Porn stars and Class

[Hunter Rider]

So, I'll ask thisL Could you respect a porn star? Would you let one into your home with your family? Would you treat them like a human being?

Yes, being a good, nice, kind, fun person has nothing to with being a ****e, you can be both and that is fine.

 

[The Dark Defender]

So, I'll ask thisL Could you respect a porn star? Would you let one into your home with your family? Would you treat them like a human being?

Yes.

 

[knowsbleed]

Actually it's simualted more now than it used to be...and the point wasn't that the films have deep characterization. It's that the women are not the sex crazed wild women that they appear to be in their films...no more than the guys that played raping, animalistic maniacs in Irreversible and THHE really act like that as a way of juding their class as human beings.

I see what you are saying. The people in porn may not be as stimulated as they appear to be on camera...but they are still physically having sex for money...that is not acting. That is not classy IMO...it is a version of the oldest human profession...in entertainment form.

 

[The Dark Defender]

Everyone is a sinner, whether they share the same sins or not.

 

[bullets]

So, I'll ask thisL Could you respect a porn star? Would you let one into your home with your family? Would you treat them like a human being?

if they were hot.. yeah

 

[The Dark Defender]

I see what you are saying. The people in porn may not be as stimulated as they appear to be on camera...but they are still physically having sex for money...that is not acting. That is not classy IMO...it is a version of the oldest human profession...in entertainment form.

It's acting because the way they depict on screen doesn't necessarily match what they're really feeling, some of them also try harder to make it more enjoyable for the viewer to watch, as with actors...

just like when some actor in a movie punches and savagely rapes a woman in the film, even though he's not actually doing it, he's not the type of person that actually thinks "this **** deserves this!*_*" anymore than the pornstar is actually the type of person that feels about her actions on film the way she depicts them.

 

[Abaddon]

Yes, being a good, nice, kind, fun person has nothing to with being a ****e, you can be both and that is fine.

hahaha, I love it.t:

 

[knowsbleed]

Everyone is a sinner, whether they share the same sins or not.

A computer programmer that steals pens from work is a little different from a porn star who sodomizes 3 or 4 times and calls it a day.

 

[Hunter Rider]

It's acting because the way they depict on screen doesn't necessarily match what they're really feeling, some of them also try harder to make it more enjoyable for the viewer to watch, as with actors...

just like when some actor in a movie punches and savagely rapes a woman in the film, even though he's not actually doing it, he's not the type of person that actually thinks "this **** deserves this!*_*" anymore than the pornstar is actually the type of person that feels about her actions on film the way she depicts them.

It's totally different, when someone shoots someone with a Glock in a movie it's a stunt, when three dudes jack a load ina girls mouth that's real.

plus most now don't even act, they just show up as themselves and screw for money.

 

[bullets]

It's acting because the way they depict on screen doesn't necessarily match what they're really feeling, some of them also try harder to make it more enjoyable for the viewer to watch, as with actors...

just like when some actor in a movie punches and savagely rapes a woman in the film, even though he's not actually doing it, he's not the type of person that actually thinks "this **** deserves this!*_*" anymore than the pornstar is actually the type of person that feels about her actions on film the way she depicts them.

yeah but the pornstar is having real sex

 

[jaguarr]

Then maybe before we continue to debate this, we should clarify what actually constitutes being a classy individual. Because I'm not seeing it.

Well, it's going to vary greatly depending on the individual holding the definition. To me, a classy individual is someone who's self-confident but not arrogant, treats other people with tact, respect and consideration, doesn't take their problems out on others or do harm to them, has a reasonably decent intellect, and generally lives their life the way they want to without encroaching on others. It has nothing to do with moral issues like sexuality, religion, or any other lifestyle choice that doesn't really affect any other people but themselves. I respect that people are going to do things with their lives that I could never fathom or wouldn't be a good fit for me, personally, but if it works for them and doesn't cause a crisis of their own personal moral code then more power to them. It's when we go against our own ideals in life that it becomes an issue, and not everyone shares the same morals (nor should they).

jag

 

[Hunter Rider]

hahaha, I love it.t:

The issue here has been from that start that Stormy thinks the word simply shouldn't exist, my point was that it has a definition and a porn star is it, not that they are evil ppl to be sacrificed by Memphis Slim

 

[bullets]

A computer programmer that steals pens from work is a little different from a porn star who sodomizes 3 or 4 times and calls it a day.

lmao.....

 

[The Dark Defender]

It's totally different, when someone shoots someone with a Glock in a movie it's a stunt, when three dudes jack a load ina girls mouth that's real.

plus most now don't even act, they just show up as themselves and screw for money.

Again, they are depicting emotions that they aren't actually feeling, and some are trying harder than others...it's acting, just a different type (and I'm not saying they require an equal amount of talent).

