Police search for killer after body found at Yale

[Drakon]

What kind of motive could they have had? Either somebody was really pissed at her or really was obsessed with her.

For everything I know about the case, I'm leaning towards the latter.

 

[BlackLantern]

probably some guy that worked there, she might have ignored him or said hi once or twice, he became fixated on her, maybe tried to be her friend....and something pushed him over the edge

 

[Erzengel]

It's hard sifting through the news reports. On the cover of the Daily News or the Post they say how it's a lovelorn lab technician who failed a polygraph and has unexplained scratch marks on him. But another article denies they have anyone in custody yet.

 

[BlackLantern]

check the Connecticut websites like WTNH.com or NBCConnecticut.com

 

[Paradoxium]

You just assume that a place like that is safe, especially a school as prestigious as Yale. For gosh sakes, she was last seen going into the building on a Tuesday morning, a SCHOOL DAY.
....
It had to have been someone who was familiar with the building, and probably someone she knew.

Rumor is, they have a lab tech in custody (denying it of course - they have to prove it), they pulled down the online web profile of a "Lei Zhang" (cache). Guy (or girl?) has defensive wounds and bruises and failed a polygraph. But this is all speculation... could be innocent or have an alibi.

If it's an inside job, its not as bad. It was not the fault of the secure building in this sense (not a random thug who walked in).

 

[Maximum Carnage]

I'm prayin' for her family and friends.. this is ****ed up! :/

 

[Anita18]

If it's an inside job, its not as bad. It was not the fault of the secure building in this sense (not a random thug who walked in).

It's still terrifying to me because I work in a lab too! What if someone on campus is as crazy as the perpetrator? It's no comfort.

 

[Raiden]

Right now police is vehemently denying reports of having a suspect under custody, and they are blaming the media for it. I think they probably have at least one suspect, either in custody or is about to make an arrest. If they have the list of everyone who goes in and out of that building, then it shouldn't be difficult to narrow down the names of the suspect.

 

[Paradoxium]

Don't worry Anita, as long as you are not a short skinny asian girl working at a lab, you have nothing to worry about

And Raiden, I don't blame the police. It would kill the suspect's rep if his name gets announced. No way of knowing for certain if this person is really the one or not.

 

[Anita18]

Don't worry Anita, as long as you are not a short skinny asian girl working at a lab, you have nothing to worry about

Thanks Paradoxium, I always know you're there for me.

Luckily the grad student here is tinier than me, despite not being Asian, and she's not physically in the best shape either. She's clearly the better target between the two of us. Actually she was assaulted randomly on the street twice in NYC, while I've walked downtown LA and Berkeley at night alone with no incident. She joked that she has a target on her head for these kinds of things. "Yeah hmmm, 100-lb girl OR the 100-lb girl with the limp?"

It can't be coincidence that random guys often leer at her. It's very rare that anyone gives me the time of day.

 

[Paradoxium]

Thanks Paradoxium, I always know you're there for me.

Luckily the grad student here is tinier than me, despite not being Asian, and she's not physically in the best shape either. She's clearly the better target between the two of us. Actually she was assaulted randomly on the street twice in NYC, while I've walked downtown LA and Berkeley at night alone with no incident. She joked that she has a target on her head for these kinds of things. "Yeah hmmm, 100-lb girl OR the 100-lb girl with the limp?"

It can't be coincidence that random guys often leer at her. It's very rare that anyone gives me the time of day.

I can imagine it now...


Grad Student Friend: hey look creepy guy 2 oh clock.

Anita: OMG he is coming towards us, with a knife

Grad Student Friend: What should we do, no one can hear us here

*Anita shoves friend at the creepy guy*

Anita: You're the one with the limp, you distract him, I am outta here.


....

 

[Paradoxium]

http://www.newhavenindependent.org/archives/2009/09/was_that_annie.php

She described the man as being white and of “medium build.” He wore glasses and had reddish brown hair.

 

[Raiden]

http://www.newhavenindependent.org/archives/2009/09/was_that_annie.php

AP: 'Person of interest' in Yale killing.

 

[katie_girl09]

I don't support the death penalty, even in that kind of situation or in this kind of situation.

Oh, of course you don't. You damned hippie...

