The Avengers only one female team member?

[Nokio]

Scarlet Witch is licensed by FOX. I would like to see another female character, but I'm not too disappointed about it. There was only one female a part of the original Avengers anyway.

Please provide link or proof that Fox owns the Scarlett Witch? I'm not convinced they do as so many keep assuming that cause she's a mutant she's automatically Fox's. If we are going on the assumption that because she is a mutant that Fox owns her then they must own Namor as well. Wanda's history and popularity has been tied in with the Avengers way more then the Xmen. Fox has the rites to the xmen and the mutants tied with in their universe and one can assume that Wanda would belong to Fox but I remember reading that the contract between Marvel and Fox is all the mutants that is tied with the xmen and Wolverine and aren't part or wasn't part of other titles as main characters or their own title belong to Fox. Namor, Scarlett Witch and Quicksilver fit the bill. It's gets very tricky on who owns who cause Fox can claim they own Venom or Black Widow because they have appeared in Wolverine's title and was in a story arc. Marvel can claim Beast because he was part of the Avengers can they not? It's all dicey and if the assumption was that Fox can lay claim to any characters that have been featured in the x universe then they would have claim to Hulk, Spidey, Cap, and Thor and on
and on. With Marvel and Disney making their own films now based off comic characters you can bet they are looking at any loop hole to get back their characters or ones in limbo, especially the ones that specifically hasn't been mentioned by name but falls under that tie in crap of the Xuniverse. Marvel is gonna fight over Wanda if they don't have the rites already because she has been featured in the avengers way more then the xmen. The Scarlett Witch may just end up being a character never used in film because of the debate of who has legal to her. If she ever makes it's to the avengers she won't be referred to as a mutant or magneto's daughter .

 

[Dark Raven]

According to the Ang Lee Hulk film and also the Incredible Hulk #312, Hulk is also a mutant, and the gamma rays just triggered the mutation. Fox should own him too.

 

[The Question]

I think the Avengers could find work for her.

He needs to save her for this movie:

http://xkcd.com/311/

 

[Webley]

I think thay should get rid of Hulk and Purple Arrow and put in Vision and Scarlet Witch.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Please provide link or proof that Fox owns the Scarlett Witch? I'm not convinced they do as so many keep assuming that cause she's a mutant she's automatically Fox's. If we are going on the assumption that because she is a mutant that Fox owns her then they must own Namor as well. Wanda's history and popularity has been tied in with the Avengers way more then the Xmen. Fox has the rites to the xmen and the mutants tied with in their universe and one can assume that Wanda would belong to Fox but I remember reading that the contract between Marvel and Fox is all the mutants that is tied with the xmen and Wolverine and aren't part or wasn't part of other titles as main characters or their own title belong to Fox. Namor, Scarlett Witch and Quicksilver fit the bill. It's gets very tricky on who owns who cause Fox can claim they own Venom or Black Widow because they have appeared in Wolverine's title and was in a story arc. Marvel can claim Beast because he was part of the Avengers can they not? It's all dicey and if the assumption was that Fox can lay claim to any characters that have been featured in the x universe then they would have claim to Hulk, Spidey, Cap, and Thor and on
and on. With Marvel and Disney making their own films now based off comic characters you can bet they are looking at any loop hole to get back their characters or ones in limbo, especially the ones that specifically hasn't been mentioned by name but falls under that tie in crap of the Xuniverse. Marvel is gonna fight over Wanda if they don't have the rites already because she has been featured in the avengers way more then the xmen. The Scarlett Witch may just end up being a character never used in film because of the debate of who has legal to her. If she ever makes it's to the avengers she won't be referred to as a mutant or magneto's daughter .

They own all mutants closely associated with the X-men franchise, guys. They don't own "all" mutants but most mutants. Its clear that she's own by Fox because she's closely tied to X-men.

 

[Spider-Vader]

I'm glad War Machine isnt in it. He just takes up space and is redundant.

The space part is true, but not the redundant thing. Iron Man & War Machine don't fight the same way, the only thing they have in common is flight & repulsor blasts.

 

[Nokio]

They own all mutants closely associated with the X-men franchise, guys. They don't own "all" mutants but most mutants. Its clear that she's own by Fox because she's closely tied to X-men.

