Phase 3 Release Schedule Finalized

I don't think Hulk or Widow stand on their own in films, for different reasons. Put them together in a team up film. Give it the full/big budget and knock yourself senseless. Russian Cold War holdovers, nuclear physics, other abandoned super soldier programs... good times.

2015 - Ant-Man
2016 - Cap 3, Dr. Strange
2017 - Black Panther, GOTG2: Captain Marvel, Hulk vs Widow
2018 - Inhumans, Thor 3
2019 - Avengers 3
 
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I don't think Hulk or Widow stand on their own in films, for different reasons. Put them together in a team up film. Give it the full/big budget and knock yourself senseless. Russian Cold War holdovers, nuclear physics, other abandoned super soldier programs... good times.

2015 - Ant-Man
2016 - Cap 3, Dr. Strange
2017 - Black Panther, GOTG2: Captain Marvel, Hulk vs Widow
2018 - Inhumans, Thor 3
2019 - Avengers 3

"The Mountain and the Spider" yeah?
I guess I can dig that.
 
How about a Planet Hulk/Groot & Rocket movie?

There is not going to be a planet Hulk, not for the foreseeable future.
Feige said No
Wheadon said No
Gunn said no three times and he doesn't want Hulk to team up with the Guardians

so yeah... not going to happen apparently
 
There is not going to be a planet Hulk, not for the foreseeable future.
Feige said No
Wheadon said No
Gunn said no three times and he doesn't want Hulk to team up with the Guardians

so yeah... not going to happen apparently


bleh...How about just a Groot & Rocket movie lol.
 
2015 - Ant-Man
2016 - Cap 3, Dr. Strange
2017 - Black Panther, GOTG2: Captain Marvel, Hulk vs Widow
2018 - Inhumans, Thor 3
2019 - Avengers 3
Now that's an interesting idea... on the one hand, it makes a lot more sense than the Hulk/Guardians idea -- its obvious that these franchises will share some setting overlap in terms of dealing with the Kree. But it doesn't really do what a lot of fans are wanting, in terms of producing a female-led film; Carol just becomes another member of Quill's team. Not sure how I feel about that.
 
That's a definite downside I thought about. As I think more about it, my solution is:

2018: "Crystal and the Inhumans"

Yeah... I'd like that.
 
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Can't see them waiting until 2018 for Thor 3, that 5 years after TDW.
 
My guess:

July 17, 2015- Ant-Man

May 6, 2016- Captain America 3

July 8, 2016- Dr. Strange

May 5, 2017- Black Panther

July 28, 2017- Guardians of the Galaxy 2

November 3, 2017- Thor 3

July 6, 2018- The Incredible Hulk 2? Iron Man 4?

November 2, 2018- Inhumans

May 3, 2019- Avengers 3
 
I don't think Hulk or Widow stand on their own in films, for different reasons. Put them together in a team up film. Give it the full/big budget and knock yourself senseless. Russian Cold War holdovers, nuclear physics, other abandoned super soldier programs... good times.

2015 - Ant-Man
2016 - Cap 3, Dr. Strange
2017 - Black Panther, GOTG2: Captain Marvel, Hulk vs Widow
2018 - Inhumans, Thor 3
2019 - Avengers 3

I don't think it's a case of Hulk not being able to work on his own, but rather the case of not wanting him to work in his own film. There was all that talk of Hulk stealing the show in the Avengers, but the truth is that his own fanbase is a small minority. If you were to gather a crowd of Marvel fans and ask them if they'd rather Iron Man 4 or Hulk 2, 9/10 they'd go with the former.

As it stands he's a supporting character in the Avengers series, but that's not a permanent position IMO. They're introducing new players with every film, already adding Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch and Vision in this next one, which means that screentime could start to be an issue. I think it's more likely that instead of Marvel granting Mark Ruffalo his own film, they're simply going to have him phased out of the grand narrative by the end of Avengers 3, at which stage Mark will be 50 and likely too old to do a solo film anyway.
 
Given (1) the recent interview with RDJ possibly willing to do a 4th IM movie, and (2) the desire to do another Hulk movie, while admitting the difficulty of doing it solo, and (3) the "Science Bros" popularity, what are the chances of getting an IM/Hulk team-up (or IM vs Hulk) movie in Phase 3?

Granted, the Hulkbuster is coming in AOU, and its hard to tell where these characters will be at by the end of that film.
 
