Playstation 3 becomes fastest selling console in UK history

The Wii is blatently going to be outselling the 360 before long. The PS3 will take a little longer to get there, but will indeed get there.

Naturally, 360 is currently in the lead. It does have a 12 month advantage on the competition.
 
The Wii is blatently going to be outselling the 360 before long. The PS3 will take a little longer to get there, but will indeed get there.

Naturally, 360 is currently in the lead. It does have a 12 month advantage on the competition.

I agree with that. The wii appeals to those who aren't real, true gamers, as well as women and kids. So it probably will end up winning.

But PS3 is gonna be in third place when it's all said and done.
 
Just because someone owns a Wii doesn't mean they won't appreciate great graphics, Kritish...

No, that's just what happens when you ask them why Nintendo didn't put a better graphics card in their console. :o
 
I agree with that. The wii appeals to those who aren't real, true gamers, as well as women and kids. So it probably will end up winning.

You are freakin deluded. But go ahead, play your pitiful, piss-poor games on your 360, inwardly knowing the games you're playing will never have a place among the best games of all time because of their severe lack of single-player experiences and poor grasp of game mechanics. There's a reason why at least six of the games in the majority of top ten lists are Nintendo games, with the top three games almost invariably being either Super Mario Bros., Ocarina of Time, or Super Mario 64. Nintendo also has four titles on the best-rated games of all time list on GameRankings.

And by the way, Gears of War didn't win Game of the Year on the majority of gaming outlets last year. Zelda did. And I'm sure we'll have more to talk about when Super Mario Galaxy or Metroid Prime 3: Corruption wins GOTY this year.

But PS3 is gonna be in third place when it's all said and done.

This I can agree upon.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=23977
 
You are freakin deluded. But go ahead, play your pitiful, piss-poor games on your 360, inwardly knowing the games you're playing will never have a place among the best games of all time because of their severe lack of single-player experiences and poor grasp of game mechanics. There's a reason why at least six of the games in the majority of top ten lists are Nintendo games, with the top three games almost invariably being either Super Mario Bros., Ocarina of Time, or Super Mario 64. Nintendo also has four titles on the best-rated games of all time list on GameRankings.

And by the way, Gears of War didn't win Game of the Year on the majority of gaming outlets last year. Zelda did. And I'm sure we'll have more to talk about when Super Mario Galaxy or Metroid Prime 3: Corruption wins GOTY this year.



This I can agree upon.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=23977

You know, I was like you not too long ago. I was kinda childish and although my reasons were no doubt more intelligent than yours and at least somewhat credible, I still took this console war thing way too seriously. I decided that it's not worth the energy.

I'm also not sure where you were, but in the UK, Gears of War swept up most GOTY awards in our gaming press (the finest gaming press in the world, I might add). Zelda got one or two, but Gears pwned it, even in Gamesmaster (which is pretty much a nintendo ass monkey).

Plus, why do YOU care what wins what award? Does that give you a hard on, knowing that a bunch of sheep all decide the same thing? Do forgive me, but I can make up my own mind on what games I like. You sound like the stereotypical guy (no offense) who only goes on what's popular and what's winning awards, like those arthouse movie fans who only like the oscar winners and think that critical acclaim is the be all, end all of it.

I have my own taste. Quite frankly, I could give a damn if games I love win awards or not. I have Dead Rising and Gears of War and Condemned (sadly since Nintendo's core audience is 12 year olds and women, I highly doubt yuo have played any of them to judge :p). But seriously, you should develop your own taste and not let awards and polls decide for you what you should like. You will pleasantly surprise yourself.

The fact is, Nintendo's titles haven't changed at all since the 80s. They do the same cutesy platformers with warm, feel good messages that they have always had. They are, in my opinion, stagnant. There's only so many cutesy platformers I personally can take. I prefer something that challenges me on complex levels, especially in terms of mature stories and characters which you won't find on Nintendo consoles for the most part (yes I know you are going to try and convince me that a little elfin guy running around killing cartoon monsters is somehow deep, but I won't buy it so don't waste your breath).

If you want to enjoy those type of games forever, be my guest. I like more mature things personally, but whatever floats your boat, floats your boat. But I am 98% sure the gaming fanbase for wii are women, kids and those who don't normally play games. I'm not critising that at all, I mean it works for the console. I'm sincerely not bashing it for appealing to a different audience. I want one myself at some point. But the serious gamer has only two choices: 360 and PS3. The wii just can't match them in what it can do, and what it can present. I feel like I am living in the games universes on 360, whereas on wii, so far all I have seen look sub psone graphics wise (and when you want competent, intelligent storytelling, graphics are important).