Well perhaps you should for starters provide the link. I'm not saying you're wrong but I'm not personally convinced that you're right. Wanda is not more associated with the Xmen then she is the Avengers. This woman has served as an Avenger long standing. She has never been on board the Xmen and nor have she appeared in any of the x books more then she has with The Avengers titles. Form the Avengers to Avengers West Coast and Force Works, she has been a permanent team character in all of those titles at some point in time. She's had her own limited series where Avenger members made appearences and not the Xmen. She's showed up in Thor, Iron man, Cap, Doc Strange to mention a few. If Fox wants to claim ownership because she is mutant I'm sure Marvel can back up what titles that she's been featured in the most and it's not the Xmen. Fox owning Magneto does not give them ownership of his kids.

Is Namor Fox's as well? He's a mutant and has been in some of the xtitles, so does that give Fox ownership? Until I see proof I'm not convinced based on someone saying so. Someone posted a screen cap with their last names from X2 as proof that Fox owns them, well as I recall mags prison was built by Stark industries and the Stark name was there, so what does that mean? Nothing because Fox doesn't own IM. This is really dicey and I bet Marvel isn't going to give up The Scarlett Witch now that they are cranking out their own films especially with tons of loop holes.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Well perhaps you should for starters provide the link. I'm not saying you're wrong but I'm not personally convinced that you're right. Wanda is not more associated with the Xmen then she is the Avengers. This woman has served as an Avenger long standing. She has never been on board the Xmen and nor have she appeared in any of the x books more then she has with The Avengers titles. Form the Avengers to Avengers West Coast and Force Works, she has been a permanent team character in all of those titles at some point in time. She's had her own limited series where Avenger members made appearences and not the Xmen. She's showed up in Thor, Iron man, Cap, Doc Strange to mention a few. If Fox wants to claim ownership because she is mutant I'm sure Marvel can back up what titles that she's been featured in the most and it's not the Xmen. Fox owning Magneto does not give them ownership of his kids.

Is Namor Fox's as well? He's a mutant and has been in some of the xtitles, so does that give Fox ownership? Until I see proof I'm not convinced based on someone saying so. Someone posted a screen cap with their last names from X2 as proof that Fox owns them, well as I recall mags prison was built by Stark industries and the Stark name was there, so what does that mean? Nothing because Fox doesn't own IM. This is really dicey and I bet Marvel isn't going to give up The Scarlett Witch now that they are cranking out their own films especially with tons of loop holes.

Then don't believe me, I'm just offering speculation. The truth is none of us actually knows the contract.

And Namor isn't a mutant. Well the Golden Age version isn't a mutant. He's a human/atlantean hybrid.

 

[Nokio]

Then don't believe me, I'm just offering speculation. The truth is none of us actually knows the contract.

And Namor isn't a mutant. Well the Golden Age version isn't a mutant. He's a human/atlantean hybrid.

Namor isnt a mutant? What the devil? As long as I've heard of Namor he's been called Marvel's first and mightiest mutant. I've seen that tagline more times then I can recall on the cover of Marvel books dealing with Namor.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

The Golden Age version definitely isn't a mutant and it is debatable whether all the other versions are. They just sorta slapped the mutant label on him after X-men was created.

 

[Nokio]

The Golden Age version definitely isn't a mutant and it is debatable whether all the other versions are. They just sorta slapped the mutant label on him after X-men was created.

Well it's marvel that did it so I accept it. He's the child of an Atleantian Mother and Human father. The Xgene is transferred to the child from the father unless Marvel has changed that. Namor displayes powers that neither is present in Atleantians or Humans, which is why he's been labled a mutant or a human mutant/atlantian hybrid to be more specific.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I always thought Scarlet Witch and Wasp were lame characters.

am I missing something?

 

[Project862006]

umm why would'nt fox own magneto's daughter ?

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Well it's marvel that did it so I accept it. He's the child of an Atleantian Mother and Human father. The Xgene is transferred to the child from the father unless Marvel has changed that. Namor displayes powers that neither is present in Atleantians or Humans, which is why he's been labled a mutant or a human mutant/atlantian hybrid to be more specific.

I always thought Scarlet Witch and Wasp were lame characters.

am I missing something?

No. I could care less if Wasp isn't in The Avengers (along with Ant-man) though I was always at least curious to see Scarlet Witch in film.

I don't get why people are complaining about one woman when for most of the early Avengers there's one woman.

