Plot Hole Of The Week Thread

[Ratcrawler]

Because nothing says "I love this show!" more than pointing out it's shortcomings!

Commitment had a few doozies.

This week's biggest plot hole center's around a common misconception Hollywood sPoonfeeds us about Lie Detectors. Portrayed as a device that can automatically tell if a person is lying, what it actually does is measure stress signs. And when you're tied up to an electric chair in a madman's basement, every answer you give is going to come off as a "lie".

Furthermore, Jigsaw Lite just went right into the test without any control questions, but considering the horror scenario, they would have probably been pretty worthless anyway.

2nd place goes to Clark grabbing the Kryptonite watch, ripping it off Jigsaw's hand, blasting open a pipe with his heat ray right in front of Lois (I think) and when he unchained her, his bruise and bloody lip were (understandably to us) perfectly healed. An Ace Reporter like Lane should have noticed that though.

Honorable mention goes to why Jigsaw wore a kryptonite watch when in disguise but not at work in the jewelery store.

 

[Ratcrawler]

Toxic- Years ago, Oliver Queen was stranded on a desert island for two years and got shaves and haircuts regularly.

Instinct- If it looks like Lindsay Lohan, Talks like Lindsay Lohan and dresses like Lindsay Lohan it's a super-powered extra-terrestrial queen. Not really a plot hole, just insulting to my intelligence.

 

[javphonic]

Because nothing says "I love this show!" more than pointing out it's shortcomings!

Commitment had a few doozies.

This week's biggest plot hole center's around a common misconception Hollywood sPoonfeeds us about Lie Detectors. Portrayed as a device that can automatically tell if a person is lying, what it actually does is measure stress signs. And when you're tied up to an electric chair in a madman's basement, every answer you give is going to come off as a "lie".

Furthermore, Jigsaw Lite just went right into the test without any control questions, but considering the horror scenario, they would have probably been pretty worthless anyway.

2nd place goes to Clark grabbing the Kryptonite watch, ripping it off Jigsaw's hand, blasting open a pipe with his heat ray right in front of Lois (I think) and when he unchained her, his bruise and bloody lip were (understandably to us) perfectly healed. An Ace Reporter like Lane should have noticed that though.

Honorable mention goes to why Jigsaw wore a kryptonite watch when in disguise but not at work in the jewelery store.

true, I though the same about the lie detector test situation, but I let it slide, but what really got to me was the fact that Clark heat blasted the pump and had no bruises and Lois though nothing of this... redeeming qualities the relationships of the show blossoming, some for the worst and some for the better, 'specially Clark and Lois, mad funny how Clark was dissapointed when she told him she slipped off the fingerpiece and was lieing, lol

 

[Ratcrawler]

Indeed. I'm really liking Lois & Clark's relationship. I don't miss Lana at all.

 

[Webhead2006]

Well we know his heat vision is viewable to folks only what it causes they see. Though lois was a bit out of there from the shot from the jewler guy.

 

[Mikelus]

The whole lie detector thing is not 100% reliable in real life anyway, but some still believe it works.
Regarding heat vision, we could say Lois was looking at the guy after Clark knocked him down or that heat vision is not visible to humans. Oliver "the islander", if the guy could fabricate arches and arrows (even a hood!), then cutting his hair "primitive style" is not impossible, though shaving is more complicated though. So, there are holes in the plot holes thread too.

The biggest plot hole of the series is the whole Veritas thing and Grant Gabriel being a Julian Luthor clone, that was completely retconned.

 

[javphonic]

Just gotta add, how come Lois didn't suspect something after she saw the guy on the table across the room? and did she ever ask how he got free?

 

[Syncos]

Because nothing says "I love this show!" more than pointing out it's shortcomings!

Commitment had a few doozies.

This week's biggest plot hole center's around a common misconception Hollywood sPoonfeeds us about Lie Detectors. Portrayed as a device that can automatically tell if a person is lying, what it actually does is measure stress signs. And when you're tied up to an electric chair in a madman's basement, every answer you give is going to come off as a "lie".

Furthermore, Jigsaw Lite just went right into the test without any control questions, but considering the horror scenario, they would have probably been pretty worthless anyway.

2nd place goes to Clark grabbing the Kryptonite watch, ripping it off Jigsaw's hand, blasting open a pipe with his heat ray right in front of Lois (I think) and when he unchained her, his bruise and bloody lip were (understandably to us) perfectly healed. An Ace Reporter like Lane should have noticed that though.

Honorable mention goes to why Jigsaw wore a kryptonite watch when in disguise but not at work in the jewelery store.

I'll give you the lie detector. but there are some realities that have to be stretched in order for the episode to work. As for Clark grabbing the watch, we've seen him use quick bursts of energy to grab and get rid of kryptonite before. This is no different. It was just made more badass by the fact that he headbutted the dude first.