I'm just trying to tell you this. Deep down, I think you know I am right. But your love of Nintendo will never let you admit it. I probably wasted my life writing this post, hoping a part of you may see sense and reality, and maybe even break free of the shackles of what you have been told to like, and start deciding for yourself.
 
You know, I was like you not too long ago. I was kinda childish and although my reasons were no doubt more intelligent than yours and at least somewhat credible, I still took this console war thing way too seriously. I decided that it's not worth the energy.

Well, I'm glad we've established we're mature enough to see beyond brand loyalty (if you've followed my post history, I actually stated that I've given up on the console war, but there's an occasional rant now and again), but I take it as an insult to suggest that you're reasoning was somehow more "intelligent" or "credible," especially when you talk like this:

The fact is, Nintendo's titles haven't changed at all since the 80s. They do the same cutesy platformers with warm, feel good messages that they have always had. They are, in my opinion, stagnant.

I mean, where have you been for the past 20 years? Nintendo games have constantly been changing, innovating. To suggest no change from Super Mario Bros. (NES) to Super Mario 64 (N64), perhaps the two most influential games in the industry, is mind-boggling. It's like you need a crash-course in game design and mechanics. Perhaps, you're only inspecting these games on the surface.

...Surely you can appreciate poetry, right? Literary minds analyze a poem's different parts like its meter, rhythm, rhyme scheme, etc. to help discern a greater meaning and the author's intent. The end result is an understanding of the poem that equates to more than the sum of its parts. The same is true of Nintendo games; they are rich in these types of subtle graces. Whereas other games forego these fundamental mechanics to emphasize the gratification of the player, Nintendo takes the time to perfect both flash and substance.

But to lecture you further would probably worsen things, so let's just leave it at that. I respect that you have different tastes, but don't be so quick to say that Wii is targeted for "women and kids" when clearly the demographic eating up the Wii is so much the contrary.
 
Well, I'm glad we've established we're mature enough to see beyond brand loyalty (if you've followed my post history, I actually stated that I've given up on the console war, but there's an occasional rant now and again), but I take it as an insult to suggest that you're reasoning was somehow more "intelligent" or "credible," especially when you talk like this:



I mean, where have you been for the past 20 years? Nintendo games have constantly been changing, innovating. To suggest no change from Super Mario Bros. (NES) to Super Mario 64 (N64), perhaps the two most influential games in the industry, is mind-boggling. It's like you need a crash-course in game design and mechanics. Perhaps, you're only inspecting these games on the surface.

...Surely you can appreciate poetry, right? Literary minds analyze a poem's different parts like its meter, rhythm, rhyme scheme, etc. to help discern a greater meaning and the author's intent. The end result is an understanding of the poem that equates to more than the sum of its parts. The same is true of Nintendo games; they are rich in these types of subtle graces. Whereas other games forego these fundamental mechanics to emphasize the gratification of the player, Nintendo takes the time to perfect both flash and substance.

But to lecture you further would probably worsen things, so let's just leave it at that. I respect that you have different tastes, but don't be so quick to say that Wii is targeted for "women and kids" when clearly the demographic eating up the Wii is so much the contrary.


I still say the wii's target is women and kids. You know why it's selling so well? It appeals to non gamers. Honestly, that's not even an insult. It's cool that it can do that. But I can promise you that most hardcore gamers will have a 360 and PS3 with a wii as the ''acessory'', and won't be using it as a main console (unless they are hardcore nintendo philes)..

You took my comment the wrong way. The wii's audience is NOT the same as ps3/ 360.
 
Yeah as I've been saying/preaching, personally I couldn't see myself just getting a Wii. It'd have to be with another console. Especially because there'll be like 5 good games for it this year.
 
I prefer something that challenges me on complex levels...

Out of curiosity, can you please tell me which games on the 360 you are currently enjoying with "complex level" design? I mean, the primary complaint of most critics is the restrictive and linear nature of most 360 games, Gears of War being the prime example. It's essentially getting from point A to point B, with no amount of complexity or developer effort at all. And if you're implying that Nintendo games don't have rich level design, I think you're reverting to old self, where loyalties blind you from acknowledging the strengths of other games.

especially in terms of mature stories and characters which you won't find on Nintendo consoles for the most part (yes I know you are going to try and convince me that a little elfin guy running around killing cartoon monsters is somehow deep, but I won't buy it so don't waste your breath).

