Our Heroes' Kryptonites

[gambitfire]

WTF!!

lol

ok so who kills her?

 

[PLAS]

The following has been confirmed;

Spoiler

Isaac doesn't need drugs, he just thinks he does and kicks the habbit around episode 9. He also doesn't paint the future, he paints what might happen if they do anything, or what might happen if they don't. Something after episode 10 touches on this heavily.

Niki and Jessica(Niki's alter ego)are the same person, just different sides of the "id". The writers are going for a whole "You can do unimaginable things if you let your brain free" side of things which some believe to be true in society today.

Peter isn't a Leecher of powers, as other can use their powers around him, he's a mime.

Claire's only true weakness is her brain. If her brain is damaged, she retains the damage. Supposivly her brain will be removed from her body, only to have it be rebuilt in an episode later.

Eden has the power of suggestion to where, for the most part, if she says something, it happens. IE; Her telling Mohinder that he will be back and HRG telling her at the end of the previous episode "Stop him, you can do that" and "You can do better than that".

HRG isn't the badguy at all. In fact, he's more of a "good guy" that does some things that arn't typically seen by the 'good guys' (kidnapping and such). Most of it is to gather information on the various different "heros", probably to build a team or something.

Sylar is proposed to be Peter from the Future Hiro's timeline who couldn't go forward in time again. Something screwy with time travel and such.

The Nuke that is supposed to happen has to do with HRG and Claire dying permanantly. He sets off the nuke to kill whoever was responsible for Claires death.

I feel bad for you guys that don't read up on the spoilers that have to do with the specific characters. Now granted, none of the above are premanant, as originally Isaac was only able to predict the future when in pain (cutting himself, and he was going to cut his hand off) and now he's not.

where did you get those from?

 

[lars573]

Well, it really depends on how her type of regeneration works, it could be a healing factor, or maybe her body just returns to a state before any damage occurs, and that state is as it would be for any 16 year old girl. With this explanation she would age normally.

Wouldn't matter. Everytime living cells divide the new one is not as good as the old one. It's a hard biological fact. Also cell division happens at the same pace no matter what. It's why it it takes us as long as it does to heal. That's how long it takes the new cells to divide to replace old ones. Claire has a huge advantage in both speed and what cell types can regenerate. She's not aging very fast.

Even if it didn't last as long she could just keep shooting up to keep the effect going, and not fear any long term repercussions. She would just need a wealthy benefactor to fund it and she would be in a sense like Bane, but without the Mexican wrestling mask.

With her body she'd build a tolerance very fast.

 

[GhostPoet]

The following has been confirmed;

I feel bad for you guys that don't read up on the spoilers that have to do with the specific characters. Now granted, none of the above are premanant, as originally Isaac was only able to predict the future when in pain (cutting himself, and he was going to cut his hand off) and now he's not.

I don't read spoilers...I don't want to ruin the shows surprises for myself.

 

[3 Dev Adam]

Actually since Claire hasn't died of old age yet, she's probably nearly immortal.

Makes sense. Fantasy sense, of course, but at least it's within the internal logic of any fantasy world.

 

[primemover]

Wouldn't matter. Everytime living cells divide the new one is not as good as the old one. It's a hard biological fact. Also cell division happens at the same pace no matter what. It's why it it takes us as long as it does to heal. That's how long it takes the new cells to divide to replace old ones. Claire has a huge advantage in both speed and what cell types can regenerate. She's not aging very fast.

With her body she'd build a tolerance very fast.

You realize you are talking about a character in a show that has people who can read thoughts, fly and travel through time right??

'Hard Biological Fact' means nothing in this discussion, all that matters is what is possible in the lore the tv-show has proposed and demonstrated, and while I appreciate you sticking to what is 'real', you gotta give some leeway here.

My assumption of her body aging normally but only returning to state when damaged makes as much sense, and would get rid of that pesky '******ed aging' thing.

 

[3 Dev Adam]

'Hard Biological Fact' means nothing in this discussion, all that matters is what is possible in the lore the tv-show has proposed and demonstrated, and while I appreciate you sticking to what is 'real', you gotta give some leeway here.

SOME? LOL.

I still cannot find any reasonable scientific explanation for a man who can fly at superspeeds (and no, I'm not talking just Nathan - I'm talking any flying hero since Superman).

But flight works in fantasy cause, well, is almost everybody's dream.

 

[primemover]

SOME? LOL.

I still cannot find any reasonable scientific explanation for a man who can fly at superspeeds (and no, I'm not talking just Nathan - I'm talking any flying hero since Superman).

But flight works in fantasy cause, well, is almost everybody's dream.

How about this, if you believe in quantum mechanics, it is said that every possibility in time and space exists at the same time, we just move through this world in a linear fashion, so maybe flight can be achieved by adjusting ones own quantum position by moving laterally in time and space

There is a lot we don't understand about the universe, so anything is possible really, but I do expect a bit of grounding in my fantasy.