As for the watch. Who knows. He's a metrosexual jewelry store attendant. Maybe it didn't go with his outfit or something.

true, I though the same about the lie detector test situation, but I let it slide, but what really got to me was the fact that Clark heat blasted the pump and had no bruises and Lois though nothing of this... redeeming qualities the relationships of the show blossoming, some for the worst and some for the better, 'specially Clark and Lois, mad funny how Clark was dissapointed when she told him she slipped off the fingerpiece and was lieing, lol

Pipes burst. And Clark's heat vision isn't visible to the naked eye. So why would she. A better question is why (without the knowledge of heat vision) would she even suspect clark of a pipe breaking across a room. that would make less sense.

Just gotta add, how come Lois didn't suspect something after she saw the guy on the table across the room? and did she ever ask how he got free?

I may need to watch it again, but i'm fairly certain she saw Clark headbutt the dude and grab him. After that, he could have easily escaped. After the headbutt/grab the room mysteriously became cloudy, so she couldn't see the rest.

 

[RakuMon]

Heck, at least they're finally making Clark consider some kind of cover for his heroic deeds this year! The "Big Dumb Alien" is getting cleverer every episode so !

As for the heat vision, it's not supposed to be visible to other people. It's just visualized for people at home watching the show. In the beginning, Clark's heat vision had that distorted effect (like on a hot, sunny day), but the last few years, they've made it redder. So I can understand why some people think that it's visible to others. (There was an episode way back in the day when Clark burst a pipe with his heat vision with Chloe and Lana around. I can't quite recall which one that was though, but I'm thinking it was in Season 2 or 3.)

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

A plot hole is a gap or inconsistency in a storyline that goes against the flow of logic established by the story's plot.

A plot hole would be if we saw Clark leave Lois in Smallville, and then in the next scene she's with him in Metropolis, of if we see Clark affected by kryptonite in one scene but not in the next, etc.

the things you're listing out here aren't "plot holes," they're functional problems with certain real world items that they've shown in the episode. Although they are all good catches and humorous to say the least, especially the one about him not wearing the watch at work.

 

[Superman1980]

Why didn't Clark still have blood on his forehead? I know his injury would have healed but the blood would still be there. It looked like he had run to the bathroom and washed his face or something t:

 

[Superfreak]

A plot hole is a gap or inconsistency in a storyline that goes against the flow of logic established by the story's plot.

A plot hole would be if we saw Clark leave Lois in Smallville, and then in the next scene she's with him in Metropolis, of if we see Clark affected by kryptonite in one scene but not in the next, etc.

the things you're listing out here aren't "plot holes," they're functional problems with certain real world items that they've shown in the episode. Although they are all good catches and humorous to say the least, especially the one about him not wearing the watch at work.

semantics are irrelevant, the point of the thread is clear, this should have been in existance since the show started

 

[Brainiac 8]

Why create a whole thread devoted to finding silly stuff when we usually pick that stuff apart in the episode thread?

 

[Superfreak]

Why create a whole thread devoted to finding silly stuff when we usually pick that stuff apart in the episode thread?

then it's all in the same place, instead of searching through 8 pages of irrelevant pre-air discussion etc. I think it's a good idea.

 

[Brainiac 8]

It's not irrelevant! Ok...maybe most of the "6 hrs left to go" and "5 hrs and 55 minutes left to go lol" is kinda pointless.

But it gives us purpose and something to do.

 

[04nbod]

Because nothing says "I love this show!" more than pointing out it's shortcomings!

Commitment had a few doozies.

This week's biggest plot hole center's around a common misconception Hollywood sPoonfeeds us about Lie Detectors. Portrayed as a device that can automatically tell if a person is lying, what it actually does is measure stress signs. And when you're tied up to an electric chair in a madman's basement, every answer you give is going to come off as a "lie".

Furthermore, Jigsaw Lite just went right into the test without any control questions, but considering the horror scenario, they would have probably been pretty worthless anyway.

2nd place goes to Clark grabbing the Kryptonite watch, ripping it off Jigsaw's hand, blasting open a pipe with his heat ray right in front of Lois (I think) and when he unchained her, his bruise and bloody lip were (understandably to us) perfectly healed. An Ace Reporter like Lane should have noticed that though.

Honorable mention goes to why Jigsaw wore a kryptonite watch when in disguise but not at work in the jewelery store.

She's lois lane though, infamously oblivious to what goes on in front of her.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

semantics are irrelevant, the point of the thread is clear,

It's not semantics and I dont think it is clear. It's not a "hole in the plot" if the show is consistent in how it uses something even if it differs from how it works in the real world. That's like saying because Clark is an alien that shoots fire out of his eyes it's a "plot hole" because they dont exist in real life. That criticism makes no sense.