And neither will acknowledge the number of so-called "mature" games as having "deep" stories with "deep" characters.
 
Out of curiosity, can you please tell me which games on the 360 you are currently enjoying with "complex level" design? I mean, the primary complaint of most critics is the restrictive and linear nature of most 360 games, Gears of War being the prime example. It's essentially getting from point A to point B, with no amount of complexity or developer effort at all. And if you're implying that Nintendo games don't have rich level design, I think you're reverting to old self, where loyalties blind you from acknowledging the strengths of other games.



And neither will acknowledge the number of so-called "mature" games as having "deep" stories with "deep" characters.


I meant storyline wise. Plus, it has the best graphics ever, and it's plain fun. And if any nintendo game can put me into a war where not everything is explained to you, and you have to figure a lot out for yourself by the things you see and what your enemies say, then tell me.

There is NOTHING on wii, as yet, that promises to have the characters of say a Kane and Lynch. Dead Rising deals with complex issues such as terrorism and modern day social problems. Again, on 360.

That's what I like.
 
why is this turning into a Wii vs 360 thread. LOL...let's get back to the topic at hand, PS3
 
LOL If you insist. But it wasn't a vs thread. I want a wii at some point, when some games Im interested in come out (day of disaster, sadness, resident evil and manhunt 2 among some others). Just pointing out it's a totally different audience.

I am not being biased with these news pieces btw, they just relate to this:

Playstation Sales plunge by 82%:

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/04/03/playstation-3-sales-plunge-82-in-uk/
PlayStation 3 sales plunge 82% in UK

Posted Apr 3rd 2007 1:24PM by Ludwig Kietzmann
Filed under: Sony PlayStation 3, Business
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=23977After obliterating records upon its launch in the UK last week, PlayStation 3 sales have come down to Earth with all the grace of a skydiving walrus using an anvil for a parachute. Citing the latest Chart Track data, a GamesIndustry.biz report discloses that sales for Sony's system have dropped by 82% in the last week. Having sold an estimated 165,000 units before, the percentage represents a drop of 135,300 units, resulting in total sales of 29,700 systems for the week.

Previously, it was stated that the initial PS3 shipment for the UK numbered 220,000. With 55,000 units remaining after the first week and without considering any subsequent stock, it means that the PS3 sold an estimated 54% of its remaining stock. Compared to the 75% of stock sold in its initial week, it still makes for a notable 21% drop. Though the days are early yet and the PS3's overall performance in the country (and the rest of Europe) has yet to be assessed, things look to have slowed down quickly and considerably.
 
And by the way, Gears of War didn't win Game of the Year on the majority of gaming outlets last year. Zelda did.

Really? Mind listing all the gaming outlets that gave Zelda GOTY award over Gears of War? With links and sources please.

Because there's no way Twilight Princess got this many awards:
  • IGN's Best of 2006
    • Xbox 360 Game of the Year [20]
    • Best Action Game [21]
    • Best Xbox 360 Action Game [22]
    • Best Graphics Technology [23]
    • Best Graphics Technology for Xbox 360 [24]
    • Best Developer for Xbox 360 (Epic Games) [25]
  • 2006 Spike TV Video Game Awards
    • Best Multiplayer Game
    • Best Shooter
    • Best Graphics
    • Best Studio (Epic Games)
  • D.I.C.E 07
    • Overall Game of the Year
    • Console Game of the Year
    • Outstanding Achievement in Animation
    • Outstanding Achievement in Art Direction
    • Outstanding Character Performance - Male
    • Outstanding Achievement in Online Game Play
    • Outstanding Achievement in Visual Engineering
    • Action/Adventure Game of the Year
Most important of all the awards, is the Game of the Year award by the Academy of Interactive Arts and Science announced at GDC 07 where game developers collectively voted for Gears of War to take home the most trophies, including the coveted 'Game of the Year' title. Eat your heart out, Nintendork. :up:

And I'm sure we'll have more to talk about when Super Mario Galaxy or Metroid Prime 3: Corruption wins GOTY this year.
Pfft, Gears of War, Bioshock and Mass Effect already beat those two games at last year's E3.
 
Really? Mind listing all the gaming outlets that gave Zelda GOTY award over Gears of War? With links and sources please.

