Punisher 2 Update...(Marcum & Holloway rewriting it now!)

[RedIsNotBlue]

^ Oh yeah like my Fantastic Four, X-Men, Daredevil, Elektra, and Blade Trinity reviews. Red give up your quest that I love all Marvel films and nothing else. That's BS.

Past Marvel movies your a little more honest or open about because they had their run. But any future Marvel movie your always positive or building it up. There is no quest it is just what I see.

 

[Advanced Dark]

I don't know enough about Punisher 2 to be negative. It's totally unknown. It sucks Jane is gone but I'm a fan of the character so I'm positive about the future until I have a reason not to be. The reason I'm positive is because I don't think we know the whole story on why Jane left. Just like I was highly positive of War of the Worlds and King Kong...until I saw them. I'm highly positive about Escape from NY remake too. IT's not just Marvel. There's no reason NOT to be positive about Hulk and Iron Man.

 

[Beanjuice]

if thomas jane isnt in it, im not interested

 

[Advanced Dark]

Ok then one less person in this forum.

 

[Costa]

To me, with Jane in or not, I don't think the movie is going to be any good without a good script. If its a good script, i'll be looking foward to P2. Lets just hope whoever is replacing TJ plays a good a role as him.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I'd be just as happy if the deal fell through and Marvel got the rights back. It might delay a sequel even further but at this point would it really matter? Let Lionsgate fumble the ball one final time, then maybe Marvel can get a good script and hopefully lure Jane back.

I'm not saying no one else can play Frank, but Tom worked his ass off and you don't get dedication like that every day.

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ I'd be happy too on one hand...but on the other there's a chance no matter how slight that another actor might even do better. You don't know until we see. I'm keeping an open mind for now. If they pick Rob Lowe then I'll be pissed. LOL

 

[Whiskey Tango]

^

"And in entertainment news, the Punisher is back in town, but he's got a new face. We spoke with actor Paul Walker about his newest role...."

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ Oh God you deserve to be banned for that. Others disagree but I think Patrick Warburton could pull it off Max style.

 

[Kable24]

^

"And in entertainment news, the Punisher is back in town, but he's got a new face. We spoke with actor Paul Walker about his newest role...."

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! LGF needs to give the rights back to Marvel and then have them either shelve the character for a few more years or do it themselves or sell it to a studio who understands what needs to be done. Make Tom Jane a producer of it. Hire a Director who knows how to make a great action movie on a smaller budget and get a writer who knows this character in and out.

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ Marvel will get Elektra and Daredevil rights back which includes Kingpin. Imagine they got Punisher back and they worked in a Kingpin storyline.

 

[Advanced Dark]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! LGF needs to give the rights back to Marvel and then have them either shelve the character for a few more years or do it themselves or sell it to a studio who understands what needs to be done. Make Tom Jane a producer of it. Hire a Director who knows how to make a great action movie on a smaller budget and get a writer who knows this character in and out.

The only thing is if Tom Jane knows this character inside out then why is he trying to make it into Taxi Driver. It's not the same.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

The only thing is if Tom Jane knows this character inside out then why is he trying to make it into Taxi Driver. It's not the same.

Anyone have a link to where he said that? Not that I don't believe it, just never read the story/interview and I'd like to draw my own conclusions.

 

[Advanced Dark]

He said it. I'll find it.

 

[Advanced Dark]

Thomas Jane says 'Punisher 2' is more 'Taxi Driver'

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December 9, 2006 - 1823 reads

Actor Thomas Jane recently confirmed for IGN that 'The Punisher' director and co-writer Jonathan Hensleigh is in fact working on a script for the sequel.

"It's more of a Taxi Driver kind of a feel which I think we'll go for in the second movie," he says. "I think that's where the first one succeeded, where we were doing more realistic type stuff. And if we can, [we should] get away from the lighter aspects of the first film. Because I think that's where the movie failed."