As long as you're consistent in how you apply something in the " fantasy world" thats established, then its consistent with the plot. A lie detector that isnt affected by someone's stress isnt a plot hole unless prior to that it was shown/said to have been affected by stress on the show. Otherwise its just inconsistent with the object's actual function in the real world.

this should have been in existance since the show started

not sure why this cant just be discussed in the epsiode threads?> Thats where most of that comes up anyway.

 

[Ratcrawler]

My point for this thread was made in the very first line I wrote.

Also, in this season's premiere episode, Clark was dying if not temporarily dead and unconsious. J'on pops in and flies him to the sun which restores Clark's powers but...takes his away? So how does he get back to Earth if flying dangerously close to the sun takes away his power and Clark is unconsious? Furthermore, why does he still look like a human if he lost his transformative powers and not turned into a green man with big eyebrow ridges? Will we ever see his natural form?

Also, when was it established that nobody could see Clark's heat beams?

 

[Brainiac 8]

The episode he gained Heat vision, they showed that it was more of a heat wave than a red beam, and he ended up burning part of the Talon up without Lana seeing him. Throughout the show since then, he could use his heat vision without others seeing it.

Only in the last couple of seasons have then made it more red, which is more for our benefit. But it still stands that others can't seem to see him using it.

I think MM was lieing through his teeth, to be honest.

 

[storyteller]

I personally think the crew are too cheap to make MM a green man from mars. They have yet to mention that MM is a shape shifting alien. I can understand that a big fiery sun may weaken MM to the point that when he returns to earth, he's stuck in human form and powers diminished.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

My point for this thread was made in the very first line I wrote.

I realized that, my point was just that you misused the term "plot hole" to describe a factual inconsistency

Also, in this season's premiere episode, Clark was dying if not temporarily dead and unconsious. J'on pops in and flies him to the sun which restores Clark's powers but...takes his away?

he flew too close to the Sun on wings of pastrami...

So how does he get back to Earth if flying dangerously close to the sun takes away his power and Clark is unconsious? Furthermore, why does he still look like a human if he lost his transformative powers and not turned into a green man with big eyebrow ridges?

I dont think he lost his powers permanently, I think he was just significantly depowered and needed to recoup. I also took his speech to Clark to mean that he wasnt going to be there to save his butt again so clean up your act.

Will we ever see his natural form?

they showed it in one of those webisode things last season. as for it being on the actual tv show? Not sure. I'd assume if they're gonna make doomsday prosthetics they could do it for MM as well.

Also, when was it established that nobody could see Clark's heat beams?

because it's heat, you cant see heat, you'd only see the distortion of the air around it like if you were looking above the flame on a candle. he's used it for 8 years right in front of everyone without them noticing it.

 

[Ratcrawler]

Right, but I figure people could at least see that distortion. Maybe nobody ever directly looked at it, but Clark's done lot's of crazy stuff just outside of a person's peripheral vision without anybody noticing.

 

[Mikelus]

Why didn't Clark still have blood on his forehead? I know his injury would have healed but the blood would still be there. It looked like he had run to the bathroom and washed his face or something t:

Clark heals pretty quick.

 

[Syncos]

Right, but I figure people could at least see that distortion. Maybe nobody ever directly looked at it, but Clark's done lot's of crazy stuff just outside of a person's peripheral vision without anybody noticing.

I think if someone looked closely enough they could probably see the visual distortion in the air. However. If he's only using it for a few seconds, that's likely not going to be picked up. at best case, you'd notice something weird and not know what it was, as it would just be some weird visual disturbance in the air for a couple seconds.

The visuals are mainly to help the people at home. any time anyone on the show has noticed his heat vision, it's the effect of the heat vision they've noticed. IE: Melting locks on the wine cellar, melting a bullet in the air, etc. They're not sure how he's doing it. (unless they're already aware of his powers) but simply that he is doing it.

Say it with me people.
Superman is not Cyclops!

 

[Superfreak]

I think if someone looked closely enough they could probably see the visual distortion in the air. However. If he's only using it for a few seconds, that's likely not going to be picked up. at best case, you'd notice something weird and not know what it was, as it would just be some weird visual disturbance in the air for a couple seconds.

The visuals are mainly to help the people at home. any time anyone on the show has noticed his heat vision, it's the effect of the heat vision they've noticed. IE: Melting locks on the wine cellar, melting a bullet in the air, etc. They're not sure how he's doing it. (unless they're already aware of his powers) but simply that he is doing it.

Say it with me people.
Superman is not Cyclops!

I always assumed that the distortion was part of the bullet time effect rather than heat vision.... ie. heat vision has almost always been done in slow mo