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Discussion in 'Ant-Man' started by samsnee, Jun 7, 2014.
Difference being those guys were hired like a year before filming began.
Yeah Hank Pym is the only Ant-Man I've ever read featured in a story from the ultimates to the Avengers. I'm sure there have been a ton of iterations but there is a few that most people would generally agree are the best.
It's not the perfect director (Wright) but I guess I'll be paying to see it anyway. The only way I wouldn't is if both GotG and A:AoU both suck. Which, is somewhat unlikely I'd say.
Scott Lang is generally light hearted but he also has a darker side.
Tony Stark in the comics was a more serious character mostly until Robert Downey Junior got the role. Pym and Lang are both characters open to different interpretations. I don't exactly see people saying boycott the movie if Douglas as Pym cracks a couple jokes or one liners
I'm just glad this age of directorlessness is over.
Same here, I hope that it'll still be a decent movie at the very least.
I'm glad the film is back on track. With Peyton Reed it's clear they've slid way down the comedy director totem pole, he's no Edgar Wright. But he's competent, he has credits under his belt, and he's a director, so the film isn't in limbo anymore, which is good.
I think more encouraging is Adam McKay being hired to write the script. Given how many of the reports have talked about the weak script from in-house writers, it's a positive sign that Marvel are addressing that. McKay is no slouch, and though his scripts have a lot of ad-libbing from actors, he does have some chops, and his own distinct identity. A strong script is the foundation of a strong film, and as much as I love Wright, it's probably best for the film that this doesn't feel too much like another director making Wright's film.
Obvious troll is obvious.
But how much of it is gong to be rewritten? Is all the brilliant nuance that Wright always includes in his work going to be totally removed? Is the general story the same? Or are we kind of starting from the ground up, with McKay plugging variables into a formula. I hope he's just doing a polish of Wright and Cornish's last draft.
I wonder if they'll recast everyone. And how the plot will fit in the MCU.
Way too late to recast everyone, and the plot summary makes it clear that they're not.
About time they got things in place. I don't really care that his filmography is a tad short or lackluster since I think Marvel is good about guiding it's directors with what they want in the film. Also, getting McKay to help do a rewrite shows they're willing to get some name people to help on this project.
Glad we finally have our director. Been a shakeu start but I'm finally getting excited again. Let's hope this is just the beginning of nothing but good news for this production.
From the Synopsis Lang & Pym are going to work together...Now let's get some cool villains Disney can make cool toys of.
Meh...I just can't get excited about this movie anymore. I hope this flops, so Marvel learns their lesson and doesn't allow something like this to happen again. This film being successful will only be bad for Marvel fans in the long run.
I'm expecting Pym will take part in the heist as well, even if he isn't suiting up
As long as Marvel keep some control I'm sure this'll all turn out ok
Talk about childish.
Never seen a single one of his films, so I've no right to think he'd be a bad choice. Though from the ones he's made, there are various images from his movies that are pretty memorable in my mind, Bring It On, Down With Love, even The Break Up, so I that would constitute as having an eye for visuals. My reasoning was more in line with the other directors like Wright, McKay and Fleicher who do have a visual flair and direct comedies and bunching in Reed along with them was more of an assumption. Also, how it comes off more as blatant checking off the Wright boxes is a personal annoyance of mine. Though it has no reflection of what I think of Reed as a filmmaker.
So I'm still gonna give him a chance. Like I said, Marvel's quality control has been successful to keep it a good film while McKay rewriting it inspires confidence. My main worry is how late in the game this is.
Actually it's the opposite of that. I don't want childish ****** films controlled by Disney and Marvel that hire yes men directors(pun intended). The way Marvel conducts business is scaring the talented people behind the cameras in Hollywood away.
Not everybody is cut out for Marvel. They have a specific plan, and so far their plan has worked and make consistent quality films that are better than the average comic book film. They've taken risks, and still taken chances on filmmakers. But if you don't fall in line what they want, then you don't belong. It's not "Oh my God, corporate suits are intruding upon filmmakers artistic integrity! Oh, these auteurs are suffering!" *throws up in mouth* These filmmakers are facilitators. Whether you're an Edgar Wright or an Alan Taylor. And so far, as Machiavellian as it's been, it's gotten highly successful results, commercially and among the crowds and fans. Their quality control has been nothing but solid. And honestly, if anyone thought Wright leaving was completely out of the question, you are naive if you haven't look at their track record. I was worried this would happen a while ago. But I'm actually surprised it lasted as long as it did.
Let's face it, few filmmakers, even Wright, has the control and clout to call the shots on any comic book film or high budget tentpole film, no matter where he works. If anything, there's more yes men working at WB for Snyder and Goyer. Because at this point, who's gonna come in and tell Chris Nolan, Zack Snyder and David Goyer what they're doing is flawed? Hence MOS. That is the film that NEEDED what Marvel has.
Why do you hope this film flops? It's not like it would be a huge blockbuster under Wright. A superhero movie with no supervillans.
Yeah, because Shane Black and James Gunn were yes man. Oh wait ......
Got anymore overreactions for me?
Everyone who wanted Wright can't tell me ONE thing that made them excited about this film, but the director.
Let them complain.
When you start bringing in the cheddar like you know who at WB, then you can start having some pull. Money talks. It's cynical, but you can't be that ****ing idealistic.
Your statements make you not childish, but more along the lines of being snobbish/greedy in wanting a straight Wright movie that happened to use Marvel characters instead of a Marvel movie that happened to have Wright as director. As for scaring away talented people, I'd say Marvel still can attract/find talent if it wants to. Working for them may not be for every one, but if they can work with someone like James Gunn, then it's not impossible to get eccentric or artistic people working on their movies.