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  1. FeedOnATreeFrog (A Metal Gear reference)

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    Finally caught this on this on the plane (still not out yet in China) and I quite enjoyed it, despite it being a mess.

    Trank's overall take on the FF really clicked for me, and it's such a shame it didn't come together. Would love to see a comic in a similar vein.
     
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  2. I SEE SPIDEY Registered

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    I finally watched the film and I just came away feeling sad for all involved. It just didn't work overall. I'll elaborate further but a couple of bullet points.

    The movie is mostly set in a bunker. That's just pathetically cheap on Fox's part and makes the movie not feel like a big deal. Maybe this would have worked if the character stuff was on point but the character stuff wasn't good so it didn't work. The film looks like it cost 75 million, not 122mil.

    The performances were strangely lifeless. Everybody seemed like they were on a sedative, why?

    The characters had no reason to be teenagers. This isn't a high school movie and the characters didn't really act like or at all look like teenagers so why were they teenagers. There was no reason not to make them 25-30 year olds because them being teens played no real part in the plot.

    The pacing was atrocious. It takes 45-50 minutes for the plot to get going and when it does it races to the terrible end.

    Victor was a horrible villain with no motivation. They flat out did not explain his motivation. Being a *****ebag does not mean you will turn into a Supervillain bad writers of 2015's Fantastic Four movie. His motivation was so beyond vague that it's not even funny.

    The costuming was abysmal. Do I need to get into all that much? Just use your eyes, the costuming is bad. The Fantastic Four look awful and Doom looked beyond awful. The costuming just failed astronomically.

    I must say that I actually somewhat liked the tone. Sure I would have lighten it up and bit and allowed the actors to act like ****ing humans but the tone isn't far off from something that I like.
     
  3. Rowsdower! Registered

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    Finally saw film. My review:

    Meh.

    4/10
     
  4. I SEE SPIDEY Registered

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    Yeah I give it a 4/10 as well.
     
  5. Havok83 Registered

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    Just saw it myself and I quite enjoyed it. I think the hate for it is blown way out of proportion. Id give it a 6.5/7. I think if it didnt have the name FF attached to it, it would have faired better bc it didnt feel like FF. It was however a pretty decent science fiction film. The first half is pretty solid as its very grounded. Once they get their powers, thats when things kind of start to fall apart as they tried to sprinkle elements of it the superhero genre into it. That however didnt work bc the tone from the first half kind of built up that its not a superhero movie so there was a bit of a conflicting set of ideas here. Overall though, I was entertained and didnt find it unwatchable
     
  6. Erzengel |-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

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    I just watched it and I agree with that it starts off better than I would have suspected but then it just goes downhill. Poor characterizations all around. The strongest part was Reed and Ben's friendship that just doesn't come to a good conclusion. Doom's motivation?

    The last part of the movie just brings down even the semi decent first part of the movie.

    I'd give this a 3 out of 10 and it's the worst CBM since Green Lantern.

    I'm glad I didn't waste my money in the theater for this.
     
  7. DigificWriter Registered

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    I figured that since I continue to use an avatar from this movie, it was time to do what I ought to have done upon its initial release and see the film (I had promised myself that I'd see it in theaters - reviews be ****** - but was so deflated by the negativity that I ended up breaking that promise)(thank you, HBO, for adding it to your lineup), and I wish I'd gotten around to seeing it sooner, because, in spite of everything, I really enjoyed it.

    Tonally and structurally, the film reminded me very much of X-Men First Class, The Amazing Spider-Man, and Casino Royale, and benefited greatly, IMO, from taking the same kind of grounded, slow-build approach that those films did, building up the characters and the narrative independent of any big action set pieces so that when it does eventually reach a point in its narrative where action set pieces come into play, they feel 'earned' and the point where things look the bleakest for the characters carries more 'weight'.

    I also loved the 'look' of the film, particularly the way the characters' powers were rendered and the design of their 'containment suit' uniforms (Reed having designed his own suit made the entire concept even cooler, although I wish somebody had commented on that fact). I kept my Sue avatar primarily because I love the design of her costume, and it and the other characters' costumes look as good on film as they did on the poster(s) from which my avatar is derived.

    The cast was also terrific, with great chemistry, and totally embodied the "Ultimate" versions of the characters, upon which most of their characterization was based. Of particular note, at least for me, were the relationships between Reed and Ben, Reed and Sue, and Johnny and Franklin.

