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The Force Awakens Oscar Isaac as Poe Dameron

Poe was supposed to die like 20 minutes into the film. His surviving was a very late decision. So his not really getting an arc isn't surprising. Doesn't mean that he won't going forward. And lets face it, the trio in TFA was Rey/Finn/Han.


I just remembered something, Leia also really doesn't have an arc of her own in the OT. She's used to further other character's arcs (Luke, Han, even Lando in ESB).
 
Poe was supposed to die like 20 minutes into the film. His surviving was a very late decision.
Yeah "a late decision" and unfortunately his character kind of reads that way.
He could have used something more, one scene of exposition that gives him a character arc.

Way back it was suggested he was the only "true" survivor of Alderaan(native not adopted). last survivor of his line.
This simple reference would have added incredible weight to his character.
During the torture scene Kylo could have plucked this otherwise meaningless "fact" from his mind, used it against him as far as - where is the map -why are you protecting the Rebels - you know it's because of Leia(not a true Alderaanian) who led them to Alderaan that all your people are dead. ...they brought this upon you...? etc...
This could have been used against him, and helped define character and purpose.
That way when he cracked, it gives some personal weight, doubt, humanity, to who he is, what's at stake for him personally, because deep down there is actually some truth (from a certain point of view) to what Kylo exposes.
So how would he react?
When he then disappears in the desert during the first act, you might question why he took off, like damn, Kylo really got into his head and 'efd with his reality and "truth".
Maybe he has abandoned the Rebels and their mission, that's why he's gone.

This would have carried over to when he does return, with an epic fleet of Rebel X-Wings behind him.
And with little exposition, giving him a much stronger a character story arc, like ef-yeah! They couldn't break him! Giving it a more personal struggle, and weight.
When you do see him and Leia together, you know what it means to them that he wasn't broken, that he recognizes her as their leader and why he always fights by their side.
 
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That could very well be the case. If they delve into Poe's backstory you could see a young Ben Solo hanging out with him being angsty and stuff. But I'm not sure Poe knows Kylo Ren is Ben Solo. I got the impression that Kylo kept that helmet on at all times to deliberately hide who he really was to anyone who would know. There's a moment in Snoke's chamber when Hux walks in on Kylo without the helmet and he has this look like he's almost embarrassed.

IF they did know each other, there's one idea for a story for Poe in the sequel.

Even so, you'd think people would be aware that Kylo Ren is the son of the Solo's? Or would that be something Leia has kept secret? Surely someone like her, people would be aware of their son and when he disappeared, it would inspire a lot of questions.

I don't believe that is the case. Before the Awakening when Poe meets Leia, it seems to be his first time doing so. I guess you could say that he knew Ben prior. But just the way Before the Awakening went I would not think so.

I thought I read here Poe was kind of a surrogate son to Leia as explained in the comics? Even if they didn't know each other in childhood, it's murky because we don't know when Ben went away to train with Luke so they may have never even met.
 
I just remembered something, Leia also really doesn't have an arc of her own in the OT. She's used to further other character's arcs (Luke, Han, even Lando in ESB).
You are right, she didn't get much, but anyone with a big sister would recognize this, she goes from having the weight and responsibility of the world on her shoulders, always having to to be pragmatic, calculating, cold, think of the mission, no time for our sorrows, she's torchered, sees her own world destroyed, never a moment for herself always putting the rebellion above all, this has been her life -> to for the first time she's finally allowed a smile after their victory and that medal award ceremony.
... and eventually allows something for herself.:cwink:
Han: "admit it" ...which she will only do reluctantly.
Corny, but it's there.

Of the new "trio" the development growth/arcs more obviously went to Rey and Finn, because Poe was what you indicate an afterthought character and sadly it shows.

Again not trying to take anything from Izaac or the character Poe, who despite what little he got, really owned his part and made you want to see more.
The character (and actor) I think warrant more.

but for some reason there's more off topic discussion about Kylo, than there is about Poe, in Poe's own thread.
 
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15 minutes into Star Wars and chill and he gives you this look

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Even so, you'd think people would be aware that Kylo Ren is the son of the Solo's? Or would that be something Leia has kept secret? Surely someone like her, people would be aware of their son and when he disappeared, it would inspire a lot of questions.

Maybe the lie is that Ben was one of the students killed in the attack, rather than being the perpetrator of it. Like how in the old EU, the official Imperial records showed that Anakin was one of the Jedi killed in the Temple, rather than the leader.
 
Even if they didn't know each other in childhood, it's murky because we don't know when Ben went away to train with Luke so they may have never even met.

I thought I read somewhere that Ben was sent away to train when he was ten years old. Maybe from the novelization?
 
Maybe the lie is that Ben was one of the students killed in the attack, rather than being the perpetrator of it. Like how in the old EU, the official Imperial records showed that Anakin was one of the Jedi killed in the Temple, rather than the leader.
I thought I read somewhere that Ben was sent away to train when he was ten years old. Maybe from the novelization?
There's probably a bit of a moratorium for the Poe comics to develop the details of Kylo's life, other than to say he is not around.
So he won't be any kind of main focus, friend, antagonist or otherwise in the Poe comic. Not sure how he became the main topic here.
They won't be developing Poe around a hypothetical relationship with Ren.

