The Amazing Spider-Man Official Villian Casting & Discussion Thread

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea but Sandman sucked.

 

[SP1D3RxV3N0M]

You lost me at the Electro creation...

 

[SP1D3RxV3N0M]

Yea but Sandman sucked.

Not visually. The story was just underdeveloped, they shoul have used the other ending.

 

[SpideyTheBest]

No to all of this...

I was being sarcastic actually. Sorry.

 

[SymbioticToxin]

Sandman, to me, was like New Goblin and Venom in that movie. They had the potential to be great movie villains and bring some ass-kickery to the films. But they were underdeveloped, poorly handled, and they had alot of fixed stuff. Like Sandman being uncle ben's killer and him being sympathetic. The sandman I know isn't like that. He's a thug with powers who goes super-villain. New Goblin was just kinda...eh. Venom...we ain't gonna go there. I don't think you guys want my rant with him. I'll make enemies and you'll all probably get a headache.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Not visually. The story was just underdeveloped, they shoul have used the other ending.

Yea visually he was great. And the characterization was good, but wrong IMO. They shouldn't of linked him to Uncle Ben and all that, what was the point of that?

 

[venom892]

Really the point was to have another villain connected to peter.With Green Goblin it was necessary,With Doc Ock it worked but with Sandman it just felt forced as hell.

 

[Hobgoblin]

See this would actually work, and allow for a different take then simply Spidey getting beaten up by two different baddies that both want the same thing: Spidey dead. There'd be a deeper level to it.

You could even have J. Jonah or someone be the one that digs up Kraven after Lizard starts tearing up the town.

I know some folks on here want the Last Hunt storyline, but I feel like that'd be a complete drudgery of a film. It's long-winded, the bad guy wins (for all intents and purposes), and there's a suicide at the end. After the train-wreck that was Spidey 3, lets not take risks and put this on film. While the comic arc was highly commended (I still despise it), it just doesn't translate to film well.

All in all, I'm somewhat interested in Raimi's take on Morbius. He liked Sandman, and really nailed a good film adaptation of the character, I thought. He likes Morbius, so...

Kraven's Last Hunt is my favorite story but I agree with the rest of your post (ok, not Morbius). I like the deeper aspect of Peter trying to help Connors, despite Lizard being a lot more vicious than a lot of Spidey's foes. The idea of JJJ calling in Kraven is a sound one, as it was Jameson that called on Spider-Man to defeat the Lizard back in ASM #6. Have Kraven be an older hunter, desperate for the chance to prove he still has what it takes to be a major big game hunter. Spider-Man getting in the way of his trophy just makes the hunt all the more satisfying after he gets his Lizard.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Go ahead Venom'sDad; I'm curious.

I would like to see HobGoblin on screen. He's my favorite villian. I wouldn't mind seeing all that happen if it was done right. I'm still a little upset with the non-character development in SM3.

Well 2287, I’m not sure I can bring to life exactly what I envision; however I’ll try, so bare with me.

First, Peter & MJ. Sam in my opinion has ruin these two… not to the point they can’t be fixed; but, he has to do 180° from what he has established. With that said, and since we are not talking about a teenage Peter & MJ; but, a much older and supposedly mature young adult… I say let them act that way. Get away from the drab and let the two be fun-loving young adults. Peter is doing fairly well financially because of the Bugle’s demand for ever more photos of Spiderman. MJ is doing well because she lands a supporting role on a favorite soap; allowing her to become the MJ from the comics… smart, witty, sensual, fun, and secure in her friendship with Peter. Yes, friendship! They have to start over on the right foot this time, with no grand expectations, allowing both to maybe flirt with other supporting characters to be introduce and still harboring feeling and being flirtatious with one another. Simultaneously removing the “it’s about a girl” angle a little, and removing the idea of MJ consistently being threaten(kidnapped). Quite frankly, it’s time to let MJ move on somewhat and live her life.

