Comics Preview for ASM #537

[SLYspyder]

Can you say whipped? When is Peter going to become a man and stop following Stark and Cap like a puppy dog? Just by the way both Cap and Spiderman are drawn in the panels shows alot. Even though Peter is way stronger than Captain America, Cap looks like a freakin tank while Spidey looks like a 90 pound weakling who gets sand kicked in his face.

do all the idiots in charge, quesada, romita, and strazynski know about all the complaints from fans? cause im really looking forward to a spider-man comic where he is kicking ass and taking names and is actually a MAN.

 

[Themanofbat]

Happy New Year

Same to you, ol' timer... t:

 

[ragingdemon155]

Does anyone know when ASM #538 comes out?

Don't think I can wait over 2 months and so on for this issue, especially after that cliffhanger.

 

[Lt. Figgnuts]

do all the idiots in charge, quesada, romita, and strazynski know about all the complaints from fans? cause im really looking forward to a spider-man comic where he is kicking ass and taking names and is actually a MAN.

Why the hell is Romita thrown in there?

 

[MyPokerShirt]

It wasn't a bad issue by any means. I just wish that the continuity were a little better in these Civil War tie in's. It was easy to tell that this issue was right before Civil War # 6 but what the hell is up with Peter Parker suddenly being Wolverine? I mean he was knocking at death's door at the end of Civil War # 5 and the same over in Sensational Spider-Man from an attack by Rhino. I'm pretty disappointed in the continuity of the last parts in Civil War. It started out all right but then dropped off pretty badly.

Actually you can go as far back as Kraven's Last Hunt (and further -- i'm thinking Hobgoblin stuff), to see Spider-Man's enhanced healing abilities. He does heal faster than humans by quite a bit and (i cant remember where) but i've seen it written that he can heal broken bones in a few days. Now his powers have recently been enhanced...

 

[SLYspyder]

Why the hell is Romita thrown in there?

cause he keeps on decreasing the size of spider-man. he used to be my favorite, but now he's fallen off. the spider-man he drew from 7 yrs ago looked formidable. this one looks like i can take him.

 

[ragingdemon155]

cause he keeps on decreasing the size of spider-man. he used to be my favorite, but now he's fallen off. the spider-man he drew from 7 yrs ago looked formidable. this one looks like i can take him.

Spider-man has already been relatively slimmer then other heroes. I think the artist that captured it best was Bagley. Agile and graceful yet still muscular.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

I liked Dodson's Spider-Man.

 

[Miss Webb]

What really makes no sense is that Spidey is supposed to have bulked a bit more since "The Other" and now everyone's got brainlocked into that Strazinskee spindle freak look and think its the original look (it isn't). And NOW they making him SMALLER again? WTF?!

*bangs head on desk*

I might make a spindly, 50lb Spidey pic...that seems to be the fashion rage like black trenchcoats in vamp fics.

 

[CConn]

We're complaining about Spider-Man's weight now?

 

[Captivated]

What really makes no sense is that Spidey is supposed to have bulked a bit more since "The Other" and now everyone's got brainlocked into that Strazinskee spindle freak look and think its the original look (it isn't). And NOW they making him SMALLER again? WTF?!

*bangs head on desk*

I might make a spindly, 50lb Spidey pic...that seems to be the fashion rage like black trenchcoats in vamp fics.

I HEAR you and totally agree... can't STAND it when they draw Spidey so small and skinny!

Sure, he's not some overblown, exaggerated body builder type, but, COME ON... he's a MAN, NOT a freaky, spindly, little bug boy.

NEWS FLASH - Spider-Man got his name because he was BITTEN by a spider, NOT because he LOOKS like one.

 

[kguillou]

Thats why i've always hated the New Avengers interpretation of spidey, he looks like sucha skinny, scrawny little kid and everyone else is bulked up. Bagley was definitly the best spidey interpreter, he's my fav artist to date.

 

[Captivated]

Bagley... used to get it right, but he draws Spidey in USM like a skinny little freak, but at least you can say, Peter's still just in high school there.

Of course Deodato was GREAT, and I have a couple of his covers framed in my office (he was nice enough to send me a high res file of ASM #528 - Spidey was "burn your retinas" HOT on that one!)

