Popular and/or long-standing characters that you just couldn't get into.

[iamlegend]

The urban avenger is who he is. The thing comic companies haven't figured out yet is that when you tamper with the basic formula of who the character is, you run the risk of destroying it. Batman shouldn't be a galaxy-hopping adventurer any more than Spider-Man should live in a luxury apartment, wear a high-tech armored suit & reveal his identity to the public. Or Daredevil get his sight back.
Saying that his popularity brought it about just backs up my statement that it was a publicity stunt; a marketing ploy. But at the cost of good storytelling.

You missed the general point of my post.

It was that, no matter what they've done, the character is still insanely popular. While there's certainly a contingent that doesn't like what he's become, there're masses upon masses that still buy the books.

And personally, I kind of liked where Spider-Man was going before Joey Q destroyed it all just so he could have his little teen-crush or whatever back.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I hated where Spider-Man was going with a passion. None of what he did made any sense & how he couldn't see the fiasco that would result is beyond me. Now like most attempts to put the genie back in the bottle, "One More Day" wasn't much better, but I'll take anything that gets Peter Parker out of the spotlight.
And I didn't miss your point. My point was, how can we say what he's become when that changes from week to week?

 

[Chris Wallace]

I actually have no problem with Bruce going about and having wacky adventures with the JLA, as long as they don't deify him by making him the unstoppable bat-god and simply make his main addition to the team strategic thinking. That works. He sits back, comes up with plans, and sneaks about and busts heads when he can. Working from the shadows just how he likes it.

But they DON'T always keep it that way.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

So blame the writers who got it wrong, not the whole scenario of Batman working alongside the JLA on JLA-level threats.

 

[fifthfiend]

You know what'd be great, would be to see Batman do some actual for-serious detective work. Assembling clues, forming hypotheses, chasing down false leads and coming up against actual dead ends, testing and retesting his assumptions to confirm whether he's actually on the right track, that kind of ****.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Dini's doing a bit of that in Detective Comics. Or he was. I don't know what's happening now that it's tying into RIP because I haven't read this week's issue yet. I will do so and get back to you forthwith.

 

[Chris Wallace]

So blame the writers who got it wrong, not the whole scenario of Batman working alongside the JLA on JLA-level threats.

I do blame the writers. I thought I'd made that clear. But the canon of Batman as a whole suffers for their actions.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Not really. Batman's a big enough character that he can withstand any crappy interpretations of him.

 

[fifthfiend]

It's the maxim Frank Miller exists to prove.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I thought that was that all women are ****es, just to varying degrees.

 

[Anubis]

Well, that is the truth.

 

[nite-owl]

Spider-Man

 

[Johann Krauss]

Spider-Man

um do you have a reason?

 

[El Dorado]

Wolverine. Not that I was never into him, I'm just damn tired of that fool. He's a secret agent, a ninja, a medical experiment, etc, etc, etc. He suffers that ailment of overly popularized characters which is after his stories have reached one plateau the only option that writers have is to make him more grandiose. Nearly every one in the Marvel Universe is afraid of a sub-par character. This has obviously bled into the movies too, which were good but would have been better if Wolverine had a secondary role. Give me the days when he was a bench warming psycho whose only charm was going berserk into a fight and getting his a** handed to him.

 

[Anubis]

um do you have a reason?

Cuz Spider-Man sucks?

 

[Obi-Ron]

He suffers that ailment of overly popularized characters which is after his stories have reached one plateau the only option that writers have is to make him more grandiose.

I know how you feel. Cough prep time cough cough

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

Wolverine. Not that I was never into him, I'm just damn tired of that fool. He's a secret agent, a ninja, a medical experiment, etc, etc, etc. He suffers that ailment of overly popularized characters which is after his stories have reached one plateau the only option that writers have is to make him more grandiose. Nearly every one in the Marvel Universe is afraid of a sub-par character. This has obviously bled into the movies too, which were good but would have been better if Wolverine had a secondary role. Give me the days when he was a bench warming psycho whose only charm was going berserk into a fight and getting his a** handed to him.