Take for instance Nathan and his flying, I am totally accepting of somebody flying in this fantasy world, but what I want explanations for is how he keeps from being ripped in half if he runs into a peice of debris, or how he keeps from freezing when he's up so high in the air, or how he keeps from shattering his shins and skinning his feet every time he lands.

Hopefully it is explained that he maybe projects some energy or force from his body, he can fly due to projecting this energy or forcefrom his feet, and that same energy or force is also used to protect him in the air and in landing.

 

[lars573]

You realize you are talking about a character in a show that has people who can read thoughts, fly and travel through time right??

'Hard Biological Fact' means nothing in this discussion, all that matters is what is possible in the lore the tv-show has proposed and demonstrated, and while I appreciate you sticking to what is 'real', you gotta give some leeway here.

My assumption of her body aging normally but only returning to state when damaged makes as much sense, and would get rid of that pesky '******ed aging' thing.

You realize our thoughs are electrical impulses? Who's to say that they aren't being beamed out of our heads on some EM frequency. Who's to say that they couldn't be piked up like radio or TV signals by another brain. On flight, well it's been demostrated that under the proper sort of EM energy fields gravity can be cancelled out. And objects pulverized into pudding (so you could theorize that the reverse must be true). So if someones body could control those sort of EM fields they could both fly and protect themselfs from damage when they do.

 

[primemover]

You realize our thoughs are electrical impulses? Who's to say that they aren't being beamed out of our heads on some EM frequency. Who's to say that they couldn't be piked up like radio or TV signals by another brain. On flight, well it's been demostrated that under the proper sort of EM energy fields gravity can be cancelled out. And objects pulverized into pudding (so you could theorize that the reverse must be true). So if someones body could control those sort of EM fields they could both fly and protect themselfs from damage when they do.

Cool, everything you proposed above is 'science fiction', not 'science fact', at least until we start seeing true telepathy and unpowered flight, but I like where you are going. I like my quantum probability flight theory better

 

[lars573]

The anti gravity thing is real, unexplained, but real. Some amatuer physicist in Vancover made a machine that could reverse gravity (he made liquid in a bowl spill up and then the bowl flew up) and pulverize a tin can into liquid without heating it. He doesn't know why it happened and it stopped working after a while. But with sonar and radar gear off of RCN ships that were being scrapped he made an EM energy feild that could affect gravity and molecular bonds.

Our brains do indeed work on electrical impulses though. Everytime you think of something an electric charge jumps between 2 neurons in your brain. That's fact. Every persons body produces a unique and measurable EM field. Some like to call it your aura.

 

[primemover]

The anti gravity thing is real, unexplained, but real. Some amatuer physicist in Vancover made a machine that could reverse gravity (he made liquid in a bowl spill up and then the bowl flew up) and pulverize a tin can into liquid without heating it. He doesn't know why it happened and it stopped working after a while. But with sonar and radar gear off of RCN ships that were being scrapped he made an EM energy feild that could affect gravity and molecular bonds.

Our brains do indeed work on electrical impulses though. Everytime you think of something an electric charge jumps between 2 neurons in your brain. That's fact. Every persons body produces a unique and measurable EM field. Some like to call it your aura.

Still a long way til those things produce flying telepaths.

Our bodies produce more electrical impulses than in just our brain, could you imagine the indecipherable chatter you'd get even if you tried to listen to somebody, then you'd have the hefty job of rebuilding what that chatter means as our brains parse the world and store what is necessary.

Even the most advanced reader of electrical fields in the animal kingdom, the platypus's bill, has enough trouble using it as a crude location device to find shrimp in the mire, reading the impulses of activity from their muscles.

The best bet for mind reading of any kind would be with machines, but that is only until we can figure out how our brains see and memorize things, and even then you'd probably have to profile the person you want to read as I am sure that each person sees the world differently.

 

[3 Dev Adam]

Platypuses have superpowers?

 

[lars573]

What I'm saying is that it's not quite science fiction. Improbable, but not impossible.

 

[primemover]

What I'm saying is that it's not quite science fiction. Improbable, but not impossible.

We're on the same page, improbable is the operative word.

 

[primemover]

Platypuses have superpowers?

It's a pretty super power, their bill is like an antennea that can sense electric impulses and waves, using both to detect shrimp in mud where it's eyes are useless. The electrical impulses are from the shrimps muscles flexing, and the waves are from their movements in the mud, one is slower than the other, and gauging the speed of both it can triangulate the location of the shrimp and get a meal!

While it's not as cool as phasing or telepathy, still pretty badass

 

[3 Dev Adam]

Well, if applied to a human, if could make him a champion in Catch.

 

[lars573]

Some animals have sense and even organs that if a human had them they'd be super powers. Like an electric eels organic generator. Heck dogs and cats have 3x the auditory and olfactory prowess that we do. Bees can see ultra violet, but are blind to red.