Popular and/or long-standing characters that you just couldn't get into.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah: freaky as s***. But you've gotta remember, she incinerated her family when her powers activated and she managed to deal with that. She's a screwed up person, which makes her pretty strong when it comes to dealing with weird stuff.

 

[Dark Victory]

The Thing, The Invisible Woman, The Human Torch, Mr. Fantastic, Iron Man, Cable, Thor.

 

[SLVRSR4]

Dr. Manhattan

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Superman (But I love Supergirl go figure.)
Green Lantern
Aquaman
Martian Manhunter
Almost all of DC that's not Supergirl, Powergirl, Wonder Woman, Batman and his rogues gallery and sidekicks, or The Flash.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Similarly, I'm really not into any DC character that's not affiliated with Gotham.

 

[KangConquers]

Any hero that's dark for being dark's sake just bores the **** out of me.

I find Punisher, Venom, and several other characters to be very one note. There has to be a bright side to things too.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I agree on Punisher & Venom. I tried to get into Punisher but can only really take him in small doses. As for Venom, I liked him at first but got sick of him over the years. I actually liked him more in "Spider-Man 3" than in the comics.

 

[KangConquers]

I agree on Punisher & Venom. I tried to get into Punisher but can only really take him in small doses. As for Venom, I liked him at first but got sick of him over the years. I actually liked him more in "Spider-Man 3" than in the comics.

I'm basically tired of wallowing ,reticent, mopey anti-heroes, and on the flip side, crazy comic relief heroes. Basically a character being "Cool" or "bad ass" isn't enough of a reason for me to like them.

Captain America is my favorite character because Steve Rogers had EVERY reason to be a dark reticent character like Punisher, or Wolverine, but instead he has the inner courage to face hardship and presevere; that makes him admirable.

I constantly hear Cap being put down for being a jigonistic boring hero, but truth be told he has just as much, if not more depth than cool anti-heroes like Deadpool, The Punisher, and Wolverine. He stands for actual things going on in our society and is a good role model. Captain America is everything that America should actually be, and that is more powerful and resonant to me in my adult years than some anti-hero crusade.

 

[Odin's Fury]

cap is lame.

you know what i said when he died?


good.

 

[KangConquers]

cap is lame.

you know what i said when he died?


good.

Wow, what a well thought out argument.

Take note gentlemen, this is the stereotypical argument against Cap; it has no merit, it's completely devoid of substance, and it's entirely based on idiotic fanboy rhetoric.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I'm basically tired of wallowing ,reticent, mopey anti-heroes, and on the flip side, crazy comic relief heroes. Basically a character being "Cool" or "bad ass" isn't enough of a reason for me to like them.

Captain America is my favorite character because Steve Rogers had EVERY reason to be a dark reticent character like Punisher, or Wolverine, but instead he has the inner courage to face hardship and presevere; that makes him admirable.

I constantly hear Cap being put down for being a jigonistic boring hero, but truth be told he has just as much, if not more depth than cool anti-heroes like Deadpool, The Punisher, and Wolverine. He stands for actual things going on in our society and is a good role model. Captain America is everything that America should actually be, and that is more powerful and resonant to me in my adult years than some anti-hero crusade.

Civil War exemplified those traits in him, IMO.

 

[KangConquers]

Civil War exemplified those traits in him, IMO.

Exactly. And Brubaker proved that Steve doesn't have to be portrayed as the milk and cookies guy that Stan Lee did. You can have honor and values without being a sap.

Stan Lee wrote a horrible Captain America, and I think that's the version people have stamped in their minds. It wasn't until writers like Englehart, Stern, Gruenwald and Waid took the reigns that Cap started to get a fair shake.

 

[Max J Power]

I like Justice League and DC Universe stuff I've read, but I probably wouldn't be inclined read a solo book involving any DC universe character besides Batman, Superman, and the Green Lantern. Most of them just don't grab me outside of the team setting.

I'm not that into Iron Man, either, but I could see that changing.

 

[Dark Victory]

Although I liked the cartoon, I could never really get into Justice League or even Avengers. I prefer superheroes going solo.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Hmm-I neither agree nor disagree with that. Certain hereos are better solo; Spider-Man, Superman & Batman. I have a long list of reasons I won't go into why I don't feel Batman belongs in the JLA, & an equally long list as to why Spidey should never be an Avenger. On the other hand, some heroes function better with teams. Cap is a natural born leader & that's something that should never be taken away from him.

 

[Spade]

Gambit comes to mind. He's not very interesting, to me. Doc Ock is usually well-written, but I don't see the hype behind him. Hal Jordan is another; I know him more for lasting a long time as the Green Lantern rather than doing anything notable. The biggest ones for me would be Witchblade and Spawn. Both characters are underdeveloped and revolve around a single concept popular in the 90's (scantily-clad women and grim 'n gritty superheroes respectively).

 

[KangConquers]

Okay I'll say it:

Batman.