 

[Watson]

If I were a murderer and wanted to hide the body, I think I'd eat it.


I mean I'm already crazy, right? Why not BBQ?

That happens! That's what that freak Pickton did to all those prostitutes he killed. He fed them to his pigs but still

Also there's a Roald Dahl short story that has a semi-similiar idea in in it. Lamb to the Slaughter I think it's called.

And terrifying. You just assume that a place like that is safe, especially a school as prestigious as Yale. For gosh sakes, she was last seen going into the building on a Tuesday morning, a SCHOOL DAY.

I hear New Haven itself is quite sketchy. But clearly it was someone who had access anyways.

 

[Anita18]

I can imagine it now...


Grad Student Friend: hey look creepy guy 2 oh clock.

Anita: OMG he is coming towards us, with a knife

Grad Student Friend: What should we do, no one can hear us here

*Anita shoves friend at the creepy guy*

Anita: You're the one with the limp, you distract him, I am outta here.


....

Turns out the grad student used to work at Yale too, right in that building. Weird.

And she's more devious than you think. She said that if she were an animal lab tech trying to murder someone in the lab, she'd take the keycard, use it to lure investigators cops down some blind alley, stuff the body into a biohazard bin, then wheel the whole thing out the door, in full view of the cameras. Animal lab techs with biohazard bins are a common sight.

I hear New Haven itself is quite sketchy. But clearly it was someone who had access anyways.

Yeah, said grad student (with the target on her head) said she experienced more incidents (assaults, burglaries, robberies, etc etc) in New Haven than anywhere else she's lived. And she's been robbed several times living in CA already. (Yeah, she really must have a target on her head...)

 

[Paradoxium]

Turns out the grad student used to work at Yale too, right in that building. Weird.

And she's more devious than you think. She said that if she were an animal lab tech trying to murder someone in the lab, she'd take the keycard, use it to lure investigators cops down some blind alley, stuff the body into a biohazard bin, then wheel the whole thing out the door, in full view of the cameras. Animal lab techs with biohazard bins are a common sight.


Yeah, said grad student (with the target on her head) said she experienced more incidents (assaults, burglaries, robberies, etc etc) in New Haven than anywhere else she's lived. And she's been robbed several times living in CA already. (Yeah, she really must have a target on her head...)

If your friend under 5 feet or something?

New Haven has the highest crime rate in in Connecticut (for a major city), so it's no surprise.

 

[Majic Walrus]

Oh, of course you don't. You damned hippie...

I just don't think it's a good punishment it shouldn't be a control of the state to execute someone. There's too much power involved. And frankly there are too many false arrests for it to be considered anything less than murder.

 

[Paradoxium]

I am against the death penalty, because of the fiscal costs

 

[Anita18]

If your friend under 5 feet or something?

New Haven has the highest crime rate in in Connecticut (for a major city), so it's no surprise.

I think she's around 5 feet tall. It's just weird since she's led a pretty colorful life, but doesn't party or hang out regularly late at night, so I guess there's just something about her (or the way she moves) that makes her an easy target for people who want to take advantage. I'm really not THAT much bigger than she is, but I'm in much better shape and I think it shows in my walk.

I just don't think it's a good punishment it shouldn't be a control of the state to execute someone. There's too much power involved. And frankly there are too many false arrests for it to be considered anything less than murder.

And nothing less than murder where you're caught absolutely red-handed in the act. My sister is steadfastly against the death penalty, because there have been a number of innocent people killed for crimes they didn't commit. Better to have 100 guilty people live than to have one innocent person die.

 

[Anita18]

BTW, CBS News has IDed the "person of interest" that police are looking at. Still no arrests, though. They probably want to make sure before they make a scene or ruin someone's career.

The search for Annie Le's killer is apparently focused on 24-year-old Yale animal research technician Raymond Clark, according to CBS affiliate WFSB. They say he is the man police are calling a "person of interest" in the case.

Sources have told WFSB that Clark now lives in Middletown with his girlfriend. Police sources confirmed to WFSB that New Haven police were conducting surveillance at a Ferry Street address in the city.

Police said earlier Tuesday that they had questioned 150 people in connection with the death of Le, who vanished Sept. 8 from a Yale research building. Her body was found Sunday, on what would have been her wedding day, stuffed behind a wall in a basement laboratory. They said they did not expect to make an arrest Tuesday.

