ConFOURmed: every thing we know so far...

[Joelgarza]

The Fantastic Four (2015)
Shrouded in mystery leaving it open to speculation which gives it a alluring appeal. We don't know much about this August 2015 release but we can only hope for the best.
As a fan with to much spare time I constantly obsess over the positive and negative possibilities of this film. Until we finally have some official stills or a trailer we don't have much to work with, but let's talk official news and what we find exciting about the known facts.

The Cast, all great actors giving us a step away from the old films and a fresh take on the fantastic four all together.

Kate Mara as Sue Storm and Miles Teller as Reed Richards

Great choice, every actor will add a new touch to the character, can't wait to see how they work together on screen.

Johnny Storm as Michael B. Jordan and Ben Grimm as Jamie bell

These two are causing a lot of controversy but I hope to see the character over shadow the distraction of appearance that disturbed so many.

Reg E. Cathey as Dr. Franklin Storm

A possible chance to go in depth with the Storm family for the first time on film, I could be wrong but I think this is the first time we see franklin on film. (Not counting the unreleased 1990's mess)


"THE FANTASTIC FOUR, a contemporary re-imagining of Marvel’s original and longest-running superhero team, centers on four young outsiders who teleport to an alternate and dangerous universe, which alters their physical form in shocking ways. Their lives irrevocably upended, the team must learn to harness their daunting new abilities and work together to save Earth from a former friend turned enemy."
http://screenrant.com/fantastic-four-reboot-2015-official-plot-details/


Toby Kebbell as Victor Domashev

And of course this guy ^^^ another great actor who we will follow through his transformation into our beloved Dr. Doom.
This will be a very different and very modern take on the character.
http://www.hitfix.com/news/official...doesnt-deny-doctor-doom-is-a-programmer-rumor

The style of the film will be realistic and as we all know "gritty". The suits that we know of we're confirmed by none other than mister Johnny Storm himself.
http://www.**************.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=108742

This is not out of character for our dimension hoping, space exploring, group of adventures. They often end up in crazy get ups and I hope to see that in many versions of their famous costumes.

Personally I am hoping that the containment suits are blue with navy boots and gloves. (A throw back to their original costumes as the FF have been known to sometimes wear loose fit costumes)

What do you find most exciting about the news we know so far?
Who else has hope that this film may prove wrong the speculators? (Those who might be jumping to conclusions about this top secret production.)

 

[RAE072]

Did we really need ANOTHER Positive Thread?

EDIT:

"This will be a very different and very modern take on the character."

Yeah, because dictators ruling their own country totally aren't modern.

 

[Joelgarza]

No, we don't
but we defiantly don't need more people who are just here to complain about everything they don't like about this film. There has been enough of that, it's getting old.

This thread is aimed at discussing what we know so far on the film.

 

[Joelgarza]

It should not be positive or negative just .....opinions, speculation and constructive criticism of what little news we have so far.

 

[RAE072]

No, we don't
but we defiantly don't need more people who are just here to complain about everything they don't like about this film. There has been enough of that, it's getting old.

This thread is aimed at discussing what we know so far on the film.

This is what you're describing:

"This and that has happened."

"Yes it has."

Close thread.

You can't just state facts on a message board. There's no discussion from that, which includes positive and, yes, NEGATIVE, opinions of said facts.

 

[Joelgarza]

Did we really need ANOTHER Positive Thread?

EDIT:

"This will be a very different and very modern take on the character."

Yeah, because dictators ruling their own country totally aren't modern.

Dictators are timeless and have always unfortunately been around.
We will see Victor become the expected intimidating leader he was meant to be but I highly doubt it will be the focus of the first film. I hope the character is open and mysterious (like TDKs joker) No real origin, so in the coming sequel we may get the doom we crave.

 

[RAE072]

We will see Victor become the expected intimidating leader he was meant to be

Is that so. Love to know where you heard this.

so in the coming sequel we may get the doom we crave.

The sequel doesn't matter. What matters is THIS movie we're getting.

Saying "oh they'll get it right in the sequel" is a cop out.