Given (1) the recent interview with RDJ possibly willing to do a 4th IM movie, and (2) the desire to do another Hulk movie, while admitting the difficulty of doing it solo, and (3) the "Science Bros" popularity, what are the chances of getting an IM/Hulk team-up (or IM vs Hulk) movie in Phase 3?

Granted, the Hulkbuster is coming in AOU, and its hard to tell where these characters will be at by the end of that film.

I think its pretty high. But i don't think it will happen in Phase 3. i think the 'Science Bro's' movie will kick off Phase 4.
 
AS long as Black Panther and Ms. Marvel are announced I'll be happy
 
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I think its pretty high. But i don't think it will happen in Phase 3. i think the 'Science Bro's' movie will kick off Phase 4.
I'd be OK with that, though I know both actors have expressed concerns over becoming to old for the part. If A3 isn't until 2019 (which of course, we don't know), then that's a long wait. But If A3 is the newly announced May 2018 date, that would make more more sense.
 
http://www.superherohype.com/news/309749-marvel-studios-adds-yet-another-movie-to-2018

Given the addition of the May 4, 2018 date, my guesses:

PHASE THREE:
July 17, 2015: Ant Man
May 6, 2016: Captain America 3
July 8, 2016: Dr. Strange
May 5, 2017: Thor 3
July 28, 2017: Guardians Of The Galaxy 2
November 3, 2017: Black Panther
May 4, 2018: Avengers 3

PHASE FOUR (so far):
July 6, 2018: Captain Marvel
November 2, 2018: Ant Man 2
May 3, 2019: Dr. Strange 2

There is a 10-month gap in the announced schedule (between 7/8/16 and 5/5/17). That feels like a long time, given the frequency of these releases. I wouldn't be surprised to see a November 2016 date announced this week.
 
http://www.superherohype.com/news/309749-marvel-studios-adds-yet-another-movie-to-2018

Given the addition of the May 4, 2018 date, my guesses:

PHASE THREE:
July 17, 2015: Ant Man
May 6, 2016: Captain America 3
July 8, 2016: Dr. Strange
May 5, 2017: Thor 3
July 28, 2017: Guardians Of The Galaxy 2
November 3, 2017: Black Panther
May 4, 2018: Avengers 3

PHASE FOUR (so far):
July 6, 2018: Captain Marvel
November 2, 2018: Ant Man 2
May 3, 2019: Dr. Strange 2

There is a 10-month gap in the announced schedule (between 7/8/16 and 5/5/17). That feels like a long time, given the frequency of these releases. I wouldn't be surprised to see a November 2016 date announced this week.

I'd switch GOTG 2 with BP especially if the rumors of the A3 villain being Thanos and GOTG2 tying directly into Thanos
 
May3, 2019 will now be Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. the movie!!!!!
 
Lol. That list feels wrong. There is no way that. Marvel isn't going to lead phase 4 with anything that isn't Iron Man 4.

The new film for 2018 is probably Inhumans. Phase 3 will probably run through 2019 since the studio otherwise would have announced a second 2019 film instead. I guess this means that this is the Phase 3 schedule:

July 2015 - Ant-Man
May 2016 - Captain America: The Bloodstone Hunt
July 2016 - Doctor Strange
May 2017 - Thor 3
July 2017 - Captain Marvel
November 2017 - Black Panther
May 2018 - Incredible Hulk 2: Rise of the Pantheon
July 2018 - Inhumans
November 2018 - Guardians of the Galaxy: Universal Church of Truth
May 2019 - Avengers: Infinity

Phase 4 will almost certainly have Iron Man and Inhumans 2 leading. It will also probably introduce Blade, Darkhawk and Ghost Rider.
 
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7/17/15 - Ant-Man
5/6/16 - Captain America 3
7/8/16 - Dr. Strange
5/5/17 - The Indestructible Hulk
7/28/17 - Captain Marvel / Ms. Marvel
11/3/17 - Thor: Ragnarok
5/4/18 - Guardians of the Galaxy 2
7/6/18 - Black Panther
11/2/18 - The Inhumans (aka: Scarlet Witch/Quicksilver in the MCU)
5/3/19 - The Avengers: Infinity Gauntlet

These are my guesses. I'm really tempted to put an Iron Man 4 in there though (instead of Inhumans) because if Marvel has a story to tell, Disney has the pockets to get RDJ for another billion dollar go.