As for the alter-ego, Spiderman… get a comedic coach in there, to work with Tobey, on how to deliver arrogant and witty quips; so we can start enjoying some of the personality of Spiderman a lot more. Sam needs to incorporate a few narrations from Tobey during scenes where Spidey is just swinging throughout the city or perched on the corner atop a building, architecture, or steeple.

Now, as for the villains… I’ve mention Lizard, Kraven, Carnage, and Kingsley… so bare with me, I’m not sure I can do justice with how I envision this. There are two stories going on here… the threat now and the threat of the future. The story does get a little dark, as there are some killings; but nothing requiring a R-rating, because we know Sony is not going for that. However, the killings are highly implied, as suggested in Spider-Man 2 hospital scene.

First the future threat and side plot. I would open with Spidey narrating about Harry’s death and him & MJ friendship and their new outlook on life; as he is chasing down three “professional criminals”… one who may one day become a villain. In the middle of his narration, we hear in the background of breaking news of two inmates escaping while being transferred to a death row holding facility. The opening scene chase leads to Empire State Univ. Genetics Lab headed by Miles Warren. In the criminals attempt to escape, needless to say, they knock over experiments, tables, and equipment, trying to escape from Spidey. One thing subtlety knocked over was the vial containing the Symbiote, that has attached itself to one of the criminal‘s jacket… the only one to get away. The other two are nabbed and webbed by Spidey. The other one takes his jacket and mask off and discard it in an alley dumpster, and walk away scot-free.

As we follow the story throughout the film, the audience, with the help of great writing, slowly discover that someone is financing “professionals criminals” in highly classified theft of secrets & technologies from both Qwest & Oscorps Industries, while Oscorps is facing a hostel takeover bid from Rodderick Kingsley. I know Qwest was undone by the Green Goblin, but they still possess highly classified secrets, data, and prototype designs. This is like an intrigue mystery plot that involve Jason Macedale as one of the “professional criminal” and Ned Leeds as an “investigative reporter” following the rash of classified thefts. So the audience is kept guessing who may emerge as the HobGoblin in a possible future film… because all three(Jason, Ned, and Rodderick) are acting very suspicious.
As for the threat now and main plot, we discover three days after the opening events, that ESU have been facing budget cuts for the last two quarters and because Oscorps is not making donations to the university pending the hostel takeover; the research budget will be cut a third without any major progress and/or findings… pressuring Miles and Connors research, which has taken a set back because of the events to the lab three days ago.

Up against time Miles, Connors, assistants Peter, Debra Whitman, makes a promising discover amongst the chaos in the lab. As the others call it a night, an anxious Dr. Connors looks further into this promising result. The next morning, terrifying news is reported of a brutal homicide never before seen in NYC. The same morning, Peter gets word that two ESU student found Dr. Connors collapse on the lab floor. So Pete and Debra rush to see Martha at the hospital as she waits for Curt to be release. She informed the two, he never came home. Of course, Peter at first think nothing of it, other than he collapse because of exhaustion & stress. On the other hand, Warren, back at the lab, suspect something; but not sure what he seeing. Peter runs off to meet with MJ.

That afternoon, Debra catches Pete eating lunch with MJ and inform him that Connors has return to the lab acting strange. Being concern, Pete wants to go with Debra and check on Curt; and MJ, being the MJ we know from the comics, in a flirtatious way, encourage him to go. Remember the are just good, close friends at this point, trying to move on; but still have a thing for each other. Once they get there, Warren pulls the two to the side and suggest that he believe Connors may have tested the experimental serums on himself and explain that maybe the cause of his irrational behavior and blackout. Peter suddenly recognize that Curt’s limb(nub) is longer than normal.

Later, on the evening news, a couple is reported missing, completely vanished. Later that night, Peter get a call from Debra as she explain that Martha called Warren in a hysterical fit, that Curt was act irrationally. Peter rush over to the Connors home, but Curt is gone. Warren and the Police is there when Peter arrive. Martha explained, Curt would not unlock the door as she heard banging, loud noises & screams, and shattered glass. When police kick the door in, he was gone, with a hole in the backyard wall where the window use to be. Warren gather some bloody mucus from the bedding & floor and heads back to the lab… Peter changes into Spidey mode looking for Dr. Connors to no avail.