State prosecutors also blocked the release of autopsy results in Le's death on Tuesday. The chief state medical examiner's office ruled the death a homicide Monday but have yet to say the manner in which Le died.

An expert in criminal forensics says there's a good reason for withholding the results in an active investigation, reports CBS News correspondent Randall Pinkston.

"The killer knows exactly what happened and how it happened," said Lawrence Kobilinsky, a criminal pathologist at John Jay College. "The police now know what happened and they can use that in their investigation to confirm that they have the right person."

Law enforcement sources tell Pinkston that when Clark was first questioned, investigators noticed marks and scratches on his body, most notably on his hands and arms - suggestive of defensive wounds.

Authorities keyed in on him when Clark took a polygraph test and failed badly - raising a number of red flags. Law enforcement sources say he now has a lawyer.

So far, there's no comment on the motive but the CBS News source says "there's no romance involved in this."

At a meeting of medical school students and teachers Monday, Yale president Richard Levin said police have narrowed the number of potential suspects to a very small pool because building security systems recorded who entered the building and what times they entered, the Yale Daily News reported Tuesday. The appropriate people are being monitored, he said.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/15/national/main5311952.shtml?tag=stack

 

[Paradoxium]

Even so, I'd be VERY careful and not ostracize the guy right off the bat (Clark), if anything is to be learned from the Duke Lacrosse case. He might have a legit reason for those marks and people who are not liars can fail a polygraph. I've read waay too many stories about guys who were innocent get screwed like this.

 

[Paradoxium]

Oh man the sharks are out already, christ

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_..._cause_of_death_hope_to_make_arrest_tues.html

In May 2008, she blogged about a rumor that Clark was cheating on her with a girl in his Yale lab.

"My boyfriend, Ray, if you don't know him, has no interest in any of the other girls at YARC as anything more than friends," she wrote, referring to the Yale Animal Resource Center.

"He is a bit naive, doesn't always use the best judgment, definitely is not the best judge of character but he is a good guy," she wrote. "He has a big heart and tries to see the best in people ALL THE TIME! even when everyone else is telling him that the person is a psycho or that the person can't be trusted.

A woman who knew Clark when he lived in New Haven last year said he screamed at children and was "very controlling" of his girlfriend.

Anne Marie Goodwin, 40, said, "He would never let her talk to anyone. I would hear a lot of yelling upstairs. Ray was very controlling of his girlfriend."

Rumor is, she died of asphyxiation.

 

[Majic Walrus]

And nothing less than murder where you're caught absolutely red-handed in the act. My sister is steadfastly against the death penalty, because there have been a number of innocent people killed for crimes they didn't commit. Better to have 100 guilty people live than to have one innocent person die.

But it doesn't work like that. As far as I'm concerned I'd rather 100 murderers live than 1 innocent person be put to death unjustly. Frankly there have been even by conservative estimates dozens of people that were acquitted while on death row meaning that the system is too flawed.

But beyond that we have to look at the financial situation. The fact is that it costs more in appeals and proceedings for one man to be on death row and be executed than to serve a life sentence.

Beyond that let's look at the reasons why the death penalty is argued for:

1.) Preventative. Well it doesn't prevent murder at all because murder still occurs. Murder occurs because the killer profits, is pathological, or is done during a moment of passion. And people who kill other people do not accurately weigh their decisions anyway so people keep killing.

2.) Safety. No one has ever escaped from a maximum security prison in the USA, ever. There's nothing safer for us than letting a person live their natural life in prison.

But beyond the money, the chances of killing innocents and the rationale...

In order for you to be okay with the death penalty you have to answer this question:

Is it right to kill another human being?

And you have to answer it with "Yes."

I don't know if you've ever been faced with the situation of killing someone or having to possibly kill someone but it's not fun at all. It's scary and it's sad. I would have no problem with killing someone to protect me and mine but I would not consider it "right". In order to support the death penalty you have to consider that killing a human being can be right. And that's wrong.

 

[bullets]

If someone killed a person I loved then yes I would want to kill them but it's better to let them reflect on it for a lifetime in prison .