The Amazing Spider-Man Official Villian Casting & Discussion Thread

[BrollySupersj]

The costume/weapons design for New Goblin works as thugs or hench men the Green Goblin would use, if you ask me.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Id like to talk about Venom...

What did they do to him? Hes the size of The Undertaker in the comics...in the Movie...Rey Mysterio,ugh.

 

[BrollySupersj]

Id like to talk about Venom...

What did they do to him? Hes the size of The Undertaker in the comics...in the Movie...Rey Mysterio,ugh.

They pretty much wanted to make him Spider-Man's equal. That's why he's roughly the same as Spider-Man.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Thats the official story.

Truth is that they couldnt be assed making him big and powerful. He was specifically made smaller so that Spider-Man didnt have much as a challenge as he had with Sandman and not as epic.

Venom is one of the greatest villains of all time and they disrespected that.

 

[Oscorp]

Thats the official story.

Truth is that they couldnt be assed making him big and powerful. He was specifically made smaller so that Spider-Man didnt have much as a challenge as he had with Sandman and not as epic.

Venom is one of the greatest villains of all time and they disrespected that.

One of the most overrated I would say.

EDIT: So you don't think they disrespected Green Goblin more by killing him off in the origin movie? You don't think they disrespected Doc Ock more by making him controlled by his mechanical arms?

Even though Venom was not as big as he maybe should be, and even though he was given the least amount of time, he was done alot more justice given his character imo.

 

[Rodrigo90]

But he sounded like a Parrot...He was small...sounded like a Parrot...the humanity.lol

 

[BrollySupersj]

Well, it's been two years, I'd say it's time to get over it, and move on.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Youre right. Lets just put that behind us. Moving on to new villains. Wasnt Sam going to use Vulture in Spider-Man 2? Do you think he'll pick up on that again?

 

[Spider-Fan83]

It's less of a leap of logic to think it did, than to think it didn't.

you do get that I was saying that jokingly, right
(though, something like that, probably would need to be custom fitted to the individual wearer)

but, if you really want someone to blame for them not using the same suit, blame the fans who all complained about how they didn't like the suit from the first one

 

[anrrd_2]

^ never did understand the complaing about GG's suit in SM1. i thought it was perfect! did people really expect the suit to be nothing more than a halloween costume? that would have insured that the movie would have been mediocre at best. and that would mean no SM2, or Iron Man. The whole comicbook movie renaissance was born because of the success of Spiderman and X-men... if even one of them had failed we almost certainly would not have been given watchmen of the nolan batman films. The comic book genre would have ended in a slow painful death at the hands of "Batman and Robin" and "Nick Fury: Agent of Shield"...

...all that just because Green Goblin didn't have the armoured suit. A little over dramatic? possibly. but i stand by it

 

[ThatDamnNinja]

I'm in the middle. I know the comic book costume would not have worked. But the movie costume, at least the mask, was stupid.

Obviously, it would be out of the question NOT to give him armor. Fine, give him armor. But also, bring some purple into the costume, and honestly, with the face, I don't care if it's illogical, give him a combination of makeup and prosthetics to make him LOOK like the Green Goblin, and so he can actually talk, and it will be clear, visually, that he's talking.

It'd be a bit like the masks in Mission: Impossible 2 in the sense of being masks that are basically grafted onto your face, and to take it off, you'd peel it away. That's basically how it is in the comics. He puts on a mask, and inexplicably, it looks like his actual face, and the mouth moves with his. We accept it in the comics, we could accept it in a movie, as long as it LOOKS good. Don't offer an explanation of the mask. He just has it.

Less logical than the mask he had in the movie? Yes. But this isn't real life. This isn't even the Nolanverse. We accept things that make no effing sense. Like Peter Parker getting spider powers because he was bitten by a spider. The fact that Doc Ock does nuclear testing in the middle of Manhattan in his apartment. The entire origin of Sandman.

 

[Carlo Comicus]

Wade Eastwood (X-men The Last Stand, Drag me to Hell) is the stunt coordinator for SM4.

 

[bubbadoom]

Please, please, please keep Carnage and any other Venom-ish characters out of any future Spidey movies. Stick them all in the VENOM solo movie if you want, but keep them out of SPIDER-MAN!

 

[Rodrigo90]

Heres the complaint of Mysterio.

"He's lame"

"Illusions,huh,what harm can they do?"

Mysterio is a VERY,VERY dangerous foe. He is capable of anything. Playing simple tricks on the mind,can lead to any kind off danger. Mysterio turning gigantic,may be an illusion,but its still capable of killing Spider-Man. Like the Matrix,you get killed in in there,you die in the real world. So Spider-Man fighting an illusion,can potentially cause harm to his mind and make the experience so real,it could kill him. Mysterio has at his command machines. I say instead of creating them himself,he steals them from Oscorp.