Two construction workers working in the sewers notice a herd of rats, water bugs, and other creepy-crawly things racing away in the same direction. The workers become very concern. They hear something that alerts them. One see a strange and huge shadow approaching and scrambles out the sewer; the other follow behind but is grab by the leg and yanked down… disappears. Stacy is at the scene with NY Finest as the worker explains what happen. Word filter on the dispatch that the other worker has been found… alive. Stacy rush to where the worker was found. He is covered with mucus and saliva; but, virtually unharmed and in shock.


As the police wrap up it the investigation, dispatcher report a group of girls had been reported brutally killed with one remarkably survives. Concern, Stacy put the force on notice to patrol the city. The following morning, reports start circulating around the bugle that the bodies of the missing couple has been found butchered. NYC is now living in fear terror.
Later that night, some gang members reported seeing something at a high-rise apartment complex. Minutes later, 911 is blowing up with calls at the 911 hotline center. Many police are dispatched to the scene. Spidey not knowing what’s up, follow the flood of sirens to the scene… when he run smack into the Lizard, while the flood of sirens continue on up Broadway to some designated location. Spidey is in a big battle scene with the Lizard and get some un-focus pictures. Three people witness the battle and are stunned, but not sure what they are seeing given how quickly the event transpired… one being investigative reporter, Ned Leeds, who happen to be at that spot investigating a lead at an old Oscorps warehouse. Spidey takes a bad beating and Lizard is too fast and strong. A good whip of the tail and Lizard gets away. Spidey is left bruised and torn.

The next morning, reports is all over about Spidey battling an alleged Lizard-Man, as Jameson and Co. does their naming bit… Lizard-Man, Man-Lizard, the Reptilian, Geico, Crocodile Dun-Dee; before settling on the Lizard. The Bugle also report on another victim found at the location the police was dispatched to... the high-rise apartment complex. Other than the two alleged witnesses and Ned, no one has seen this beast and the three witnesses are still not sure exactly what they saw. MJ goes to see how Peter is doing after hearing of his battle with this alleged giant Lizard. Peter tells MJ he wonders why the Lizard didn’t shred him to pieces like his other victims. MJ suggest things are not always what they appear to be.
Of course reports catches Sergei attention, and he’s heading to NYC to capture both this alleged giant Lizard & Spiderman. Pete, after getting chastise by Jameson for his useless, out of focus pictures of something & Spidey’s battle, leaves and go visits Aunt May. Jameson ask Ned what was he doing at Oscorps warehouse? NYC is living in fear of the this alleged Lizard and brutal murders. At Aunt May’s place, while she is talking and preparing something to eat, Peter examines his pictures closely and then replay the encounter with Lizard in his mind; reached the conclusion that was Dr. Connors somehow, and rush out Aunt May’s apartment while she’s continue talking and preparing something to eat.

Pete inform Warren of his suspension. Warren concur with his own suspensions. Suggesting the serum didn’t take full effect when he first collapse; but could now be full blown. Warren also suggest on animal testing, minor transformation and erratic behavior happens when the animals are in a deep meditated sleep when an enzyme for digestion is activated when the body is at rest. Warren believe the mix of the serum on the enzyme cause the genetic fingerprint of the test animals to slightly mutate; but nothing on the level that Connors is experiencing. He suggest attaining and comparing a sample of Connor’s blood, to blood found in the mucus sample and compare the levels… maybe produce a counter-serum. It would be explain later how Warren had a sample of Connors blood already on hand later.

Peter is on the hunt for Lizard, when out of the blue, he become the hunted… by Kraven. An amazing battle ensues! Spidey is at a loss to who this is and why he is after him. Kraven counters everything Spidey dishes… suddenly his spider-sense tingle, and he just dodges a huge Lion that leaped at him out of nowhere. The lion is just as skilled and cunning. Spiderman spots an opportunity and uses his agility & speed to turn the tables on this Lion and his Master. Setting the two up for a collision upon themselves… Spidey get away amazingly; but again, on the pursuit of the Lizard.