    I also liked Victor's reintroduction as 'Doom', especially once they brought him back to 'Area 57' and he started using his powers; the sequence was very reminiscent of the introduction of Doctor Octopus in Spider-Man 2 and the pages of Ultimate Spider-Man Vol. 2. His character design was also great, reminding me of a cross between Darth Vader, the Bio-Men from Defiance, the robots from I, Robot, and the 1970s Sentinels from X-Men Days of Future Past.

    All in all, I found the film to be infinitely better than its negative reception indicated, and feel very saddened by the fact that we likely won't be seeing any follow-ups to it, because there deserves to be.

    I'm giving it a 9 out of 10, and will be adding it to my blu-ray Superhero Movie collection (which currently only consists of the X-Men films) at some point.
     
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  8. Kelly #RESIST

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    We must have seriously watched different movies...... :/
     
  9. Erzengel |-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

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    I guess life would be boring if everyone agreed on everything. :shrug:
     
  10. Willie Lumpkin Trophy Husband

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    If I didn't know better I would assume this was a joke.:cwink:

    . . . but I'm glad you enjoyed it.
     
  11. Willie Lumpkin Trophy Husband

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    As long as this thread is revised, here's a review I posted on another thread, but not on this 'official' one:

    After everything all of you and all the reviewers said, I don’t think anyone communicated just how devoid this film was of anything worth watching.
    It’s like Fox sent a bunch of popular films to China and told them to make a cheap knock-off of those films. They refer to the Thing as “the big guy”. Now where have I heard that before?

    The acting is decent, but that’s probably the only good thing I can say. Those actors have absolutely NOTHING to work with. The whole thing is dull, lifeless, pointless without any drama, intrigue, humor, plot, interesting characters or any of the elements that would make anyone enjoy a film.

    Where’s the ‘grounded and gritty’? The whole film is complete nonsense, and nobody acts like anybody would in the real World.

    Science Fair Judge – “So you’ve created a device that seems to transport objects to another dimension, oh, and by the way, it creates a shock-wave powerful enough to break a back-board 50 feet away. Why are you wasting my time with this when that kid over there has charted different insects he’s seen in his yard over the past year? I have no interest in this. Just pay for the backboard.”

    Reed – “Here’s an obscure little book called 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea by a completely unknown author named Jules Verne. I’m sure you’ve never heard of it . . . or the freakin’ DISNEY MOVIE they made from it.”

    Reed – “Oh my God, Ben. You’ve suffered a horrible accident, you’re my best friend and you’re begging for my help. What should I do? I know! I’ll go away and spend the next year doing nothing in particular with no defined goal. Doesn’t that make a lot more sense than me trying to help you?"

    None of the characters are vaguely likable in any way. For the most part, they have no personalities, but the slight personalities they demonstrate are ugly. They’re selfish, mopey losers who don’t care about anything. Sue is a cold, unlikable b**** who can’t even be bothered to spend five minutes talking to the new guy . . . WHO SHE JUST RECRUITED . . . and maybe show him around, make him feel comfortable in this strange place her father runs. Ben doesn’t crack a smile or show one hint of happiness through the whole movie.

    Johnny is an a**hole, but he’s not even a cool, fun a**hole. He never has fun with anything or gets excited about anything. He doesn’t have any smart-ass answer for his father after he wrecks his car. He just makes up a weak, transparent lie: “I hydroplaned on a dry night” What the hell?!?!

    Here’s half a clue Fox (which will increase your grand total of clues to 0.5) – Superheroes should be likable in some way. Audiences want to find some reason to like them and root for them and want them to succeed. I don’t want any of these characters to succeed. I just want them to go away.

    And the ending. Could there be a worse ending in the history of film?! What is Doom doing, why is he doing it, how can the others stop him? The filmmakers don’t even try to answer any of those questions. Doom seems to be trying to destroy the world. Why? He hasn’t said or done anything anywhere in the entire film to even hint that he would have any reason to destroy the world. How can they stop him? The audience has no idea. Reed just says something like ‘I hope this works’. You hope what works? What are you trying to do? Then BOOM, it’s over. We don’t know how or why. We don't know what happened to Doom or if he could just do the same thing tomorrow. Let's just celebrate because that seems to be the thing we're supposed to do at this moment.

    Then the general says something like ‘The world may never know what you did’. What did they do? They nearly destroyed the world with their drunken toying with things they didn’t understand. Lock them up. Kill them. These people need to be eliminated. They’re a threat to the world. The world wasn’t destroyed this time, but who can say it won’t be destroyed next time they do something idiotic and irresponsible? They’re supervillains. They need to be killed or at least put somewhere that they can never threaten the world again.