 

[crimsonspider89]

Mysterio is not an A-tier villain though. Spidey has beaten him with ease numerous times. He is good if working with someone or for someone but alone he sucks. Maybe have Kingpin hire him and Shocker to take him out in 5 but not this one.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Im sure the movie will make him a bigger and more difficult challenge than what the comics have.

 

[crimsonspider89]

That is why he needs to be put with Shocker or Rhino. That would make him challenging. He is only after money for the main part, same for Shocker and Rhino.

 

[HughJackFan420]

I don't think Raimi will bring them back. It would be hard to establish the fact that the serum miraculously gave them a healing factor so they rise from the dead. But thats just my opinion.

not really i mean look at Spider-Man 3 at the Harry and MJ kissing scene after Harry reveals his script he wrote for MJ. MJ tries to look for a scar or marking from the head damage he received with the 1st encounter with Peter. She says something like,"there's hardly a scratch" or something like that. so it's evident that the serum does have a healing factor.

 

[omid17]

Norman and Harry died in the same way, both got their **** torn up by their gliders, Raimi aint bringing them back

 

[HughJackFan420]

well yeah that's a given but just saying the possibilities are there. it just irritates why the people in charge of making this movies insist of introducing the villain and then killing them. i mean look at the TDK...Joker lives...everyone is happy. Magneto in X-Men...but why do the villains have to die in the Spidey films? Especially with Venom i mean WTF!!??

 

[omid17]

im cool with all the deaths in sm films except for Venom but i guess since they're making a spin off maby he made it out alive somehow , and don't forget Sandman he's still out there too

 

[anrrd_2]

ya, it was slightly off-putting that only 1 out of the 5 villians spidey has faced lived at the end, 1 out of six if u include uncle bens REAL killer. but that death was actually accurate to the comics AND essential to the story.

If raimi wants to kill of characters, bring in the lizard to kill some people... in the comics i believe it was Doc Ock who killed Captain Stacy, but i doubt the fanboys would pitch a huge fit if Lizard did him in. It would be especially powerful if Peter and Gwen were dating in SM4 and she blamed spiderman for her fathers death. loves peter, hates spiderman, fun drama... add to that Gwens new best friend felicia hardy(pre black cat) who cant stand peter but is infatuated with spiderman. it becomes a sort of ANTI-love-triangle that doesnt include MJ. i like MJ, but i think she needs to be absent from sm4. maybe in California trying to make it as an actress.

 

[crimsonspider89]

MJ needs to be friends with Peter while he is dating Gwen and introduce Felicia. Agree with your storyline.

 

[anrrd_2]

i would love to see peter and MJ reconcile but agree to stay separated in SM4, MJ goes away to focus on acting.

Peter and Gwen grow closer and closer....Captain Stacy is killed, Gwen blames spidey... introduce felicia who like i said loves spidey but cant stand peter

Then in SM5, Felicia becomes black cat after finding out her father was not dead as she believed him to be but actually in prison because he is the infamous catburglar. Aunt May passes away, she leaves peter a note telling him that she knew he was spiderman all along and that she is extremely proud of him.

bring in hobgoblin who kills Gwen in a scene eerily similar to the bridge scene in SM1...except that hobgoblin prevents peter from saving Gwen. MJ, who was returning from Cali, sees the whole thing. peter is blind with rage (RAGE! NOT TEARS!) He and black cat team up to stop hobgoblin. Black Cat is fatally wounded but survives, spidey makes her promise not to fight crime anymore

in SM6, MJ is trying to help peter deal with all he has lost but he pushes her away. he still loves her, but is determined not to let anyone else get close enough to him to get hurt. Black cat comes back against spideys wishes, they become very close because spidey doesnt feel like he has to worry about her as much. however felicia and peter still do not get along.



thats what i came up with as far as relationships go... as far as villians? idk, lizard...hobgoblin... scorpion and rhino in 6? the story can be adjusted to fit any villian

 

[Rodrigo90]

Heres what I see.

4 years pass. Peter and MJ are on the verge of marriage. Peter has a staff job. MJ is an actress and 2 month pregnant!!! Life is running smoothly. That is until...MJ is filming a new movie,"Master Of Illusion". A movie where she plays the part of a girl trapped in a world of fantasy by the Master Of Illusion. However little does anybody know,the special effects artist,Quention Beck,is planning to sabotage the movie and kill the stars. During the course of the movie Mysterio ruins Peter and MJs wedding and MJ and Aunt May both die!!!...or do they?