 

[Golgo-13]

Black Widow doesn't have any super powers does she, other than her human based skills? Why can't we get a female with super powers? Maybe Marvel doesn't want to invest in a solo movie based on a female lead, so they're just going with the already introduced Black Widow....

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I wouldn't miss Black Widow either.

 

[Ash Talon]

Fox probably has rights to Scarlet Witch because she first appeared in early X-Men issues. Not because she's a mutant. Their film option doesn't work like that.

Namor has only been considered a "mutant" for the last few years, so they could attach him to the X-Men world and hopefully increase his popularity.


I would have liked to see Pym working as a scientist for SHIELD and with the Avengers Initiative. He discovered Pym particles and helped turn his wife/assistant into the Wasp. Pym could then show up at a timely moment as Giant Man.

They could also introduce Ultron as an artificial intelligence he's working on. In the sequel, it gets out of control.

I think Pym would be much better as being part of the Avengers film than in an Ant-Man movie, which most likely won't perform well.

 

[Project862006]

I'd miss her cleavage

 

[Superhero 101]

i hope they have Betty make a little cameo

 

[JeetKuneDo]

He needs to save her for this movie:

http://xkcd.com/311/

Awesome.

 

[Nokio]

Fox probably has rights to Scarlet Witch because she first appeared in early X-Men issues. Not because she's a mutant. Their film option doesn't work like that.

Namor has only been considered a "mutant" for the last few years, so they could attach him to the X-Men world and hopefully increase his popularity.

Um no and no. No one have provided any proof that Fox owns SW, but I do remember reading that the contract between Marvel and FOX is that Fox has the rites to all the Xmen and their villians either mutant or non mutant as well as nearly all mutants that are part of the Xmen universe with the exception of characters that predate the xmen and those either with their own title or is a character that is part of a title that is non xmen related. While I can't verify this, it sounds on the up and up simply because At some point or another any Marvel character can show up in any story arc in any title. Marvel had to be specific to cover their @sses or otherwise FOX can go" we own the Hulk because he has appeared in issues of Wolverine and the Xmen. Yes SW and Quicksilver made their appearence in the Xmen, they went on to become an Avengers and were featured heavily in that title that wasn't part of the Xuniverse. Quciksilver is iffy but Wanda has been an Avenger very long standing. She is featured in the Avengers universe way more then she has ever been in any of the xtitles. Since Marvel is making their own films now you can expect them to pull out clauses that covers them in cases like this.

You must have started reading marvel comics within the last recent years because Namor has been called Earth's 1st and mightiest mutant for easily over the last 12 years. I don't know how far that tagline goes back but I got into reading comics like 12 or 13 years ago and that line was always featured on the cover of his own title.

 

[SuperSAINT]

I'm not worried about having a team of seven, with only one female character - It worked for LXG...... Oh wait

With Whedon's track record, i'm not worried at all. Just curious what the non-superpowered guys are gonna be doing.

 

[wobbly]

I remember Namor was being called a mutant back in the 80's (Might well have been earlier too)

Anyway, Fox apparently do not own him, so to assume they have the rights to all Marvel's mutants because of the X-Men is not correct. Whether Marvel can actually use the term 'mutant' for any of the characters they put on film though I do not know (none so far would qualify as mutants anyway).
Would seem odd to me that a generic term could be 'copyrighted' like that, but who knows how it works?

With regards Scarlet Witch...I figure Fox probably do have her, because she is Magneto's daughter. That direct link between the characters would suggest to me both her and Quicksilver are under the Fox thumb, atm.

 

[misjuevos]

yea i think it is when and where they first appeared. that is who owns the rights. scarlet witch first appeared in the brotherhood, which is from x-men. so fox has dibs. regardless of her being more associated with avengers, here origins are in the x-men, which fox owns.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

yea i think it is when and where they first appeared. that is who owns the rights. scarlet witch first appeared in the brotherhood, which is from x-men. so fox has dibs. regardless of her being more associated with avengers, here origins are in the x-men, which fox owns.

I don't think that applies haha. If that was the case, Wolverine would be with Marvel because Wolverine first appeared in the Incredible Hulk or Punisher would be with Sony because he first appeared in Spiderman.

I'm pretty sure when these contracts were made there more specific instructions of what each company could and couldn't use in terms of Marvel characters.