Oh man do i agree with that.That dude was nothing but a little psycho with a grudge against cyclops. Then all of a sudden he could take on Lobo and win!( yes i know it was all fan bias),but still that dude should have been a bloody spot on the wall with claws. I think Marvel/DC were so ashamed by that.That the whole fight took place under the Bar.Haha!Thats when that dude jumped the shark for me.Ahhh. to go back to that day when he was getting the crap beat out of him by a loser like Sauron!

 

[Chris Wallace]

He is overused but I still like him.
I'm adding Hellboy to my list. I liked the first movie. The second one didn't wow me, & I've never felt an urge to pick up his comic.

 

[Mrh7448]

I can't stand Cyclops. I don't know why he just annoys me a great deal.

Wolverine while I did like his character he became too overused. It's also all the retcons done to his character it's too much.

Also don't like Superman. Not sure why I think it's his goody two shoes type of character.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Again, Wolverine has become a victim of his own popularity. The X-Men get broken up into individual teams & yet somehow he's in EVERY X-book. They make him an Avenger. He guest stars in damn near everything. Plus he's got his own solo book. Is he Wolverine or Multiple Man?
I don't think he's quite as awesome as I once did but he's still an enjoyable character for me.

 

[Anubis]

I can't stand Cyclops. I don't know why he just annoys me a great deal.

Wolverine while I did like his character he became too overused. It's also all the retcons done to his character it's too much.

Also don't like Superman. Not sure why I think it's his goody two shoes type of character.

"You've obviously never seen him in a fight." -Lex Luthor All-Star Superman

 

[Mrh7448]

"You've obviously never seen him in a fight." -Lex Luthor All-Star Superman

Yeah I admit I haven't read a lot of Superman. He just never appealed to me as a character. Mostly it's probably because of all the super powers he does have, it makes him less appealing to me as someone to relate to.

 

[Mrh7448]

Again, Wolverine has become a victim of his own popularity. The X-Men get broken up into individual teams & yet somehow he's in EVERY X-book. They make him an Avenger. He guest stars in damn near everything. Plus he's got his own solo book. Is he Wolverine or Multiple Man?
I don't think he's quite as awesome as I once did but he's still an enjoyable character for me.

That's a big part of it. Seeing someone everywhere. Mind you Marvel was never really big on continuity between issues. I think the other problem is his powers just seem to get more and more powerful. His healing factor kicks in and heals automatically from anything, to me the more powerful someone is the less appealing they become.

I haven't read X-men and Wolverine in quite awhile so I don't know if he has his insta-heal or not anymore. A lots changed since I've read comics on a regular basis.

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

. I think the other problem is his powers just seem to get more and more powerful. His healing factor kicks in and heals automatically from anything, to me the more powerful someone is the less appealing they become.

yeah. I think if that dude got his head chopped off he would come back to life now.The Black Widow shot my boy full of holes in Secret invasion and he was like "Hey Natasha it's me!" This dude has gotten to be way to powerful. I guess thats why that new animated series i read about is titled "Wolverine and his amazing X-men!"
The worst had to be when in Civil war he went to confront Namor in one of Iron Man's Armour and pop his claws outta the suit underwater! Huh? He was going to duke it out with Namor underwater!!Please give me a break.

( hehe. I threw that "his amazing in there just to be cute)

 

[El Dorado]

Again, Wolverine has become a victim of his own popularity. The X-Men get broken up into individual teams & yet somehow he's in EVERY X-book. They make him an Avenger. He guest stars in damn near everything. Plus he's got his own solo book. Is he Wolverine or Multiple Man?
I don't think he's quite as awesome as I once did but he's still an enjoyable character for me.

And again, I said I used to be into the character, but I got tired of this fool. For exactly all the reasons you wrote, and then some. What was wrong with this guy being a drunken, cantankerous, maladjusted midget with minimal powers. And when did this guy grow? Wasn't he once 5' 0" or less? I miss all the short pint jokes!