While perched on the side of a six story apartment building, scanning the city, narrating how he must stop Connors before he harms another person, why Lizard didn’t kill him, the sewer worker, and Martha, but kill everyone else, and who the person with the Lion was. Spidey overhears a breaking news report of another frightening sighting in uptown just moments ago and police is in route to that location. Just as Spidey begin to head to that location his spider-sense tingle… it’s the Lion leaping towards Spidey, but really at the Lizard who has creped up behind him. Kraven throws a bolas at Spidey, capturing him and hanging him upside down by the ankles with his hands tied, and with a sinister grin, continues on after the Lizard.

As Spidey frees his hands he get a phone call from Warren who believes he’s talking to Peter, saying that he believe the serum will run it’s course. The effects only last a number of days. He said he has been to the coroner to examine some of the bodies… none of them have a trace of the enzyme found in the Lizards mucus or DNA; but have traces of a residue similar to the Symbiote he had stored in the broken vial. Peter tells Warren, he believe Connors may not be responsible for those murders and Warren concur. Peter lets Warren go and proceed to free himself and go after Kraven and Lizard when we hears another breaking report; “One of the two death-row inmates has been captured at an abandoned warehouse; but, serial killer Cletus Kasady is still at large. The two death-row inmates overpowered a transport detail near the ESU campus days ago en-route to a new facility waiting execution.”

Spidey, now free, quickly find Lizard and Kraven embroil in a tough battle. Lizard is becoming weaken as the serum began to wear and Kraven tranquilize him. Lizard however, is still strong enough to avoid Kraven skillful capture. The combination of Kraven and his skillful companion began to wear on the ever weakening Lizard… as Kraven & the Lion move in to finally subdue Lizard. The table turn against Kraven as Spidey unexpectedly intervenes and tackles the Lion, both falling onto the roof top of an adjacent building. As Kraven moves in on the kill, Spidey wrestles with the Lion and quickly subdue him in a cocoon of webbing. A weaken Lizard begins to collapse as Kraven moves in for the kill. In slow-motion “Matrix” style, Kraven with two hands on a huge dagger dives at the collapsing Lizard, ready to end the transforming Lizard, as Spiderman in a niche of time, tackles Kraven and the two roll off a roof top and land on a parked car, as the two continue to battles. Kraven’s potion begins to wear off itself and Spidey eventually makes quick work of him hanging him upside-down, commenting, “feel the rush?”

Spidey ask who he is and why he’s after them. Kraven implies that he’s ridding the City of New York of it’s fears. Spidey pleads with Kraven to let the Lizard go, without naming Connors, tells Kraven that the Lizard is a human being with a wife & child; the result of a failed experiment gone wrong, and that the serum is wearing off. Remembering his struggles with the Symbiote, Venom, Spidey ask Kraven’s help in stopping the real perpetrator of the city’s fears, Kasady. Whom Peter believe has the missing Symbiote. Kraven agrees to end his pursuit of the man responsible of becoming the Lizard; but will not agree to end his pursuit of him, Spiderman. Kraven secretly relish the opportunity to observe and make a quick study of Spiderman, and agrees to help him stop this man of so much “Carnage”.

After Spidey releases Kraven’s Lion from his cocoon bondage, Kraven give new commands to his trusted companion to hunt Carnage; as Kraven takes another dose of potion that does not go unnoticed by Spidey. He calls Debra and tells Debra where she can find Dr. Connors and take him to Prof. Warren... he will know what to do.