The Dodson's also draw a fantastic Spidey.

Al Rio has never drawn a title, but his Spider-Man is classic. Do a search and you'll see what I mean.

 

[SLYspyder]

What really makes no sense is that Spidey is supposed to have bulked a bit more since "The Other" and now everyone's got brainlocked into that Strazinskee spindle freak look and think its the original look (it isn't). And NOW they making him SMALLER again? WTF?!

*bangs head on desk*

I might make a spindly, 50lb Spidey pic...that seems to be the fashion rage like black trenchcoats in vamp fics.

its quite hilarious. strazynski himself drew a bigger spider-man in that one issue dealing with his new powers, then after that, back to an even skinnier spider-man.

oh, ok, yeah, i totally forgot that last month spider-man gained an extra 15-20 lbs of muscle.

 

[ragingdemon155]

Jeez..I thought this "weight" subject was a joke.

You do realize that this is something that happens to EVERY superhero. Artists have different visions and styles for the character. It's what makes artwork in comics so amazing in the first place. I really don't see what the big deal is with Spider-man being ligther or heavier when certain artists draw him. Certain artists will capture you as far as there vision for the character is concerned...others won't.

Also just out of curiousity when was it said that Spider-man supposedly "bulked up" after "The Other"? I try to ignore anything that came out of that story in the first place.

 

[Norman Osborn]

Al Rio has never drawn a title, but his Spider-Man is classic. Do a search and you'll see what I mean.

Was over on his site alrioart...really like his Spidey remembering Gwen...would have wallpapered it but it's copyright protected

 

[HoratioRome]

I just don't like the way spider-man is always looking up to other heroes. Spider-Man has as much experience being a hero as Iron-Man and Capt America, even moreso if you ask me. He doesn't need to look up any other hero, maybe he can ask for advise once in a while, but he doesn't ****in need stark or rodgers talking to him like he's a child.

they might as well just change the name of amazing to ultimate, because he fights like a child, talks like a child and behaves like a child, even looks like a child sometimes thanks to romita jr. it's sickening watching myself mature as a reader and having peter getting more immature as a hero and a person.

maybe after they kill off his loving young wife, because lord knows peter hasn't been through enough pain in his life, and keep his old as hell aunt alive, they can bring back uncle ben, and both of them can change his diapers, when captain america whoops his ass again.

Exactly.
It really astounds me the lengths to which they are going to lessen Spider-man.
Everytime he looks up to a "real" hero it makes him less than a real hero.
They treat SM as if he is a a kid who just started out. A rookie and a clown who is annoying to be around.
From Falcon asking "what are YOU even doing here?", to Cap telling him "we don't all hate you we just think you're annoying" (or something like that) in previous books to the hero worship crap they are now doing,....it's driving me insane.
What ticks me off the most is that they seem to be doing this on purpose.
He is the ONLY character made to look and act like a clown.
Everyone else has weight and worth.
Everyone else is taken seriously. From Torch (who's the same age as Peter, and just as much a prankster), to Falcon, Luke cage, and Punisher, who were all rookies compared to Spider-man when they started out.
They all are treated as serious adults while Peter is treated as little more than a silly, annoying, and worthless kid.
the dialogue between cap and Torch is one that is between two adults. The dialogue bet/ Cap and SM is father to son or man to kid. a pretty dumb kid at that. "can I carry your lunch for like the rest of my life", are you serious?
why would a writer portray HIS character is such a subservient light?
I thought heroes were supposed to look their best in their own books.

It makes no sense. And I conclude that someone in Marvel is out to ruin SM. this can't be happening by accident.

 

[SpideyInATree]

Does anyone know when ASM #538 comes out?

Don't think I can wait over 2 months and so on for this issue, especially after that cliffhanger.

You won't have to wait that long. I believe 538 comes out Jan. 31, along with Civil War # 7. I definitely know that Amazing is double shipping this month because of the delay, so that way it can get back on track during the Back in Black storyline.

