Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides

[craigdbfan]

Huh the pretty girl is Spanish and French. Guess I wasn't that far off with the whole Mediterranean ancestry.

So seeing as Penelope Cruz is playing Blackbeards daughter are they going to retcon Blackbeard as a Spaniard?

Last I checked in Wikipedia he was a Brit.

 

[Rac]

I heard Will 2.0 is a preacher or clergyman or something, right?

Missionary named Philip.

 

[xwolverine2]

looks ok... rob marshall is no gore verbinski though.. so it looks visually a bit bland

 

[Rac]

looks ok... rob marshall is no gore verbinski though.. so it looks visually a bit bland

He's my biggest worry. I haven't see any of his films. Tried to watch Nine once, but ehh, couldn't get through it...

 

[Avengers-Report]

Good version of the trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZvWJS3RoTA

 

[Infinity9999x]

I agree with the "forced" sentiment. I just think that by not including him your kinda skimping out on cool oppurtunities, what with him being the Captain of the Flying Dutchman now.

He probably could be used in an interesting way in the films now. Though I'd probably keep him in a smaller role.

I just don't think he should have ended up as the Dutchman.

 

[Avengers-Report]

He probably could be used in an interesting way in the films now. Though I'd probably keep him in a smaller role.

I just don't think he should have ended up as the Dutchman.

So how should he have ended up?

 

[Specter313]

I quite enjoyed the trailer. Looking forward to this.

 

[craigdbfan]

He's my biggest worry. I haven't see any of his films. Tried to watch Nine once, but ehh, couldn't get through it...

Memoirs of Geisha is a pretty good movie. It has its critics but personally I enjoyed it very much.

Probably the best one to start out with. I haven't seen his other movies nor do I plan to I just have zero interest but by no means do I think he is a bad director its just the subject matter didn't interest me.

 

[ALP]

looks ok... rob marshall is no gore verbinski though.. so it looks visually a bit bland

Verbinski doesnt have a single stylized film outside of the Pirates trilogy. Again, comparing outside Pirates, I think Marshall trumps Verbinski in every way. I'd go so far as to say that Pirates only looked so interesting because of Bruckheimer.

 

[Secret Fawful]

So how should he have ended up?

King of the Pirates, IMO. Instead of Lizzy.

 

[Infinity9999x]

So how should he have ended up?

The way it ended at the end of the first Pirates. I had no desire to see his character after that. Will and Elizabeth's story was done after the first movie. Including them in the next two felt forced. I wished they had treated the Pirates franchise like the Indy films. Jack is the Indy of the series, and his crew are more or less like the Marcus/Salla characters who are in most of the films. The Will/Elizabeth characters are like the love interests in the Indy films, they're usually only in one.

If you really wanted to bring him back I wouldn't have minded if they had done another disconnected movie, then done one set a few years after. Maybe have Will go to Jack for help about something, or if it's a long ways after, maybe Will has a young son who wants to be a Pirate and meets Jack ect. ect.

Either way, I just don't think we needed Will or Elizabeth back after COTBP.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I liked 'Dead Man's Chest' but thought 'At Worlds End' was very poor and I had little interest in a 4th Pirates movie...however that trailer totally won me over, it looks like a return to the original movie in being a rip roaring stand alone adventure, it looks great fun! t:

 

[Ipodman]

Trailer looks good... Mermaids? YEA!!!

Zombies? meh.

 

[lime]

I dont like the trailer that mutch. And one thing (aside for Jack) that was sinonimos with POTC was the amazing visual effects. I don't even remember to have CG in that trailer?

But the movie looks not like fantasy (like 2 and 3) but like fun adventure (like the first) and that's cool.

Favorite scene was:

 

[Ipodman]

yea it feels like it's going in the right direction.

 

[samsnee]

If you watch it without the sound on, it looks kind of boring visually.

 

[Ipodman]

The jungle looks better than Pandora... because it's real!!!1

 

[echostation]

doesn't look fresh at all... seems so damn boring.

 

[ALP]

I dont like the trailer that mutch. And one thing (aside for Jack) that was sinonimos with POTC was the amazing visual effects. I don't even remember to have CG in that trailer?

But the movie looks not like fantasy (like 2 and 3) but like fun adventure (like the first) and that's cool.

The first film was riddled with fantasy. Or did some of you guys just not notice the ship full of undead zombie Pirates that turned into skeletons under the moonlight

Guys...the reason there isn't that much CG in the trailer is because the film just wrapped shooting less than a month ago. The last day of shooting was November 19. There will no doubt be tons of CGI but it's not even fully rendered yet.

On another note, Johnny Depp made $55 Million for this film. Gets that sum for each Pirate film. And on one last note, this film is actually an adaptation of the book "On Stranger Tide," Disney bought the rights to the book in 2007. What they did was just change the main characters in the book to be Jack and Barbosa.

 

[mclay18]

looks ok... rob marshall is no gore verbinski though.. so it looks visually a bit bland

I don't really notice a huge stylistic jump from Gore Verbinski to Rob Marshall in this film. For one, Dariusz Wolski's been the DP since the first film. Since Wolski is back for a fourth time, the movie looks pretty consistent even with a new director and production designer.

And they've shot this film with the Red One, which reduces camera set up times (no film loader needed in addition to lighter camera bodies). Additionally, it allows the production to be shot in stereoscopic 3D.

 

[Octoberist]

I liked the trailer.

The only problem is that (and it's a nitpick) I could tell it's digital.

 

[DACrowe]

I honestly thought they should have left Will and Elizabeth alone after the first movie. Their story was done there. They just felt forced in the next two movies.

And to be honest, I don't mind Bloom, but Will as a character just wasn't all that interesting. He was the typical straight hero. He played the part well, but I wasn't dying to see him again.

Agreed. Turning Will and Elizabeth into this tragic star-crossed lovers story in part 3 was really lame. It just did not work. Sometimes a basic fairy tale Disney romance works and it went off flawlessly for them in the first film. While I did like the sexual tension between her and Jack in the second movie. Also, she was more of a true Pirate than Will--by stealing the letters from the bad British guy, instead of doing his bidding, and then falling into the pirate crew seamlessly as opposed to becoming their puppet like Will did--but her actually falling for Sparrow was lame and forced.

And in the third they really had nothing to do but bicker and Norrington got the shaft when him becoming a pirate in POTC2 was a clever idea left untapped. So much wasted potential in the sequels all around.

Which is why I mostly pretend POTC is a stand alone and if this is good, it's the first sequel (mind you I have no explaining how Barbossa would be back, but still).

 

[DACrowe]

Man...this girl is really good looking. If she's got a fairly big part in this, and if she pulls it off well, I can see her showing up more in Hollywood. She has a really nice, "classic" look to her - doesn't really look like the typical young starlet these days. Very pretty.

First we'll have to see how big her part is and how good she is. But hey, Knightley struck me as ridiculously gorgeous in the trailer for POTC1 as well and after I saw the movie, she struck me as someone who could be a real movie star and is just not an "it girl" at that moment (like Kirsten Dunst in 2002 or Megan Fox in 2007-2009). So perhaps.

But first let's see how she does in the movie. Personally I like the mermaid angle, but I hope an earnest love story is not a major part of this movie.

 

[DACrowe]

He's my biggest worry. I haven't see any of his films. Tried to watch Nine once, but ehh, couldn't get through it...

Chicago is a great movie. If you don't like musicals, then I guess it is a lost cause. But if you're going to try one out watch the one that won the Oscar for Best Picture for its sheer entertainment value--not the one that everyone (even people who like musicals and Italian cinema) that was really boring.