Spidey and Kraven goes after Carnage. Big battle ensues! Carnage is having his way with them. Than the tables turn for the worst… Carnage manage to get his hand on the Lion and badly wounds the animal. Kraven in a brazen rage, goes after Carnage very un-tactical. Carnage delivers a brutal beating of Kraven. Carnage counters Spidey’s every move like second nature… until the police shows up why blazing sirens. Spidey is suddenly reminded how to defeat Carnage and instruct Kraven to blow his dog whistle that’s around his neck. The blast momentarily inhibits Carnage long enough for Kraven to do some major damage and tranquilize Kasady as the Symbiote tries to leap on Spidey… Spidey capture it in a webbed sack. Kraven torches it. Kraven quickly tends to his falling companion as a helicopter picks him and his wounded comrade up. Kraven shouts out to Spiderman, “we shall see you again”.

Because no one had actually proof that the Lizard exist, it was taken as just a big hoax, urban legend, and Kasady, rightly so, was blamed for all of the brutal mutilations. He is a serial killer after all; so the public welcomes the idea it was him and not some mythical beast hiding in the shadows. Everything is back to normal. A cliffhanger shows Rodderick toasting his successful acquisition of Oscorps. As the glasses are raised, we see a pumpkin bomb hurling towards a warehouse. Explosion!

Something similar to that, but I'm sure Sam would do something very different. That's how I would do it at least.

 

[iamlegend]

:cough: Sandman didn't want Spidey dead

Which is why he tried so hard to kill him in the final fight scene...

While "killing Spider-Man" obviously wasn't his go-to motive, it was something he was resigned to doing for his family's safety.

And while I know the depiction wasn't really what comic Sandman was, I like the adaptation. I have no problem tweaking characters a bit. The tie to Uncle Ben was a way to make the series full circle I think... and it epically failed. Take that part out and leave the rest of Sandman as is, and he looks a lot better.

 

[Hectorminator]

The Kingpin is a great villain, an ideal concept of corruption and power, but he should belong to Daredevil's rogues, imo. Though I can see an nice alternative in the Big Man, I still rather Kingpin. If we can't have the Kingpin in true form, then I don't want to see any other variation.

If they bring back Norman Osborn from the dead, he could serve as the ultimate concept of corruption and power, as he appears in the comics today.

He's like Spider-Man's "Kingpin", because Fisk did move over to Daredevil's rogues list, and Fisk belongs there.

I feel they should bring back Osborn in the next movie in a puppet-master role, behind the scenes and not directly confronting Spider-Man/Peter Parker until a later movie (Spider-Man 6) as the full-on Green Goblin. They should focus on other villains for the time being (Lizard and Kraven), but they should make an effort to bring back Norman Osborn to utilize him to his full potential later.

 

[Mutagen]

If they bring back Norman Osborn from the dead, he could serve as the ultimate concept of corruption and power, as he appears in the comics today.

He's like Spider-Man's "Kingpin", because Fisk did move over to Daredevil's rogues list, and Fisk belongs there.

I feel they should bring back Osborn in the next movie in a puppet-master role, behind the scenes and not directly confronting Spider-Man/Peter Parker until a later movie (Spider-Man 6) as the full-on Green Goblin. They should focus on other villains for the time being (Lizard and Kraven), but they should make an effort to bring back Norman Osborn to utilize him to his full potential later.

It would certainly be interesting, I would like to see it, but I doubt it would happen.

 

[iamlegend]

If they bring back Norman Osborn from the dead, he could serve as the ultimate concept of corruption and power, as he appears in the comics today.

He's like Spider-Man's "Kingpin", because Fisk did move over to Daredevil's rogues list, and Fisk belongs there.

I feel they should bring back Osborn in the next movie in a puppet-master role, behind the scenes and not directly confronting Spider-Man/Peter Parker until a later movie (Spider-Man 6) as the full-on Green Goblin. They should focus on other villains for the time being (Lizard and Kraven), but they should make an effort to bring back Norman Osborn to utilize him to his full potential later.

NO RESURRECTIONS.

Please. It's bad enough when they bring people back from the dead in the comics. Lets not do it in the films. Hell, if you bring him back from the dead you might as well shack him up with Gwen Stacy and then have Mephisto erase the evidence that Peter Parker is Spider-Man...