Because there's no way Twilight Princess got this many awards:
  • IGN's Best of 2006
    • Xbox 360 Game of the Year [20]
    • Best Action Game [21]
    • Best Xbox 360 Action Game [22]
    • Best Graphics Technology [23]
    • Best Graphics Technology for Xbox 360 [24]
    • Best Developer for Xbox 360 (Epic Games) [25]
  • 2006 Spike TV Video Game Awards
    • Best Multiplayer Game
    • Best Shooter
    • Best Graphics
    • Best Studio (Epic Games)
  • D.I.C.E 07
    • Overall Game of the Year
    • Console Game of the Year
    • Outstanding Achievement in Animation
    • Outstanding Achievement in Art Direction
    • Outstanding Character Performance - Male
    • Outstanding Achievement in Online Game Play
    • Outstanding Achievement in Visual Engineering
    • Action/Adventure Game of the Year
Most important of all the awards, is the Game of the Year award by the Academy of Interactive Arts and Science announced at GDC 07 where game developers collectively voted for Gears of War to take home the most trophies, including the coveted 'Game of the Year' title. Eat your heart out, Nintendork. :up:

Pfft, Gears of War, Bioshock and Mass Effect already beat those two games at last year's E3.

Fenrir, one day I will marry you :heart:
 
LOL If you insist. But it wasn't a vs thread. I want a wii at some point, when some games Im interested in come out (day of disaster, sadness, resident evil and manhunt 2 among some others). Just pointing out it's a totally different audience.

I am not being biased with these news pieces btw, they just relate to this:

Playstation Sales plunge by 82%:

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/04/03/playstation-3-sales-plunge-82-in-uk/
PlayStation 3 sales plunge 82% in UK

Posted Apr 3rd 2007 1:24PM by Ludwig Kietzmann
Filed under: Sony PlayStation 3, Business
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=23977After obliterating records upon its launch in the UK last week, PlayStation 3 sales have come down to Earth with all the grace of a skydiving walrus using an anvil for a parachute. Citing the latest Chart Track data, a GamesIndustry.biz report discloses that sales for Sony's system have dropped by 82% in the last week. Having sold an estimated 165,000 units before, the percentage represents a drop of 135,300 units, resulting in total sales of 29,700 systems for the week.

Previously, it was stated that the initial PS3 shipment for the UK numbered 220,000. With 55,000 units remaining after the first week and without considering any subsequent stock, it means that the PS3 sold an estimated 54% of its remaining stock. Compared to the 75% of stock sold in its initial week, it still makes for a notable 21% drop. Though the days are early yet and the PS3's overall performance in the country (and the rest of Europe) has yet to be assessed, things look to have slowed down quickly and considerably.

well yeah of course that would happen
 
LOL If you insist. But it wasn't a vs thread. I want a wii at some point, when some games Im interested in come out (day of disaster, sadness, resident evil and manhunt 2 among some others). Just pointing out it's a totally different audience.

I am not being biased with these news pieces btw, they just relate to this:

Playstation Sales plunge by 82%:

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/04/03/playstation-3-sales-plunge-82-in-uk/
PlayStation 3 sales plunge 82% in UK

Posted Apr 3rd 2007 1:24PM by Ludwig Kietzmann
Filed under: Sony PlayStation 3, Business
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=23977After obliterating records upon its launch in the UK last week, PlayStation 3 sales have come down to Earth with all the grace of a skydiving walrus using an anvil for a parachute. Citing the latest Chart Track data, a GamesIndustry.biz report discloses that sales for Sony's system have dropped by 82% in the last week. Having sold an estimated 165,000 units before, the percentage represents a drop of 135,300 units, resulting in total sales of 29,700 systems for the week.

Previously, it was stated that the initial PS3 shipment for the UK numbered 220,000. With 55,000 units remaining after the first week and without considering any subsequent stock, it means that the PS3 sold an estimated 54% of its remaining stock. Compared to the 75% of stock sold in its initial week, it still makes for a notable 21% drop. Though the days are early yet and the PS3's overall performance in the country (and the rest of Europe) has yet to be assessed, things look to have slowed down quickly and considerably.
yeah I read about that bit. Guess Sony will just have to wait and see how it fairs over their over the next few months bc the first week isnt exactly indicative of a success
 
The French didn't buy any. I hate to say this, but they've officially earned my respect.
 
I meant storyline wise. Plus, it has the best graphics ever, and it's plain fun. And if any nintendo game can put me into a war where not everything is explained to you, and you have to figure a lot out for yourself by the things you see and what your enemies say, then tell me.