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Jane: Let's see. When I took "The Punisher" job, I initially turned it down since the script really wasn't there. Then the script got a little bit better, but I wasn't quite there yet. [Producer] Avi Arad would call and talk to me about it. I had some of the comics and read them and thought, "This is ****ing not cool. This is a guy in a black spandex suit, he's got a skull on his chest and he's got white boots. This is sort of lame." So, I told Avi I just wasn't a super hero type person. They came after me for "X-Men," but I just didn't feel it. I wasn't a Marvel kid growing up and I just didn't feel like I was part of their Universe. Then Avi Arad sent me some of the MAX "Punisher" stuff with Tim Bradstreet's covers and there's this guy, in a basement with a T-Shirt on and he's just surrounded by weapons. It was then I thought, "Wow, **** man, this is 'Taxi Driver.' This is ****ing cool!" I took the job. I kept pounding everybody to get a script and a look that was similar to that.
When it came time to do some publicity stuff, I called up Marvel and said, "Listen, we gotta get this guy who did these covers to do a painting of me as the Punisher." I thought that would go a long way with the fans and would tie the two worlds, comics and movies, nicely together. They called Tim and we did a photo shoot at a little studio in Santa Monica that they set up for us. We met there, hung out all day. Tim took pictures for reference photos and stuff. That's how we struck up a friendship and how it all began.
So, Tim did these paintings and they didn't know what the **** to do with these paintings. We had these things, but Marvel doesn't do painted movie posters. That was their policy. They do photos and want to make sure it looks like a real movie. Then, when Lion's Gate showed us these photos they mocked up for the poster I thought, "Oh My God! This looks like a TNT movie. This is horrible!"
Niles: (laughs) Jane: So, they showed us several different things, but no one was really happy. I brought in Tim's paintings and I said, "Now, what the **** is wrong with these?" Everyone's eyes lit up and they just kinda went bananas. Next thing I know, Tim's done five posters for the movie and the rest is "Punisher" history.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

It's more of a Taxi Driver kind of a feel which I think we'll go for in the second movie," he says. "I think that's where the first one succeeded, where we were doing more realistic type stuff. And if we can, [we should] get away from the lighter aspects of the first film. Because I think that's where the movie failed.

Thanks for digging those up.

I dunno, that doesn't sound so bad. I didn't mind the humor and whatnot in the first movie but I know a lot of people felt it should have been ditched. Sounds to me like Jane just wanted a somewhat darker tone.

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ I don't mind Jane's idea either but it's not exactly The Punisher.

 

[Kable24]

He said Taxi Driver kind of feel. Meaning the same tone as Taxi Driver.

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ Have you seen Taxi Driver? Good flick. I want a serious Punisher movie but I don't want Taxi Driver all the way through. A little bit of the character's craziness is fine but that film was not The Punisher by any means.

 

[Kable24]

yes and I wasn't impressed when I seen it. I think you're reading to much into what he said.

 

[Advanced Dark]

What happned is Hensleigh wrote that script and they were fine with it but Lionsgate was not so they hired Nick Santora to re-write it. Apparently Jane wasn't happy so then Kurt Sutter came on board and tweaked it even more. Now Marcum and Halloway are doing an extensive re-write. There is a slight chance they might actually put together a script that Jane would approve of...however Hensleigh is gone and I'm pretty sure Jane won't touch it without Hensleigh...or a nod of approval from Hensleigh to do it. Jane does have a way back in since Marcum and Hollaway came aboard without looking bad.

 

[The Evil One]

He said Taxi Driver kind of feel. Meaning the same tone as Taxi Driver.

That's what I got from him when I first read that.

 

[Neo_aa]

I seem to remember him actually referencing Travis Bickel. Besides that, which Punisher comic reminds you of the themes within Taxi Driver? It's a horrible comparison and I don't think it would be the right movie.

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ He has said Travis before I just can't find that link.

 

[ObakeTora]

Ive figured it out. With respect to our new director Lexi Alexander, if ever given the choice of who should direct a Punisher film, I have to choose the Hughes brothers. Just watch Dead Presidents, it screams Punisher. They could have done the perfect Vietnam scenario, as well as display violence. Damn....