 

[HughJackFan420]

for Spidey 4 either Lizard & Carnage or Lizard and Electro either way they should have a cliffhanger for Venom b/c they did him wrong in the 3rd one for him to return in 5

 

[Minus Shock]

Well 2287, I’m not sure I can bring to life exactly what I envision; however I’ll try, so bare with me.......

That is the longest post ever. But it was a pretty good read, really well thought out, so props for that sir. I personally would rather go with Mysterio as the main villain in the picture, and for some reason I always liked the idea of Electro and Shocker in the same movie, but I would prefer if there was only one villain focused on in a movie. Unless its a case where two villains are working together from the get go, or establishment of their villainous. The cheesy, two completely different villains crossing in the last 3/4 of the movie and partnering up is kinda lame. So if two, or more villains is a must, have the partnership be from the beginning.

I think DK worked so well because Joker doesnt really have a back story, I mean they showed us that the guy is insane, but that doesn't take as long as it did to set up Harvey Dent. Now... I dont want SM to be DK because the characters are different, but story wise DK worked so well because you were able to cut to the action with Joker, while establishing Harvey Dent for half the movie, part of this is because Joker has never had a firm origin (which I love and works best for the character) but I can work for Spider-man just as well as long as people realize that we dont HAVE to have the backstory on every villain.

I think Mysterio is best suited for the first villain. The villain Spidey deals with first. Because while all the Mysterio action is going on we can set up the next villain, which could be Lizard or anyone really... That Morbius article it says Sam doesn't really like Lizard, and nor do I, so any other villain would be great for me.

To me though, thats the biggest thing that is important. If you want a villain with history, origin, and back story, stick with one villain, if you want to have two villains on screen then pick the most stimulating villain to establish during the movie, and pick a more fun, flashy style villain for the decoy.

If you think about it, Joker was amazing, and diabolical in DK, but the real heart of the story was with Dent/Two Face. It's kind of like a rope-a-dope. You show us this menacing person who we think is going to be the big show down from previews and early on in the movie, but we dont realize that the real villain is someone that hits closer to home, and the story. That's what SM3 lacked. I mean yeah, Marko was outed as the actual killer, but it was no where epic enough for me. There was no huge revelation at the end.

So in closing.... if you want a real great complex villain, stick with one. All the ones I hear to be favorites, Lizzard and Kraven seem to me like they have a good story to tell... which means putting both in the movie together will really hurt the story telling for everyone, cause it will limit it.

Afterthought: Or throw in a lot of throw away villains so it seems like Spidey is really taxed, and getting worn out and then have the huge crap storm hit the fan, so with a huge amount of work he is doing taking out these mid level villains, this huge thing is working its way out by movies end to attack him just when he's almost fully worn out. That would be cool. I have gotten too much out of Spidey to really give an example as far as characters go, and I dont want to upset fans by any means due to my ignorance but that would be cool to me. That way you get to see some fan favorites, but you wouldnt have to really establish a lot of them. Just Spidey crashing in on everyday villains, while the epic villain lurks to crash Spidey.

I know that if you look at all the villains in Spidey's arsenal they all have a great origin, or most do anyway... but this movie may not be the time to tell it... just because they are in this movie for however long doesn't mean they can, or shouldn't come back for another sequel, but their purposes can be best served right now to move story along. Think about in the comics how often a decent popular villain is used just to get to the bigger picture.

So maybe use Electro, Scorpion, Shocker or whoever without getting terribly in depth right now... just put them out as eye candy and come back when they best serve a story ya know? Just saying that's one way of doing it.

 

[Venom'sDad]

That is the longest post ever. But it was a pretty good read, really well thought out, so props for that sir. I personally would rather go with Mysterio as the main villain

Thanks Minus Shock, I apprciate it. I know the long post will probably discourage people from reading it; but, I didn't think I could properly convey my vision with an outline. Glad you enjoyed it, and really hope more people will just take 4 minutes of their time to read it... it is a very good, suspenseful read. I think it will convey mostly my desire I wish to see in a Spiderman film and support many of my opinions I have express in past threads against Sam Raimi adaption. So, thanks again.

