ultimate selves. Meanwhile every one else turns into power tools that that shoot power out and collect dust when it comes to storylines or plot.

Considering that all of that is highly ironic because his story is going to have barely any dialog or action.

Cyclops will either disappear or not do anything that doesn't make him look like an idiot. He may or may not get one shot of glory. Just don't blink you may miss it. Iceman will turn into a overly sensitive emo queen. Rogue will go from emo-black-hole into sex goddess. Jean will be annoying coy and generally soak up the majority of the storylines....oh wait, she already does. Be she'll be slowing down with Wolverine dry humping her leg constantly.

Storm, Kitty, and Colossus um will do nothing, STILL.

Kirkman put the breaks on UXM with his empty useless stories, Singer will put them in reverse.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

^Well Kitty will be leaving remember.

 

[Havok83]

at this point Id welcome anyone to write for Ult-Xmen. Well anyone but Milligan and Austen

 

[Bastila]

I have to read like the last kind of 3 issues last one I read was when Cable got here lol what number was that need to catch up.

 

[Havok83]

I have to read like the last kind of 3 issues last one I read was when Cable got here lol what number was that need to catch up.

issue 75

 

[El Bastardo]

at this point Id welcome anyone to write for Ult-Xmen. Well anyone but Milligan and Austen

I agree with Milligan. Milligan can die in the same fire I've got Kirkman scheduled to roast in. But I wouldn't mind Austen. People might have problems with his Uncanny run, but his Adjectiveless and Exiles runs were fun. At least I thought so.

 

[Horhey]

Since there seems to be a trend of movie and TV writers doing comics I vote James Cameron (Aliens, Terminator, T2, True Lies, Abys,) to take over UXM.

 

[Havok83]

I agree with Milligan. Milligan can die in the same fire I've got Kirkman scheduled to roast in. But I wouldn't mind Austen. People might have problems with his Uncanny run, but his Adjectiveless and Exiles runs were fun. At least I thought so.

Fourtunetly Austen's X-men run wasnt long. 2 arcs, 3 if you count the first which cleaned up the mess from the end of Morrison's. He already was on borrowed time. That short run though was pointless and made little sense like Kirkman. What was the purpose of that last incarnation of the Brotherhood? Just slapped a couple of villians together and that automatically equaled a story in his book. Was there really a reason to create another Xorn?

What is Joe Kelly doing these days? He was always my favorite X-men writer. Would love to see him tackle this title

 

[El Bastardo]

So what if there was no huge point to the last incarnation of the Brotherhood? The name's a joke now anyway, so why not make a joke out of forming them?
It was an arc where the entire point was a fight. And even if there was no point to the arc at all, it was still cooler and more entertaining than Date Night, and with better art, so it beats Kirkman out there.

Always choose the lesser of two evils.

The creation of a second Xorn, not to mention the invisible "friend" in the back of that nurse's car, and whatever else... had Austen stayed on, it might have been better. Had a writer better than Milligan come on after, it might have been better.

As we have established, this is not quite the case with what Kirkman is doing with Ultimate. Again, lesser of two evils.

 

[flavio_lebeau]

I just got into ultimate and read Return of The King and Ultimate War: wooooooooooooooooooooooow.

 

[Havok83]

So what if there was no huge point to the last incarnation of the Brotherhood? The name's a joke now anyway, so why not make a joke out of forming them?
It was an arc where the entire point was a fight. And even if there was no point to the arc at all, it was still cooler and more entertaining than Date Night, and with better art, so it beats Kirkman out there.

Always choose the lesser of two evils.

The creation of a second Xorn, not to mention the invisible "friend" in the back of that nurse's car, and whatever else... had Austen stayed on, it might have been better. Had a writer better than Milligan come on after, it might have been better.

As we have established, this is not quite the case with what Kirkman is doing with Ultimate. Again, lesser of two evils.

Why cant we just get a good writer? Why do we have to settle for the lesser of two evils? Choosing between Kirkman and Austen is like choosing between crap and poop. At the end of the day Im still left with sh-t

 

[Colossal Spoons]

The creation of a second Xorn, not to mention the invisible "friend" in the back of that nurse's car, and whatever else... had Austen stayed on, it might have been better. Had a writer better than Milligan come on after, it might have been better.