I also wouldn't be surprised at all if Marvel pushed up a movie to November 2016. Seeing as their 2 movies that year are so close together and they have more than enough time to get those wheels moving.
 
I'd also go as far as to say that 2020 will see Iron Man 4 which I hope is a great way to say goodbye to Robert Downey Jr. I'd use Zeke Stane as the antagonist so that the films will have gone full circle by doing a medley of Demon in a Bottle, Prelude to Armor Wars, The Five Nightmares, Stark Resilient and Inevitable. Have it all about Tony being brought down to rock bottom without his wealth, having to take Happy Hogan off of life support and facing an adversary who's out to avenge the villain from the first film. Ghost would be a secondary antagonist who's Zeke's right hand man/woman. Mandarin would be a business rival of Tony's who's a mysterious presence in the background. He's the one who hired Stane and Ghost so that he could have access to Tony's technology. Stane has other ideas and leaks Tony's data to the world so that ANYONE can be Iron Man. Tony would spend the second act as a drunken hobo before he gets his act together and managing to not only defeat Zeke Stane but also regain his wealth and start up a new company named Resilient while moving the Avengers to a mansion in downtown Manhattan. Also, Tony spares Zeke when he begs for death in contrast to Obediah. That leaves Iron Monger as a villain who's not only managed to bankrupt Tony Stark but also screwed over the Mandarin which sets up Iron Man 5 which would have a new actor playing Tony Stark while adapting Armor Wars and The Future as a prison break movie where Tony and Zeke have to team up to escape from Prometheus corporation and exposing the Mandarin to the world at large.

I'd also adapt Thor: Disassembled in Phase 4 so that Chris Hemsworth can also say goodbye to the role in a really epic way. Phase 3 should be about Loki, Hela and Enchantress. Phase 4 should be about Surtur and the finale where Loki throws out all his character development and embraces evil which leads to the deaths of EVERYONE and either Beta Ray Bill, Eric Masterson or whoever the new female Thor is would be the one who finds his hammer after the credits.

Chris Evans wants to retire from acting after Avengers 3 so his Phase 4 role would be 5-10 minutes as Steve Rogers before Crossbones kills him and forces Winter Soldier and Falcon to compete for the right to be Captain America. This leaves Sebastian Stan leading the cast for the Avengers of Phase 4 with a new actor playing Tony Stark and no Thor at all.

This in addition to Doctor Strange fighting Shuma Gorath, Hulk facing off against Red Hulk, Captain Marvel's therapist trying to kill her, the Guardians of the Galaxy fighting a sentient planet, the Inhumans dealing with terrigen mists released across the Earth and Black Panther dealing with how own son trying to usurp the throne. It's going to be a very busy phase. I'd also think of an Ant-Man sequel but I don't really know Scott Lang as well as Hank Pym so I can't comment on what the sequel should be.

I'd also use Phase 4 to debut Darkhawk, Blade and Ghost Rider. Darkhawk would be a YA coming of age story where a young man transitions into adulthood while dealing with amazing new powers. Blade would be about a vampire hunter stalking the streets of London. Ghost Rider would be a horror movie where a stuntman sells his soul and winds up transforming into a fallen angel when he least wants to to murder people which he absolutely doesn't want to do. Everyone he kills is evil and his main prey is a serial killer calling himself Scarecrow. The latter two would be hard-R films with Ghost Rider especially piling on the gore. Everything else would be PG-13 except possibly Doctor Strange which may just be a soft R for frightening images depending on how scary it is. Then again, Insidious got a PG-13 so Doctor Strange may also be so. I'd also keep Ghost Rider off the Avengers unlike every other solo hero in the MCU since he's just too dark of a character.

Moon Knight, She-Hulk, The Runaways, Punisher, Black Widow and Hawkeye can all be saved for TV during Phases 3 and 4 since all of those characters can be done on a TV budget.
 
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This is my guess.

7/17/15 - Ant-Man
5/6/16 - Captain America 3
7/8/16 - Dr. Strange
5/5/17 - Iron Man 4
7/28/17 - Captain Marvel
11/3/17 - Thor 3
5/4/18 - Guardians of the Galaxy 2
7/6/18 - Black Panther
11/2/18 - The Inhumans
5/3/19 - The Avengers 3
 
She's a pilot, yes, with a typical Top Gun Maverick pilot personality, who got her powers of flight and energy manipulation from a dying alien from whom she took her name. It's the same personality on the same journey with the same abilities. Not so much with War Machine... like... at all.