    “Here’s a huge complex for you to do whatever you want and we work for you now.” WAIT!!! WHAT!!!! These idiots nearly destroyed the world and now you’re giving them the means to do it again?!?!

    Absolutely inexplicably terrible in nearly every possible way.
     
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  12. DigificWriter Registered

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    "To each their own, Number One".

    I liked what we were given, and it sounds like you didn't, which is fine.

    I enjoyed the film and reviewed it accordingly.
     
  13. Quasar Registered

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    I can't believe we actually persuaded a FFINO defender to not see the movie in theaters. That's as unbelievable as the movie itself.
     
  14. Kelly #RESIST

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    You seemed to have thought it more than enjoyable....which a friend of mine enjoyed it but would not have gone anywhere near the review u gave.... I was shocked at the degree of your enjoyment not necessarily that u just enjoyed it.
     
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    I've seen this movie now and I am baffled by pretty much every major decision made to reboot the FF in this manner.

    I am baffled by why the movie felt the need to start with Reed Richards as a kid. It adds zero to the story, aside from allowing the director to indulge himself in nostalgia for the 1980's Steven Spielberg movie aesthetic.

    I am baffled by why they thought "Its clobbering time" originating from Ben Grimm's abusive older brother was a good idea.

    I am baffled why they thought making Dr. Doom into a young hipster anti-government hacker who plays Call of Duty in his basement was a good idea. This guy is supposed to be the Darth Vader of the Marvel Universe and these interpretations of him only diminish his power as a villain and add nothing.

    I am baffled by the fact this movie cuts to a year later when the four get their powers. So we get an origin story that waste time showing us Reed Richards as a kid but doesn't show us the four learning how to use their powers and deal and adjust to becoming superhuman? Then what the **** was the point of making this an origin story then?

    Why does the movie have Reed Richards escape the base right away? What is the point of this aside from making Reed Richards look like an idiot who abandons his best friend after he becomes a rock monster with no penis? If he wants to cure Ben why would he think he'd have a better shot at doing it while on the run (with no good equipment to work with) as a fugitive? No! Staying with the government you can use their **** to cure Ben. Running away makes no sense.

    I am baffled by leaving Sue Storm behind at the base while the rest of the four and Doom go do the inter-dimensional travel thing and go to Planet Zero for the first time. This is an important moment and Sue Storm (the ONE woman on the team) gets relegated to watching the computer screen. Wow.

    I am baffled as to why the studio wants to keep the rights to the Fantastic Four when they don't care enough about it to invest real money into making a GOOD movie and hire people who respect the source material to make it. What do you have to gain by making a movie this bad?

    Watching this movie was like watching a kid get abused by a parent that doesn't know how to raise the kid and what the kid needs and doesn't give a **** about the kid but won't let anyone else take care of the kid. Its a sad heartbreaking experience.
     
  16. Willie Lumpkin Trophy Husband

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    These are all great points. It's hard to imagine how someone can make a film this bad without intentionally trying. I can't think of one single thing this film does right.
     
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    Opinions are a beautiful thing.

    But my biggest takeaway from this post of your's wasn't that you liked the movie, but that you were fearless enough to share it.

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  18. Spider-Aziz Dummy Dragon Holo

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    Without the :ff: boards around, this thread title made me think of a review for any Marvel movie, not the Fant4stic one only.

    The trailers made this look like an episode of CW's the Flash, mostly season 1, and the settings also reminded me of that show, so I thought this might be fun, another thing to compare the two together is Wally's early appearance in that show and Johnny's early appearance in this movie are a bit a like.

    This feels like an extended episode of a CW show, but with the fun level dropped down.
    And as a movie it feels quite a bit similar to Green Lantern, nothing I saw screamed of wasted scene or moment, and I thought it was an overall ok movie.

    Unlike the Tim Story movies which I enjoyed, I'm in no hurry to watch this movie again, I think I'd prefer staying away from it.
     
  19. Willie Lumpkin Trophy Husband

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    If there's one thing that characterizes this movie, it's 'not fun'. Why in the world would anybody ever make a comic-book movie that's 'not fun'?

    And if, for some inexplicable reason, Fox decided to make a comic-book movie that wasn't fun, they should have at least made it dramatic and intense. The lack of fun could at least be forgiven if there was some drama.

    But the lack of fun here isn't because there's a lot of intense moments pushing the fun aside.

    It's just a bunch of clinically-depressed characters sleep-walking through uninteresting events.

    It takes a special kind of talent to make a film about inter-dimensional travel and the end of the world as dull and pointless as this film was. You'd think they'd almost have to make a better film by accident.
     

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