Yeeeaaaah, whatever happened with that

 

[Havok83]

Yeeeaaaah, whatever happened with that

I think I read that was supposed to be Cassandra Nova. Thank goodness he didnt stay long enough to further touch and mess up even more of Morrison's plots

 

[Generation Lee]

You defended none of the problems we have with Kirkman, so in response to your rant...Kirkman still sucks.

Spoons sorry you pick the rant up wrong. I'm not overly happy with Kirkman but what I'm getting at is for months now this board has foucsed on all the bad he's done I'm trying to see if there are positives comming out of his arcs.

 

[El Bastardo]

We've focused on the negatives because they overshadow any of the positives. This goes back to some of what I said in my post, which I do believe Spoons quoted. Read it.

And if you're so worried that we're not looking at any positives, why don't you post what you think the positives are, and we pessimists shall do our best to dethrone them?

General statements suck.

 

[The Comedian]

This comic just seems to keep setting up plots with no intention of completing them. We never find for sure who Cable or Bishop are, why Xavier has to die, whether or not Jean is the Phoenix, what's up with Sinister and Apocalypse, whether Sabretooth is Wolvie's son, whatever is up with Magneto and the Brotherhood, what's happening at Emma Frost's school, why Nightcrawler is f***ed up in the head, etc.

Just once, I'd like an arc with SOME kind of resolution to the story.

 

[Kahoot]

When was this said?

2004
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117907935.html?categoryid=1019&cs=1&query="bryan+singer"+Ultimate

 

[usagicassidy]

...He's only going to develop the characters he can identify with (Wolverine, Rogue, Iceman)...Storm, Kitty, and Colossus um will do nothing, STILL.

Well...then by your logic, wouldn't Colossus do a lot of something, because he can identify with him?

 

[Goddessreicho]

Well...then by your logic, wouldn't Colossus do a lot of something, because he can identify with him?

And by your logic he can also identify with Kitty (if she's still there) by being Jewish (which Singer is), or with Ororo and not growing up with her parents (He too didn't grow up with his birth parents. He's adopted, Ororo's parents were killed.), or Iceman's feelings being inadequate (He's said several times in interviews that he didn't fit in and blah blah blah).

Will we see any of that? Considering that he had TWO chances to give us that in the movies and failed (The last thing I ever want to see again is Drama Queen Bobby), well I am not going to sit around and wait for him to boink it up again.

 

[04nbod]

well ultimate is based around the tone and characters his film created. bobby had a heart to heart with scott last issue- so in your opinion thats emo. i guy expresses his feelings and he should be considered less of a man for it? I do agree that jean and logan should not be the focus. but storm has been ignored for most of kirkman's run anyway- will singer ignoring her make any difference?

 

[Goddessreicho]

well ultimate is based around the tone and characters his film created. bobby had a heart to heart with scott last issue- so in your opinion thats emo. i guy expresses his feelings and he should be considered less of a man for it? I do agree that jean and logan should not be the focus. but storm has been ignored for most of kirkman's run anyway- will singer ignoring her make any difference?

Woah, I read 77 and there was no heart to heart between Cyke and Bobby. Besides there's a stark difference between a good conversation and being an overly sensitive emotional black hole.

Can a man express his feelings, sure. I believe there's a time and a place for everything, and nothing should ever be over done. That's the problem with Singer's X-men. For a professional writer he doesn't know how to balance an ensemble well. A few of his characters get over dramatized and others get ignored and dusty. Although it's an ugly trend that has been picked up upon ever since people thought that the movies were well made.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Spoons sorry you pick the rant up wrong. I'm not overly happy with Kirkman but what I'm getting at is for months now this board has foucsed on all the bad he's done I'm trying to see if there are positives comming out of his arcs.

I really can't think of one good thing Kirkman has done. I'm not sayign there are none and maybe you can point some out, but none come to mind. Add that to Oliver's art, and you have one painful run on this book.