Now please don't take my statements as saying Carol has zero development or that Monica should be "Captain Marvel," but as you look at her villains, can you make a movie out of her fighting and evil sorcerer, adding Dr. Strange to the people she's redundant with. It's not just that they're undeveloped... they products of her redundant theme, so one of her villains comes from a military POW story that Cap would be more at home in. Several are X-Men villains, and several are Mar-Vell's villains. It's a gallery, but it's not very good, in terms of creating a unique story. But yes, her alien enemies and magical sorcerers have different names than the alien heroes' alien enemies and the magical heroes' magical enemies.

Sarah Day and Chewie are awesome unique characters I love, btw. Good point. But no, The X-Men did no steal Mystique from her, the X-Men made Ms. Marvel a relevant character and gave her a setting when she had none. When she left them to go be an Avenger, they kept their stuff, including the Chris Claremont created Mystique.

As you learn about the character's history, you see Monica actually does have unique villains in Brazillian crime lord Kristina Ramos and is the original foe of super strong Powderkeg, as well as origin story villains Ernesto Ramirez and Felipe Picaro, more products of her unique harbor patrol/dimensional energy/mad scientist cartels theme. So while I agree that Blackout and Moonstone are not unique rogues they are also not ones that fit better going against other superheroes, which says a lot about her as a unique character. And she also has unique supporting cast, even in her TWO solo issues. Think about the list you just gave for a character with two solo series, and then look at this one character who, with only two solo issues has two named parents with personalities, coworkers in Captain Ron Morgan, partner John Audain, family friends in Andre LeClaire in addition to love interests in the brothers Derek and Duane Freeman (IKR!), in *addition* to the Nextwave supporting cast and villains being unique to her amongst Avengers and potential solo heroes.

Carol is certainly the one pushed the most, but she is not the only one who can be shot on film, or the only one Feige and co have talked about. Tigra, Spectrum, Crystal, Firestar, Arachne and perhaps a couple others are all at least as full of potential as Captain Marvel and none of the others would be referred to a lesser female version of a male character. Yes, she's a strong, brave, admirable, respectable hero. So is Hal Jordan though...

Mystique first appeared in a Ms. Mavel issue. Also, the issues you just mentioned are only issues when Carol isn't part of an established universe. She's very much a product of the Marvel Universe and in many ways can't exist without that universe being established first. However, since characters like War Machine, Doctor Strange and Ronan the Accuser already exist, there's room for Carol. Monica now goes by Spectrum so I really doubt that she'd be Captain Marvel. I can still see her teaming up with Carol in a sequel though. The first CM film needs to be an alien abduction film which introduces the Supreme Intelligence and Yonn-Rogg along with Mahr-Vell and his children Phylla and Genis and may also feature a second appearance by Ronan if he survives GOTG. The sequel needs to be about Moonstone with the whole War of the Marvels storyline. I can see Monica debut here as a THIRD Captain Marvel trying to claim ownership of the name but she'd only have a small role. Spectrum wouldn't really have time to develop as a character until Captain Marvel 3.
 
I can't see people getting angry over Black Panther when it's the name of an actual animal. Were this Black Lightning or Black Goliath, I could see the issue.
 
IMO, there's a 40% chance we'll see Monica in the MCU with Agents of SHIELD and the expanded Marvel film schedule now. Her chances of showing up in the MCU have increased. Rosario Dawson was my top choice but since she's joining the MCU as another character (I am going to say Misty Knight), it will have to be someone else.

Of course if all of the major Hollywood trades say a certain named black actress is in talks for an unspecified role in an MCU movie, the logical thinking is that it's Monica.

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My new predictions:
5/6/16 - Captain America 3
7/8/16 - Dr. Strange
5/5/17 - Iron Man 4
7/28/17 - Captain Marvel
11/3/17 - Thor 3
5/4/18 - Nova or The Inhumans
7/6/18 - Black Panther
11/2/18 - Guardians of the Galaxy 2
5/3/19 - The Avengers 3

Phase 2 of the Netflix shows would be in here with Daredevil Season 2, Heroes for Hire (Cage, Fist, Jones & Misty), Moon Knight, Punisher & Cloak and Dagger.
 

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