I hope the character is open and mysterious (like TDKs joker)

Except he IS getting an origin. His origin in this movie is he's an anti-social programmer/blogger who gets powers along with the four and then they fight because now he's evil.

That's his origin as we know it right now.

And Doom isn't Joker. Two completely different types of characters that completely different ideas work for.

 

[Joelgarza]

This is what you're describing:

"This and that has happened."

"Yes it has."

Close thread.

You can't just state facts on a message board. There's no discussion from that, which includes positive and, yes, NEGATIVE, opinions of said facts.

It's not that simple although someone with a narrow mind could see it that way. Why are you reading this thread, you seem to be against this film? It makes no sense to me.

I just wish to discuss known facts.
Speculation about the costumes, the new take on the characters/origin, what we can expect from the Storm family, and the new take on Doom etc.

 

[RAE072]

I just wish to discuss known facts.
Speculation about the costumes, the new take on the characters/origin, what we can expect from the Storm family, and the new take on Doom etc.

That's literally exactly what is happening right above this post.

 

[Joelgarza]

Is that so. Love to know where you heard this.



The sequel doesn't matter. What matters is THIS movie we're getting.

Saying "oh they'll get it right in the sequel" is a cop out.



Except he IS getting an origin. His origin in this movie is he's an anti-social programmer/blogger who gets powers along with the four and then they fight because now he's evil.

That's his origin as we know it right now.

And Doom isn't Joker. Two completely different types of characters that completely different ideas work for.

Great characters develop over time and sometimes it takes more than one film to do that. I think the first one will focus on the four and what it's like to go from human to super human from a realistic perspective. You don't become Doom overnight and this is just one aspect of character (in his early stages). I know he is very different from the joker but what I meant was, I hope they shroud his past in mystery as done with the joker in TDK. Meaning a lot of his character will be left to your own interpretation.

 

[RAE072]

Great characters develop over time and sometimes it takes more than one film to do that

If you can't develop a character in an arc over ONE movie, you fail as a writer.

Again. As far as right now and when THIS movie comes out, the sequel doesn't exist.

I think the first one will focus on the four and what it's like to go from human to super human from a realistic perspective.

Boy does that sound exciting.

And you know, we already got that movie. It was called Chronicle.

You don't become Doom overnight and this is just one aspect of character (in his early stages).

As an anti-social programmer and blogger named Domaschev who goes by "Doom" on blog sites.

Such modern. Much hip.

 

[Human Torch]

Me and this thread:

 

[marvelmadness13]

I've got one, it's been confirmed that this will be about as faithful to the source material as Roland Emmerich's "Godzilla(in name only)" was to it's source material. It's also been confirmed that this is a rights grab, slapped together last minute to keep the Four away from Marvel.

 

[Eddie]

... this threads title looks to be pronounced like "conformed", and, frankly, if you're buying into this "fresh take" on Fantastic Four you are conforming to Fox's bs take on a franchise that should be neither grounded nor gritty.

 

[Zarex]

Great characters develop over time and sometimes it takes more than one film to do that.

We're TOTALLY going to see Galactus in the next film. He was in the cloud!

 

[Dark Raven]

Is that so. Love to know where you heard this.



The sequel doesn't matter. What matters is THIS movie we're getting.

Saying "oh they'll get it right in the sequel" is a cop out.



Except he IS getting an origin. His origin in this movie is he's an anti-social programmer/blogger who gets powers along with the four and then they fight because now he's evil.

That's his origin as we know it right now.

And Doom isn't Joker. Two completely different types of characters that completely different ideas work for.

It's not a cop out. They will probably get it right in the sequel. And if not, then in the sequel after that. And if not, then in the spin off. And if not, then in the reboot. And if not, then in the reboot after that. And if not, then in the spoof. And if not, then in the porn parody.

You've got to be patient and give them a chance. It takes more than one film.

 

[Joelgarza]

The 1966 batman was great, Just as the Nolan batman universe is great. Two completely different takes on the same characters. You can easily apply that method to this universe as well.

You have to respect other peoples visions and let it go. The world is not going to end if you don't like this movie and it shouldn't be so offensive to post a thread that isn't bashing on the movie.

I'm a fan of the fantastic four and I'm excited to see anything inspired by them.