 

[ragingdemon155]

You won't have to wait that long. I believe 538 comes out Jan. 31, along with Civil War # 7. I definitely know that Amazing is double shipping this month because of the delay, so that way it can get back on track during the Back in Black storyline.

Thanks.

 

[Lt. Figgnuts]

cause he keeps on decreasing the size of spider-man. he used to be my favorite, but now he's fallen off. the spider-man he drew from 7 yrs ago looked formidable. this one looks like i can take him.

But...that doesn't have anything to do with why fans are complaining about Strazyiski and Quesada. Generally those complaints are about where Spidey is being taken story-wise.

Not to mention that I don't think I've ever heard anyone complain about weight discrepancy between writers. That's just ridiculous.

Ditko's Spider-Man was definitely and noticibly skinnier than Romita Sr.'s. Are we going to spend half a page complaining about that?

Blech.

 

[roni14]

Me likey Al Rio art,

 

[SLYspyder]

Exactly.
It really astounds me the lengths to which they are going to lessen Spider-man.
Everytime he looks up to a "real" hero it makes him less than a real hero.
They treat SM as if he is a a kid who just started out. A rookie and a clown who is annoying to be around.
From Falcon asking "what are YOU even doing here?", to Cap telling him "we don't all hate you we just think you're annoying" (or something like that) in previous books to the hero worship crap they are now doing,....it's driving me insane.
What ticks me off the most is that they seem to be doing this on purpose.
He is the ONLY character made to look and act like a clown.
Everyone else has weight and worth.
Everyone else is taken seriously. From Torch (who's the same age as Peter, and just as much a prankster), to Falcon, Luke cage, and Punisher, who were all rookies compared to Spider-man when they started out.
They all are treated as serious adults while Peter is treated as little more than a silly, annoying, and worthless kid.
the dialogue between cap and Torch is one that is between two adults. The dialogue bet/ Cap and SM is father to son or man to kid. a pretty dumb kid at that. "can I carry your lunch for like the rest of my life", are you serious?
why would a writer portray HIS character is such a subservient light?
I thought heroes were supposed to look their best in their own books.

It makes no sense. And I conclude that someone in Marvel is out to ruin SM. this can't be happening by accident.

it's the truth. they need to stop this immediately. if spider-man is to be a jokester around other heroes, which he wasn't before, they need to make him a smartass/sarcastic, not an annoying pest that won't shut the hell up.

i just don't understand. spider-man, the most heroic in the marvel universe, getting demoted to sidekick status. it baffles the mind

****in strazynski and quesada

 

[mre]

if spider-man is to be a jokester around other heroes, which he wasn't before...

Sayyyyy Whhhaaaaaattt???
I always thought Spidey was a jokester to heroes and villians... I've got hundreds of Spidey comics and he's never serious with anyone unless he's pissed or giving advice.
I do agree that they are taking it too far lately and making him extremely immature, but I think that goes hand in hand with him not being a science whiz anymore either.

 

[HoratioRome]

it's the truth. they need to stop this immediately. if spider-man is to be a jokester around other heroes, which he wasn't before, they need to make him a smartass/sarcastic, not an annoying pest that won't shut the hell up.

i just don't understand. spider-man, the most heroic in the marvel universe, getting demoted to sidekick status. it baffles the mind

****in strazynski and quesada

I forgot include Spider-woman in the list of characters who are treated with more respect and more weight than SM.


Pretty much everyone who is not literally a teenager is treated as less of a clown than SM.

The thing we have to remember is that we are talking about the FLAGSHIP, pound for pound number ONE hero of the Marvel Universe.

How can this be happening without an agenda.

I'm convinced that the spider-man haters of the early 80's who hated him because they so loved Wolverine, are now working at Marvel, and taking their turn putting SM down. Putting him in his place.

I mean seriously,..."can I carry your lunch ,..like forever?" that's so ridiculous, it's extreme. I don't think I've ever read ANY other character be that wide eyed naive and silly i the history of comic books.
Even freshed nosed little robin didn't treat Batman that way when he first became Robin.

 

[Lt. Figgnuts]

Even freshed nosed little robin didn't treat Batman that way when he first became Robin.

No, they just shared a bed together.

Sorry, I agree for the most part. Just wanted to point that one out.