The series will be set prior to the events of "Star Wars: The Force Awakens," in the gap between "Return of the Jedi" and the latest Star Wars film. The series will also introduce a new threat from the First Order that will serve as Poe's primary antagonist, with Soule commenting that the new villain "is going to feel fresh and cool." BB-8 and some of the newly introduced X-wing pilots will round out Poe's supporting cast.

As far as antagonist, they will be building it around "a new threat from the First Order."
Probably designed to have as little impact as possible on the broader ramifications of the Kylo & Rey story arcs, which will play out in the film.
And will focus on mostly inconsequential mission involving Repel Pilots, and Poe's X-Wing squad.

Artist on the book will be Phil Noto - http://philnoto.tumblr.com/
Who did the Chewbacca series.

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Interiors-

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Until the solicitations were put out today, I had no idea this book was happening. Now between this, Black Panther, and Moon Knight, April can't come soon enough!
 
Poe the next to receive the character journal book format for young readers:

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Star Wars Rebels:

Ezra (#1) and Sabine (#2)

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The Force Awakens:

Rey (#1) and Poe (#2)

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I wish we had seen more of this guy. Definitely would've liked to see him interacting with the rest of the team towards the end, especially since he's the first character we meet. I feel he should've met Rey at least.
 
I wish we had seen more of this guy. Definitely would've liked to see him interacting with the rest of the team towards the end, especially since he's the first character we meet. I feel he should've met Rey at least.

I agree with you. That is my gripe about TFA. One of em anyway but all I ask was a good introduction between Rey and Poe but it didn't happen :(
 
Rey and Poe met very briefly in the novelization but it was nothing more than a quick introduction.
 
It's odd, that they cut that scene out. It's not like it would have taken that much time. Maybe it was for pacing or something.

Oh well, I hope that they get scenes together moving forward. If you look at their social media pages or BTS stuff, Oscar and Daisy have really good natural chemistry together. And her, him, and Boyega have good chemistry as a group, so Rey. Finn, and Poe all getting scenes together as a group would be nice.
 
I wish we had seen more of this guy. Definitely would've liked to see him interacting with the rest of the team towards the end, especially since he's the first character we meet. I feel he should've met Rey at least.
I think the fact they didn't meet on film might further exacerbate his lack of connection to her in the sequels, especially if they are trying to establish them as a trio.
In the next film will their actual on screen "meeting" be written as their first? Or will they just gloss over it and assume the novelization cannon and we never actually see it on film.
It just kind of kills the dynamic, if in VIII they are already talking like they met and know each other, but we never actually saw it.
Or are they going to "revisit" their actual first meeting with some quick filler exposition, which sucks.

Luke and Ben's first meeting, Luke and Han's, Luke and Leia, Han and Leia's, Lando and Leia's, Fin and Poe's, Fin and Rey's, all these first meetings are so memorable, and add to the dynamic of character.
They've already gone out of their way to say the first meeting for Poe and Rey(the driving force of the film) is near insignificant.

Hopefully VIII builds and gives us an interesting dynamic between them, despite having no actual on screen first meeting.
 
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Either the meeting was cut for pacing or they never filmed it in the first place and it only exists in the book.

How it's handled in VIII depends on how long Rey is training with Luke. She might not even be around Finn and Poe until halfway through the movie.
 
I think the fact they didn't meet on film might further exacerbate his lack of connection to her in the sequels, especially if they are trying to establish them as a trio.
In the next film will their actual on screen "meeting" be written as their first? Or will they just gloss over it and assume the novelization cannon and we never actually see it on film.
It just kind of kills the dynamic, if in VIII they are already talking like they met and know each other, but we never actually saw it.
Or are they going to "revisit" their actual first meeting with some quick filler exposition, which sucks.

Luke and Ben's first meeting, Luke and Han's, Luke and Leia, Han and Leia's, Lando and Leia's, Fin and Poe's, Fin and Rey's, all these first meetings are so memorable, and add to the dynamic of character.
They've already gone out of their way to say the first meeting for Poe and Rey(the driving force of the film) is near insignificant.

Hopefully VIII builds and gives us an interesting dynamic between them, despite having no actual on screen first meeting.

It all depends on how Poe is handled in VIII in relation to the other characters that will confirm if he along with Rey and Finn are actually the big three of this trilogy. It seems like that is very much the case based on the marketing and story tropes that the series has always used but the omission in VII calls it into question. And it does feel like a bad omission to make. Like you said, it can easily make establishing a connection with Poe and Rey very awkward. But I still think it will happen. It's just how these stories work. The trope of the trio of heroes is as essential as the opening crawl to Star Wars. Every film has had it, including Force Awakens. Only there it was Rey, Finn, and Han. And I think Poe will fill part of the role Han is leaving behind in his own way.
 
I'm looking forward to his comic! So glad JJ didn't kill him off after all but now I just hope another director doesn't kill him in the next episode, maybe at least mid Episode 9.

Small role in TFA but effective and got to shine a bit, I've said before that I like Finn and Rey but Poe is actually my favorite of the new 3
 

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