Plot holes/poor storytelling discussion

It's been mentioned here that maybe the adamantium was bonded on a molecular level. Could someone live with an impervious covering of metal over their bones? I doubt it. The bones couldn't just be sealed off from the rest of the body. If the metal is bonded on a molecular level, maybe it can heal with his body?

Correct, there are small pores within the bones, in this is marrow which produces blood cells and sends them out. This in turn keeps us alive and kicking. If these pores were sealed then we would effectivly shrivel and die.
Only some kind of AI nanomachine that could seek out each pore and stop the adamantium from bonding in the specific place would allow Logan to live. Not only this but Logans healing factor would treat this adamantium as an infection and his healing factor would push it out. This would mean his eyes, mouth, nose, penis and anus would all have to be surgically sewn so the adamantium would have time to bond. However an interesting scene would occur in which the adamantium escapes slightly via his pores.

- See Wolverine: Weapon X by Marc Cerasini for the best description of how the process would take place in the real world.
 
well.. isnt anytime you see wolverine in a Weapon X scenario where he's in the tank and has spikes coming out of him.. arent those spikes the adamantium coming out through his pores?
 
I thought they were just **** loads of needles and what not.
That's what I always took it to be. THere's only been one instance that I know of, where the adamantium came out of his pores.
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slightly off topic....is there a trade collecting the story where wolvie gets him adamantium ripped out?
 
That's what I always took it to be. THere's only been one instance that I know of, where the adamantium came out of his pores.

In issue Wolverine #100 he is captured by Genesis and undergoes another adamantium bonding procedure. His body tries to reject it and you see it poke out his skin (even around his eyes). When Logan forcefully rejects it explodes out of his body in a projectile fashion.
 
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this is what it looked like when the adamantium was spiking through his pores during the bonding process...
 
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I just watched X2 last night, and I really wish they had gotten Cox back for Stryker. They could have just had him dye his hair and suck in his gut and it would been fine, I mean Huston is a good actor and all but he didn't even seem to bother to match Cox's mannerisms (or accent).

Cox was very keen on returning as Stryker but too bad they didn't even ask him to come back. The funny thing is that they used the age reducing camera trick on Patrick Stewart's unnecessary cameo as Xavier when they could have used it for Cox as Stryker.
 
I hope you realize how expensive it would've been to de-age someone for an entire movie.
 
I'd think it was hella expensive to do Stewart for just those two or three minutes. And as Stryker isn't as canonized in fans' minds as Xavier, I can see why they'd re-cast him.
 
Cox was very keen on returning as Stryker but too bad they didn't even ask him to come back. The funny thing is that they used the age reducing camera trick on Patrick Stewart's unnecessary cameo as Xavier when they could have used it for Cox as Stryker.

That wouldn't have been necessary, like I said have him dye his hair and see if he could shave off a few pounds and that would have been fine, and they could have also updated it from 'Nam to the Gulf War when Stryker finds them.
 
Time frame wouldn't fit. Wolverine was with Stryker for a while, then on his own for some years. Then 15 years passed before he met Xavier. Gulf War doesn't allow for that at all.
 
Yeah, I thought the Gulf War was in the late '80s my mistake. But then again the present time frame in the X-Men movies is the kinda vague "not too distant future".
 
I'd think it was hella expensive to do Stewart for just those two or three minutes. And as Stryker isn't as canonized in fans' minds as Xavier, I can see why they'd re-cast him.
i read some were that it was his cgi stunt double like in x3 when hes blown up, there fore they did not de age his the rsed that part of the model
 
This movie was meant to answer questions from the first two movies, like what he did in the military and how he came to have an admantium skeleton. It even added new details to his life like Kayla and his relationship with Sabertooth.

I can't say this movie was unnecessary because there was a story to be told here; it just didn't fill in the missing pieces of his life as well as it should have.


ok ok im going to list a few things that this movie was suppose to cover according to you and tell me if we didnt already know this from the previous films or crap that made no sense or wasnt covered enough to care about.


1) wolverines military past - ok we were shown he lived through most of the big wars but somehow we are never given a reason for how he stops aging at a HUGH JACKMAN age.

2) weapon x program - we are shown this "team" he joins but that lasted for about 10 minutes and then we flash foward and when the team starts getting killed we dont care because we werent given enough time to get to know these characters.

3) wolverines experiment - we saw this already in x1 and x2 and heck cox even told us step by step in the second. nothing new with this scene at all. no big reveals, just us seeing him getting a few needles.

4) sabretooth - the director and the studio should be slap in the face 5 times for this because they created a huge plot hole. if they are brothers then how come in X1 sabretooth doesnt even recognize him? i give wolverine a pass because he lost his memomry but come on that is a huge plot hole.

5) kayla- who? oh the girl that just showed up when he was playing all american man chopping down trees. well we didnt get to know her at all and i didnt care when she died.

bottom line dont call this an origin movie when there is no origin. I.E. tell us about his powers, tell us about his aging process, not just oh look he is getting his metal skeleton.

if I'm wrong in any of this someone please tell me.
 
1. I think it's safe to say that the age suppression kicked in later than the bone claws and healing.

2. We are not supposed to care about the team getting killed off. That was just used as a way to try and get Logan back on board.

3. So a Wolverine origin movie should just skip out the experiment scene? Riiiiiiiight.

4. Sabertooth did recognize him. Well at least was familiar with him. Why do you think he was so obsessive over Logan's dog tags?

5. Again, you are not supposed to care for her. You are supposed to care for Logan. It's pretty messed up. You think the love of your life has been killed by your brother. When in fact it was all a set up to turn you into a lab rat, and the women you loved was in on it the whole time.

And that would make a crap movie. Why do you need to be told about his powers? He is a mutant. His mutant powers are healing and bone claws, the latter of which became apparent after a traumatic event. Simple as that.

Do you need your hand held or to be spoon fed about this stuff?
 
ace of knaves, did you like x-men origins? just wanna know..or was it like SM3 to you? dissappointing, yet entertaining? [i loved sm3 though]
 
I'd give it a 7. It is disappointing because with the cast and crew involved, it should of been soooo much better.

But I still think it is a good fun movie that you can see striving to be more, but is held back by something, or someone... *cough*Rothman*cough*

But it is far from a bad movie IMO. The people saying this is worse than the likes of Elektra, X-3 and the FFs are, well, I don't wanna get in trouble :D
 
IMO easily on the same level or worse than X3. But not worse than FF or Elektra.
 
Well maybe I shouldn't of used X-3 as an example. I wouldn't put that in the same bracket as Elektra and the FFs either.

But X-3 annoys me. At least Wolverine had a clear cut (ish) story. X-3 was a jumbled mess. You don't try and make a 90 minute movie featuring two of the biggest X-Men story lines. And apart from at Jeans house I thought the action was crap. I mean the finale looked like it was on a sound stage.
 

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