There is NOTHING on wii, as yet, that promises to have the characters of say a Kane and Lynch. Dead Rising deals with complex issues such as terrorism and modern day social problems. Again, on 360.

That's what I like.

I've played Gears of War and Dead Rising and c'mon those games have very little substance. They didn't receive a mature rating for story content, they received it for gore and language. I'm not saying they aren't fun, they're both a blast to play, but complex story issues? Not really. Dead Rising's story has been told in countless zombie-movies and Gears of War in countless postapocalyptic movies. That being said, Zelda is mostly the same old save the princess, save the world story, but it's still fun and plays incredibly well and in my opinion much more worth the money because the experience lasts a LOT longer (admittedly, I haven't got into Gears of War Live Multiplayer though). I'll take lower graphics over longer gameplay anyday. I'm glad I have both a 360 and Wii, 360 for the "mature"/hardcore games and Wii for innovation and Nintendo franchises.
 
well yeah of course that would happen

Yes of course a drop would happen, but 82% is a HUGE drop. Not your regular, run of the mill drop, but it's basically like throwing an anvil out of a plane and watching it fall fast to the ground.
 
I've played Gears of War and Dead Rising and c'mon those games have very little substance. They didn't receive a mature rating for story content, they received it for gore and language. I'm not saying they aren't fun, they're both a blast to play, but complex story issues? Not really. Dead Rising's story has been told in countless zombie-movies and Gears of War in countless postapocalyptic movies. That being said, Zelda is mostly the same old save the princess, save the world story, but it's still fun and plays incredibly well and in my opinion much more worth the money because the experience lasts a LOT longer (admittedly, I haven't got into Gears of War Live Multiplayer though). I'll take lower graphics over longer gameplay anyday. I'm glad I have both a 360 and Wii, 360 for the "mature"/hardcore games and Wii for innovation and Nintendo franchises.

I'm not sure if you paid attention to Dead Rising or Gear's story, no offense...

In Dead Rising, the biggest threat to you aren't the zombies, it's your fellow man (a pretty big message to miss, btw). Also, the whole incident was caused by Carlito, who was a terrorist (even planned to blow himself and the mall up to spread the infection) but in his eyes was justified due to the american military's experiments unleashing the zombie plague on his village and then wiping everyone there out. That's not your typical evil bad guy. What he does is evil, but you can see why he did it. It's a complex situation, and his sister is dragged into it as well. It's a big slab of Romero endorsed social and political satire that I honestly don't see how anyone could miss.

Gears isn't quite as deep, but there's a lot more to the story than you might think at first, providing you pay attention. You think you are fighting for honor and good and blah blah blah, but if you notice the propoganda, a lot of it mentions immulsion, and how you are fighting the fight for immulsion, not to mention the fact that you have come to serra as it wasn't your natural homeland (immulsion could easily be replaced by oil, and serra iraq, if you wanted to draw those parrallells.) Then there's the fact that a lot of people seem to think the reason the locusts fight is because they NEED immulsion as a matter of survival, which is why there is so much of it in their ''hive'', and then the locusts call you at different times ''aliens'' and ''invaders''. It's not a matter, it seems of simply the locust being evil. But most of this it's up to YOU to draw conclusions from and think about, it's not spelt out in any clear terms.

Plus Wii really isn't THAT innovative...arcade games and those television games have been using those kinda controls for years before now. Wii is just the first to implement it into a console.
 
Yes of course a drop would happen, but 82% is a HUGE drop. Not your regular, run of the mill drop, but it's basically like throwing an anvil out of a plane and watching it fall fast to the ground.

Yep, it is a big drop, given the items' price it still doesn't surprise me. I think the more key number is how it does this week. If it stabilizes around 30,000 a week, that's not too bad right now
 
Yes of course a drop would happen, but 82% is a HUGE drop. Not your regular, run of the mill drop, but it's basically like throwing an anvil out of a plane and watching it fall fast to the ground.

Actually I'd think an 82% drop in the first week would be typical for a game console like this. When you think about it, most people who really wanted the system got it in the first few days it was out, there were no shortages of systems so everyone that wanted one got one. It's not like a movie where you need to devote hours of your time, you can pick one up during lunch or on your way home. The craziness in the US, wasn't going to happen because there wasn't system shortages and it's not the holiday season. PS3 was destined to have a huge drop second week, the question now becomes what will be the average weekly sales, that's a much better gauge of success.
 
sells dropping 82 % is'nt bad for a country like the UK. the population is small compared to the US. and yeah everyone who wanted the system already got it.
 

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