It's not that I don't like him; he's probably in my top 10 favorite heroes, but his fan base is so damn forceful. I feel about Batman how some people who hate the Beatles feel about them; Batman is soooo shoved down your throat. Some people consider it a foregone conclusion that he's the greatest hero of all time, and that anyone who doesn't think so is some mentally challenged fool.

Batman to me is really cool. Cool as hell. But that's not what makes a character to me. On the Marvel side I feel the same way about Daredevil; I guess this just stems from my personal meh feelings about Frank Miller.

I still like Batman, but I like others such as Captain America and Spider-Man a lot better.

 

[Obi-Ron]

^ I'll agree with that statement before the bat-hoards show up.

 

[KangConquers]

^ I'll agree with that statement before the bat-hoards show up.

Really, I like a lot of Batman stories, but the Frank Miller worship angle just gets old.

I mean, Batman is my favorite DC guy, it's just I'm more of a marvel guy. TDK was ****ing amazing.

 

[Odin's Fury]

Wow, what a well thought out argument.

Take note gentlemen, this is the stereotypical argument against Cap; it has no merit, it's completely devoid of substance, and it's entirely based on idiotic fanboy rhetoric.

haha...yeah I wrote that just as I was leaving work, so I didn't feel like really making an argument.

But honestly, I could never get into CAP stories. and since thats what this thread is ABOUT I figured I would share that.

I actually have the same issues with Cap that I hear many people claim to have about Supes. You know, he's perfect, there's no moral ambiguity, he's not very interesting...etc.

He always seemed like this unreasonable boy scout, and didn't really seem to have much substance to him. That said, this was based mainly on the early Avengers reprints my dad gave me when I was growing up, or huge crossovers. Cap doesn't seem to be written well in those cases (the same could be said of Supes often).

I've heard Brubaker's run is good, and it's on my list to read eventually. But since I could never get into cap, I didn't read it.

And if that's not a good enough argument for you....I don't give a s***. It's an opinion. deal with it.

 

[KangConquers]

haha...yeah I wrote that just as I was leaving work, so I didn't feel like really making an argument.

But honestly, I could never get into CAP stories. and since thats what this thread is ABOUT I figured I would share that.

I actually have the same issues with Cap that I hear many people claim to have about Supes. You know, he's perfect, there's no moral ambiguity, he's not very interesting...etc.

He always seemed like this unreasonable boy scout, and didn't really seem to have much substance to him. That said, this was based mainly on the early Avengers reprints my dad gave me when I was growing up, or huge crossovers. Cap doesn't seem to be written well in those cases (the same could be said of Supes often).

I've heard Brubaker's run is good, and it's on my list to read eventually. But since I could never get into cap, I didn't read it.

And if that's not a good enough argument for you....I don't give a s***. It's an opinion. deal with it.

Fair enough; I still think your opinion is uninformed, but I can relate. I have DC fan friends who think that Flash has the greatest stories, and quite frankly nothing about seeing Flash fight the Weather Wizard is drawing me into the book...

For the record, Stan Lee wrote THE worst Captain America. Englehart, Stern, Gruenwald, Waid, and Brubaker all had great runs. Others had decent to middling runs. Stan Lee's was terrible.

 

[Dark Victory]

Okay I'll say it:

Batman.

It's not that I don't like him; he's probably in my top 10 favorite heroes, but his fan base is so damn forceful. I feel about Batman how some people who hate the Beatles feel about them; Batman is soooo shoved down your throat. Some people consider it a foregone conclusion that he's the greatest hero of all time, and that anyone who doesn't think so is some mentally challenged fool.

Batman to me is really cool. Cool as hell. But that's not what makes a character to me. On the Marvel side I feel the same way about Daredevil; I guess this just stems from my personal meh feelings about Frank Miller.

I still like Batman, but I like others such as Captain America and Spider-Man a lot better.

Hey man it's your opinion. Even though Batman is my favorite superhero I can see what you're saying. It's kind of the same for me with just about every marvel character.

 

[KangConquers]

Hey man it's your opinion. Even though Batman is my favorite superhero I can see what you're saying. It's kind of the same for me with just about every marvel character.

I love Batman, I think it's more a vast majority of his fanbase that I can't stand; they're pretty forceful.

 

[Odin's Fury]

Really, I like a lot of Batman stories, but the Frank Miller worship angle just gets old.

I mean, Batman is my favorite DC guy, it's just I'm more of a marvel guy. TDK was ****ing amazing.

I don't get the Frank Miller thing myself. Batman is one of my top 5 favorite characters of all time, but not because of Miller. I don't really consider TDKR to BE a batman story. It's a Frank Miller batman story. I enjoy it....but not because of the character of batman necessarily.

Really, Miller didn't do much. He gave Bruce a mustache....so we know that he's disenchanted.

For an example of what I mean, I would look at the older Bruce in Batman Beyond, which I think is a much more developed, and thought out characterization.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I agree on Batman Beyond. I hated DKR & for the life of me could not see what all the fuss was about.