Organic "Victor": A Doombot All Along? (new photo inside)

[AssMan]

I say the SS has something to do with it......

My guess is when he takes the Silver Surfers powers he uses the power to also return to normal

 

[blind_fury]

That's a very good point. Why would Doom program a Doombot to say Marco Polo?

I would prefer Dr.Doom program a doombot with a different personality if it means redeeming the character.

 

[AssMan]

I would prefer Dr.Doom program a doombot with a different personality if it means redeeming the character.

The only problem with that is

The doctor who did a medical examination would've realized Doom was a robot.

 

[zer00]

Doom bot?.....no ....what are you thinking?

 

[fantastic fifth]

I think I would almost rather have Dr.Doom bring forth a 'Victor' DoomBot in this movie in order to try and throw them off his trail. At some point, they realize that it is an imposter and Ben smashes the crap out of it. Then, they finally meet up with the new and improved Monarch Doom.

 

[Joe Rockhead]

Crap, I just found a plot hole. The doctor who did a medical examination would've realized Doom was a robot.

Unless the real Doom came to the US to get a medical exam!!!

Ok, that's a stretch.

It could just be that he was a lousy doctor that deserved his fate.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Does anyone yet know how Victor gets Norrin's powers in this film anyway?

 

[Prognosticator]

I'm in a current state of agreement with BF x100!



"Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!" *POOF!*

 

[GreenKToo]

maybe clones??

Crap, I just found a plot hole. The doctor who did a medical examination would've realized Doom was a robot.

Unless the real Doom came to the US to get a medical exam!!!

Ok, that's a stretch.

 

[Storm22]

Using Silver Surfer's powers to return to normal?! Ugh, really don't like the sound of that!!

 

[lordofthenerds]

Using Silver Surfer's powers to return to normal?! Ugh, really don't like the sound of that!!

His character being a robot all along doesn't sound any better. As a matter of fact I saw something similar to that in Leprechaun 4 In Space.

 

[Chaos Bringer]

what does continuity mean?

 

[Storm22]

It's almost as if they decided to cut costs and go for a human looking Doom.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

It's almost as if they decided to cut costs and go for a human looking Doom.

I'm inclined to think differently. He's supposed to have 3 different looks in this film. Apparently this is one of them. My guess:

1st Look: Burned Organic Masked Metal Version (from FF1)
2nd Look: As shown above
3rd Look: Full Dr. Doom with Armor and Cloak

2 and 3 could be switched around of course...

 

[Onlooker]

Does anyone yet know how Victor gets Norrin's powers in this film anyway?

Wasn't there mention in an interview somewhere (perhaps Ioan) about stealing the board?

But I'll be frank with you: I never EVER expected them to show Julian McMahon's face one time in this film. I assumed he'd be masked for its entirety.

And what a loss that would have been to fans of the female persuasion. Why hide your best asset?

 

[gerbstat]

Obviously the work of The Beyonder...

 

[Matt]

Well, it doesn't really make sense....but these movies and logic don't really go hand in hand.

 

[bdpaco]

Using Silver Surfer's powers to return to normal?! Ugh, really don't like the sound of that!!

totally in line with the comics..Doom did restore his face when he stole the Beyonders powers during the first Secret Wars...

 

[Fantastic-Boy]

To me is a Big mistery...

 

[RagingTempest]

That would be an AMAZING twist!!! But it wouldn't makes sense after all, Victor was examined like someone said*sigh*!!!

 

[HoratioRome]

You think it's desperate? *cries*

Seriously, I think a move like this would be smart and savvy--and easily the best way to correct what so many fans feel was a glaring mistake. And the studio wouldn't lose face in doing it this way.

I'm afraid the alternative (Silver Surfer's power cosmic "fixing" his face) might be unbelievably cheesy.

I think it's a bit beyond desperate personaly. Man that is really reaching there lightning.
I mean I like your theory and I would love to find out that that Marco polo guy was not DOOM. but the chance of that being the case are almost nill.

come on people. when are we going to finally realize that these people have no clew what they're doing?
that they don't care about the source material (other than to use the name).

It is MUCH more likely that in FF2 Doom will be human just as he looks in that pic with some lame explanation. he will probably spend half the time looking human just like in the first movie, so that Julian can get face time in front of the camera. Want to bet that the thing will also turn human to give chiklis face time?

look they are screwing up these characters and this great material, and WE allow them to do it, by accepting their crappy alternatives and coming up with excuses for their "decisions". we fall for whatever they tell us. then we get dissapointed when they don't listen to us.
If story/fox couldn't bother to put something as simple as a brow on the Thing are you really confident they would do Doom justice? NM Galactus.
it's time we woke up people.

lightning, I must say that this pic coincides with the "rumor" that Doom would be the same yuppi business man he was in the first movie.