Of course it's a stunt compared to women actually have sex, but that's not my point. The point is that the work isn't really reflecting what type of person either the actor or the pornstar actually is, hence isn't a good reflection of their class or lack there of.

 

[Cmill216]

It's acting because the way they depict on screen doesn't necessarily match what they're really feeling...

just like when some actor in a movie punches and savagely rapes a woman in the film, even though he's not actually doing it, he's not the type of person that actually thinks "this **** deserves this!*_*" anymore than the pornstar is actually the type of person that feels about her actions on film the way she depicts them.

You've gotta stop comparing actual film actors to porn stars. The extremes couldn't be further apart.

Porn stars are paid to have sex in front of camera and swim in debauchery. For someone to live the life of a porn star, the enjoyment of their acts has to be a genuine feeling that person has to some degree.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Then maybe before we continue to debate this, we should clarify what actually constitutes being a classy individual. Because I'm not seeing it.

i would say it has different categories, classy in a sexual sense is it's own thing, like if it isn't then is there no definition between a lady and a skank ?

 

[The Dark Defender]

A computer programmer that steals pens from work is a little different from a porn star who sodomizes 3 or 4 times and calls it a day.

Stealing could be worse, atleast the pornstars sin is a consentual one between everyone involved.

Of course not all sins are equal, I wasn't saying that they were.

 

[Abaddon]

Porn star, "I just did a shot where I was DPed, a little anal, some A to mouth for effect and ended with a double money shot...see, some of its still in my hair. I'm so classy"

well, I for one am not just considering the mainstream, big studio, porn stars, but also the lesser known independent website, webcam ****es.


But that's all just based on what you consider acceptable sexual practices. I'd make a negative judgment about a girl who did those kinds of things regardless if she got paid for it. Being a porn star has nothing to do with it.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Again, they are depicting emotions that they aren't actually feeling, and some are trying harder than others...it's acting, just a different type (and I'm not saying they require an equal amount of talent).

Of course it's a stunt compared to women actually have sex, but that's not my point. The point is that the work isn't really reflecting what type of person either the actor or the pornstar actually is, hence isn't a good reflection of their class or lack there of.

It's not about emotions in the instance given, the gun shot hit is fake, the 3 loads in her mouth are real, thus the line between fact and fiction, porn and real movies.

If someone is swallowing sperm from men she doesn't even know or like on film for money it reflects her class because she will ****e herself out for a price

 

[knowsbleed]

It's acting because the way they depict on screen doesn't necessarily match what they're really feeling, some of them also try harder to make it more enjoyable for the viewer to watch, as with actors...

just like when some actor in a movie punches and savagely rapes a woman in the film, even though he's not actually doing it, he's not the type of person that actually thinks "this **** deserves this!*_*" anymore than the pornstar is actually the type of person that feels about her actions on film the way she depicts them.

You have to see the difference though. The rapist in most movies does not have intercourse with the rape victim. It truly is acting. Porn stars are having sex and are acting out their height of stimulation/pleasure. It is not the sex that is being acted out but the response. I don't really think you can compare the two.

If my wife fakes an orgasm (for arguments purposes only)...that makes her an actress?

 

[The Dark Defender]

You've gotta stop comparing actual film actors to porn stars. The extremes couldn't be further apart.

Porn stars are paid to have sex in front of camera and swim in debauchery. For someone to live the life of a porn star, the enjoyment of their acts has to be a genuine feeling that person has to some degree.

I know the differences, and I wasn't saying that the acting requires the same amount of skill.

Actors in films can also be in scenes where they're acting out genuine feelings that they're having to some degree, but there's still a simulation involved to one extent or another.

For someone to live as an actor, there's usually some degree of genuine feeling to their enjoyment of the profession as well.

Yes, there are differences, and also simialarities.

 

[knowsbleed]

If someone is swallowing sperm from men she doesn't even know or like on film for money it reflects her class because she will ****e herslef out for a price

exactly.

 

[The Dark Defender]

You have to see the difference though. The rapist in most movies does not have intercourse with the rape victim. It truly is acting. Porn stars are having sex and are acting out their height of stimulation/pleasure. It is not the sex that is being acted out but the response. I don't really think you can compare the two.

If my wife fakes an orgasm (for arguments purposes only)...that makes her an actress?

Yes, I see the differences, and have acknowledged them. I was never saying that they were preciesly the same.

"Originally Posted by hunter rider
If someone is swallowing sperm from men she doesn't even know or like on film for money it reflects her class because she will ****e herslef out for a price"

So will many other people in many other lines of work.

 

[bullets]

extreme differences

 

[Cmill216]

For someone to live as an actor, there's usually some degree of genuine feeling to their enjoyment of the profession as well.

Enjoyment of the profession of acting vs. the enjoyment of *******

Ma..jor...difference.