If you check out my sig, you will see link to other material I've written... mainly the Spidey Trailer. One of the villains in it is Mysterio. Many have had a hard time picking out the villains, which was the point of a the trailer... as to not give much away and leave the audience in suspense. Anyway, I probably need to "edit" it and announce exactly who the villains are.

As far as your post... I agree with some of the points you've made. I just think those ideas would work better under a new team, compared to Sam, Tobey, & Co. They have pretty much established the vibe, flow, and personalities of the franchise under Sam's direction.

 

[Minus Shock]

As far as your post... I agree with some of the points you've made. I just think those ideas would work better under a new team, compared to Sam, Tobey, & Co. They have pretty much established the vibe, flow, and personalities of the franchise under Sam's direction.

I think we both agree that we would both do things differently than how Sam, or even you or I would. I think as long as the common denominator is a mind stimulating and intriguing story then the specific details don't so much matter. I have to say that I have faith that after being pushed into using a villain he didn't know anything about in the third that Sam will stay in his comfort zone or tell sony to go jump off a cliff this time around. Which means we will get Raimi back, and not the Sony Mind Control Raimi we had in 3. If 4 can be at least as good as SM2 then I will be ecstatic.

If there is anything that people should be paying attention to DK for it is this. To my knowledge, which may not be much, Nolan and company were primarily left to do their own thing and they got a stellar product. Studios need to keep their noses out of things they dont understand and let the story tellers work the screen. That is the key to success. Studio Execs and such are there for a reason. Let people create genius and reap the rewards.... Execs and such aren't writers or directors, so they need to stop pretending to be.

That's my two cents.

 

[Menthol]

I say forget Kraven and Lizard. Raimi hinted at vampires being in Spiderman 4. So I'm saying Zachary Quinto (Spock) for Morbius:

And of course I had to do a manip of him in full on vamp mode:

Not that great of a manip, but I think he's a shoe in for Michael Morbius.

 

[SpeterMan3]

I think my homie right here wiould be a better Morbius...

Hey, his name's already Michael.

 

[SP1D3RxV3N0M]

I think my homie right here wiould be a better Morbius...

Hey, his name's already Michael.

 

[david icke]

Said this before on an old thread, but I havent chnaged my mind.

The Vulture and the Lizard. I think Spidey should have a flying villan in 4, teh fight with new Goblin showed us just the beginnings of what could be done onscreen with a flying villan.
Bring in the Vulture just as he was in the comics, an inventor/scientist out to steal money using his invention, maybe even just have him as a thief who stole the flight tech by dumb luck. Anyway, don't give much backstory to teh Vulture, a thief who can fly, pure and simple. Have Spidey fight the Vulture while the Conners backstory takes shape. The Vulture escapes Spidey only just managing to get away, and then the Lizard breaks loose.
Have Spidey trying to take down the Lizard while protecting him from the cops/army. The Vulture makes his move for revenge during the height of this battle. So Spidey is fighting a war on 3 fronts, vs Lizard, vs Vulture, vs cops who are trying to kill Conners.
It would be good to have the Conners side subconciously coming through the Lizard and have him save Spidey from the Vulture during the battle when Spidey is at his lowest (w)ebb. Not too much though, still have him acting like a big Lizard intent on world domination when he does it.

 

[StarkTheProdigy]

vulture would be cool, i'd love to see more air combat

 

[Superhero 101]

Here is a little statement from from Todd Black Sony Producer "We're just coming up with who the villain's going to be now. We'll be shooting in New York again. Trust me, people will appreciate who we pick, because it'll be a big part of New York."

well i think since he says a big part of New York it will probably be Electro because we all know that if he is in there the fight will take place in Times Square and that is a huge part of New York.

 

[protocida]

A big part of N.Y.

Foreign villains are rulled out?

 

[LegendaryCaleb]

I'd like to see Mysterio...cuz there could be so many things he could do and hed be a very tricky villian and if he brings back illusions of green goblin or venom itd make it even more awesome...