 

[HoratioRome]

btw, I should point out another problem I see with this pic.
Julian's expression strikes me as cheesy, weak, lakcing of substance and power.
this combined with the acting/reaction of the characters in the trailer tells me this film will not have the weight it deserves.

 

[Spade]

Well, it doesn't really make sense....but these movies and logic don't really go hand in hand.

I second this thought. If there's anything this film is in desperate need of, it's a good sense of logic that makes it the night to FF1's day.

I'm inclined to think differently. He's supposed to have 3 different looks in this film. Apparently this is one of them. My guess:

1st Look: Burned Organic Masked Metal Version (from FF1)
2nd Look: As shown above
3rd Look: Full Dr. Doom with Armor and Cloak

2 and 3 could be switched around of course...

So long as I see a Doom who is as regal as the supposed concept art, I'd be happy. I want a full Doom who actually seems threatening. Though, if I was really pressed to an alternative? I could live with him being ressurected, obtaining the Power Cosmic to become human and then wearing the armor the art supposedly reveals as a way to start introducing the 'man so absorbed in his greatness he flaunts himself as a god amongst peasants' mentality we're used to. But only if it really had to go down like that. I'd prefer something else. There's so much more creativity to be had.

Does anyone yet know how Victor gets Norrin's powers in this film anyway?

Ioan just made it sound as if he just steals the board, which in the film (I guess) is the source from which he derives the Power Cosmic. Could be changed later on, but this late in the game...? Doubt it.

 

[Iron Maiden]

Maybe we're grasping at straws but I find this quote in a local paper very interesting. Either the reporter is clueless and didn't realize what character Julian was in the first movie or...we didn't see Doctor Doom at all and the Doombot theory has some validity. If you go all the way back to last year, when Julian was being interviewed on the red carpet of the Golden Globes, he even joked about coming back as a "Fembot". That would lead me to suspect he had heard or read and early draft of the script with the idea of Victor being a Doombot.

From: The Chicago Daily Herald/News

First he played a British abolitionist, then a superhero with a body made of rubber. Which took more acting skill? Welsh actor Ioan Gruffudd (let’s pronounce this correctly, shall we? YOan GRIFFith) thought about it a moment. I volunteered that playing an imaginary superhero would be tougher than playing a historical abolitionist.

“I would agree,” the 33-year-old actor said during a recent tour through the Windy City. He came in on behalf of his new movie, “Amazing Grace,” opening today at area theaters. (Read the review in today’s Time out!). Gruffudd plays William Wilberforce, a member of Britain’s House of Commons and a tireless fighter for the abolition of slavery. That’s quite a stretch from Reed Richards, the character he plays in “The Fantastic Four: The Rise of the Silver Surfer,” opening June 15. A sequel to the 2005 box office hit inspired by the Marvel comic book, “Silver Surfer” brings Gruffudd back as Mr. Fantastic, who can turn into silly putty.

“There is a great deal of satisfaction on a daily basis when you’re playing William Wilberforce because of the great dialogue and the great actors you’re working with,” Gruffudd said. “The challenge that you have playing Reed Richards is that often I’m acting to a cross on the wall. Or a tennis ball that is suspended above me, and I have to imagine that my arm is stretched all the way up there.

“This demands a different sort of discipline on every take. You’ve got to be very convincing. Because then they take that film away, they’ll put the computer-generated images in, and if I’m not believable, it’s hard for them to make the movie look believable.”In “Rise of the Silver Surfer,” Dr. Doom makes his cinematic debut (played by Julian McMahon) along with the titular villain Surfer (played by Doug Jones). But the biggest plot twist — Mr. Fantastic is getting married to Sue Storm, alias Invisible Girl (Jessica Alba).

Any good jokes about how flexible Mr. Fantastic can be?

“Oh, yes,” Gruffudd admitted. “We have them.”

 

[Alcatraz]

i say that in that pic Thing is up against a Doom Bot sent from latveria. Thing probubly crushes it and finds its a robot. The real doom is in latveria as some digusting organic metal burn victom hidden in classic doom armor. he is so insecure that he creats doom bots that look like he used to to do all of his socializing.

also on the topic of how doom gets the power cosmic.
isnt his power obsorbing massive amounts of energy in the first place?
also didnt reed already invent a cosmic power stealing machine?
so they could go both ways. either have doom absorb the surfers obsorbed all the electricity in the first movie. or they can have him recreate reeds machine but better. or they could take the horribly cheesy and ******ed way, and have doom steal his board... which would suck balls.

i have high expectations for this movie. they better not make the same mistakes they did in the first.