Pixar's SOUL

[KaijuDude1992]

Even though I knew it was coming the Knicks gag still had me rolling.

That was easily the funniest part of the movie IMO.

 

[Albright]

I thought this wasn’t as good as Inside Out. I was expecting more time exploring the great before/beyond.

I thought that the ending with “2nd chance” was rushed and felt misplaced. I bet, that they changed their mind pretty late for him not dying.

The most ridiculous thing: if I have an accident and fall into coma, my emergency contacts would’ve known. No one knew, he was injured that bad (btw also ridiculous, that he was able to move like nothing happened after he woke up). He might have a difficult relationship with his mother, but it felt, that they’re still in contact regularly

 

[TheVileOne]

That was easily the funniest part of the movie IMO.

As a Houston Rockets fan who lived through Rockets vs. Knicks in 1994, I loved that joke all the more.

 

[Holy Slapper]

This was really good. Probably the best film of the year. The shots fired at the Knicks made me pause the movie.

 

[thangaran]

Nice film. Bravo makers of c’est la vie motion picture

 

[samsnee]

The only thing that bothered me is the idea that he’s the first person to die unexpectedly and try to escape from the great beyond. And then he could so easily pass as a mentor and fool all the Jerry’s.

 

[NDX]

This was very good. If they released a limited run when theaters open up again I'll try and see it

 

[TheVileOne]

This was very good. If they released a limited run when theaters open up again I'll try and see it

I'd very much like to see it on a big screen because of all the visual eye candy.

 

[Silvermoth]

Yeah it was really good, return to form for Pixar. It’s great they didn’t need an “oh no the world is ending in ten minutes” type story for this. It was just super character driven. Love it, will definitely need to watch it a few times

 

[Detective Conan]

Just got done watching this movie. I laughed and nearly cried. This is not only one of the best Pixar films, it’s one of the best movies I’ve seen in a long time. Powerful stuff.

 

[NDX]

I've been passing on buying Disney DVDs thanks to Disney+ but I will own this one.

 

[Detective Conan]

Apparently there’s a bit of a controversy over the movie because of

Spoiler

the body swapping aspect of the film between 22 and Joe. The film is being accused of doing something that’s basically animated black face” because 22 (voiced by a white woman) takes over a black man’s body. A lot of people feel they should’ve cast a black woman as 22 to avoid this issue...even though 22 isn’t human and it’s an animated.

As a black dude myself I didn’t mind, nor care but did anyone here find that aspect of the film problematic? I think the whole controversy is kind of silly.

 

[Arachnerd]

I don't recall which publication posted that article, but it seems like something only Twitter checkmarks would complain about.

 

[Kev4000]

Apparently there’s a bit of a controversy over the movie because...

Spoiler

of the body swapping aspect of the film because the film is being accused of doing “animated black face” because 22 voiced by a white woman takes over a black man’s body. A lot of people feel they should’ve cast a black woman as 22 to avoid this issue...even though 22 isn’t human and it’s an animated cartoon.

As a black dude myself I didn’t mind, nor care but did anyone here find that aspect of the film problematic? I think the whole controversy is kind of silly.

Spoiler

Things become crazy in film industry. That is really worthy for a ****storm? I totall agree that POC be played by POC but it is a body swap, one of the typical tropes which includes voice swap. So there is no need to be angry about it.

 

[terry78]

It's a common trope films have been doing for decades, hence the comedy.

 

[zephyrinthesky]

Blackface ridicules black people by exaggerating stereotypes for comedy. Nothing about "blackness" was played for laughs as far as I could tell. A black man teaches a "white" (which the movie even explains is just 22 picking a voice) soul how to live.

People are looking for outrage to get attention.

 

[OtherwiseKnownAs]

Just got done watching this. Great stuff, the only part that didn’t sit right with me was the last minute “second chance.”

 

[TheVileOne]

Anyone who would complain about that for this film, that's a pretty disgusting complaint, and I have no respect for anyone who agrees with it.

This movie celebrates African American culture and people of color. Most of the immediate cast are also people of color. It reflects the diverse melting pot of New York City.

 

[TheVileOne]

Blackface ridicules black people by exaggerating stereotypes for comedy. Nothing about "blackness" was played for laughs as far as I could tell. A black man teaches a "white" (which the movie even explains is just 22 picking a voice) soul how to live.

People are looking for outrage to get attention.

She's not even a white soul. She's a soul and she can really have any voice she wants. This movie celebrates African American culture, music, and also puts a diverse cast at the forefront. You see lots of other positive, optimistic characters who are diverse and are in no way stereotypical.

This is dumb to even raise this issue.

Spoiler

Secondly, the movie's narrative even makes it clear when 22 is speaking in Joe's body, that people hear Joe's voice.

Thirdly, when 22 is talking as Joe and you hear her voice, she's not taking on a male black person's accent or trying to act or sound black. So to call it blackface is a misnomer.

EDIT:

You want to know who is really outraged over this BS? A few scattered users on Twitter. That's it. A few people raised a stink about this on Twitter and then other websites reported on it.

Like hell, why are scattered complaints from randos suddenly national news? They're not. This is hot garbage.

 

[Da-Scribe]

As a black person, I loved this movie. But yes, Tina Fey’s voice was an odd choice for me given where things lead. Not a big enough deal to detract in any significant way from the film, but it was a bit off-putting.

I do hope this is the last time I have to watch a black person turn into something else though.

 

[Persona]

If someone black was offended by it, who am I to say otherwise, you know.

But I saw a white person complaining about it on Twitter, and that just kind of ticked me off. Retweet a black person's criticism, don't go posting your own supposed outrage about something like this.

And maybe if it was something egregious I'd feel different, but 22 is a non-racial character and the section of the film in question is never played up for stereotypes. Also, the co-writer/director of the movie and most of the principal cast is black, so as a white person I think I need to have more respect for what they chose to create vs. what some white person trying to be extra woke on Twitter thinks.

That said, I do see what the basis of the argument could be and if it left some black people feeling off about the movie, that's legitimate and it sucks that that creative decision played out like that for them.

 

[TheVileOne]

But how is it blackface?

 

[Persona]

But how is it blackface?

I do think it is a bit of a leap given that the concept of what's happening in the narrative has nothing to do with blackface.

I come back to the fact that Kemp Powers is a black man who is one of the writers and directors of the film. I'd like to know if he had an issue with the casting of Tina Fey.

 

[zephyrinthesky]

I think there's a small but insufferably-vocal minority of people who feel a film must have an all-black/all-Latino/all-POC cast to not sideline the POC characters.

 

[ironwez20]

Apparently there’s a bit of a controversy over the movie because of

Spoiler

the body swapping aspect of the film between 22 and Joe. The film is being accused of doing something that’s basically animated black face” because 22 (voiced by a white woman) takes over a black man’s body. A lot of people feel they should’ve cast a black woman as 22 to avoid this issue...even though 22 isn’t human and it’s an animated.

As a black dude myself I didn’t mind, nor care but did anyone here find that aspect of the film problematic? I think the whole controversy is kind of silly.

Sigh..... lemme guess. Twitter?