 

[Flint Marko]

Great characters develop over time and sometimes it takes more than one film to do that.

I'm not sure if this is an attempt to defend their handling of Doom but it's a pretty weak one. You do know Doom is, by all accounts, the main villain right? They should be able to tell a great story with him in this first film, but instead they want to change him into a computer programmer and a tell a story starting there. I don't care what happens in the second film (which I doubt will ever happen), if they don't do him justice the first time out then it's game over.

The 1966 batman was great, Just as the Nolan batman universe is great. Two completely different takes on the same characters. You can easily apply that method to this universe as well.

You have to respect other peoples visions and let it go. The world is not going to end if you don't like this movie and it shouldn't be so offensive to post a thread that isn't bashing on the movie.

I'm a fan of the fantastic four and I'm excited to see anything inspired by them.

Using everything we know, it's clear to see this is quite the departure from the traditional FF, mostly in a bad way. As a fan does that not disappoint you? Doom is a blogger? Johny and Sue aren't related, and everyone is the same age? Containment suits? "Lo-fi, gritty"? None of that sounds like a good FF movie, man.

 

[Eddie]

I'm not sure if this is an attempt to defend their handling of Doom but it's a pretty weak one. You do know Doom is, by all accounts, the main villain right? They should be able to tell a great story with him in this first film, but instead they want to change him into a computer programmer and a tell a story starting there. I don't care what happens in the second film (which I doubt will ever happen), if they don't do him justice the first time out then it's game over.

Using everything we know, it's clear to see this is quite the departure from the traditional FF, mostly in a bad way. As a fan does that not disappoint you? Doom is a blogger? Johny and Sue aren't related, and everyone is the same age? Containment suits? "Lo-fi, gritty"? None of that sounds like a good FF movie, man.

Professor Monster is probably a better Doctor Doom than Domashev will be.

 

[Tony Stark]

Great characters develop over time and sometimes it takes more than one film to do that. I think the first one will focus on the four and what it's like to go from human to super human from a realistic perspective. You don't become Doom overnight and this is just one aspect of character (in his early stages). I know he is very different from the joker but what I meant was, I hope they shroud his past in mystery as done with the joker in TDK. Meaning a lot of his character will be left to your own interpretation.

This was the excuse for relegating Mark Strong, the best actor in Green Lantern to a glorified cameo for Sinestro, at the expense of making the man bad guy a floating cloud with a dismembered head. The whole development of one of the coolest bad guys in comic lore was relegated to "we must use fear against fear, let me craft a yellow power ring", and then a stupid mid credit scene.

Green Lantern and specifically the non use of Sinsetro was the biggest tease to comic fans and Green Lantern fans that ended up no where.

I'll tell you right now, as it stands this film has a less than 1% chance of getting a sequel. It would be another film where we are promised a great character arc for Doom and then are left with nothing.

 

[RAE072]

The 1966 batman was great, Just as the Nolan batman universe is great. Two completely different takes on the same characters. You can easily apply that method to this universe as well.

You have to respect other peoples visions and let it go. The world is not going to end if you don't like this movie and it shouldn't be so offensive to post a thread that isn't bashing on the movie.

I'm a fan of the fantastic four and I'm excited to see anything inspired by them.

The 60s Batman tv show was a fairly accurate portrayal of the Batman comics of the 50s and 60s.

Which was a huge departure from how Batman was originally portrayed and how he's portrayed from the 70s to today.

So...what's your point?

 

[Nemeres]

I'm a fan of the fantastic four and I'm excited to see anything inspired by them.

It's one thing with sequels, when the people who already screwed up once are given the keys to the car a second time. But folks will dismiss the film as a failure and in the same breath complain that they've barely seen anything from it yet. There's nothing wrong with giving stuff a chance. And when the film's worst crime so far is only that it's doing some stuff differently, I don't see why it doesn't deserve one.

Thanks for the compiled info.

 

[marvelmadness13]

I'd say this films worst crime is melting garbage bags onto someone.

 

[pavlov]

I see the usual suspects are trying to turn this into another "keep the hope alive" thread. Nice job for staying on topic.

 

[BatsDC]

You can hardly blame them