Pyramid Of Guitarists

jaguarr said:
I've been a musician for about 30 years. All you're doing is parroting some crap you saw on VH1.

jag

dont' have cable my friend.... don't watch TV actually... more of a movie buff....
 
Wilhelm-Scream said:
Dude, I saw that too.
He was the pioneer of METAL, not GUITAR. :o
and if you think Jimmy Page would cite him as a huge influence, lol, urine sane, hahaha

I'm sure he would... gaurentee he would


wasn't Jimmy page the guy who destroyed one of the greatest songs by performing it with puff daddy... I don't think his opinion means much anymore....
 
Maybe you watched something else, but when I watched "The History of METAL", it had "judas priest, rob zombie, metallica, slipknot, led zepplin, van hallen,", so I'd wager we're talking about the same thing.

Yeah, METAL, not "GUITAR".
They even went on beautifully about how ******ed it is when people call Led Zeppelin "Metal". Iommi was the last thing on Jimmy Page's mind. He started playing when he first heard Elvis' "Baby Let's Play House" when he was a kid and then spent his adolescence and early adulthood religiously studying the playing of all the great Black blues men.
Not the great Black Sabbath.
:o

god :o
 
JokerNick said:
Heavy metal rains supreme my friend

Your statement above does not in any way support your position, though. While you may love heavy metal and think it REIGNS supreme, it is NOT the basis for all modern music and guitar playing techniques. I like it quite a bit, too, but don't be naive. As I said before, most of it was directly ripped from blues artists and altered. In fact, Iommi made the modifications to playing slower, louder, distorted and downtuned BECAUSE he couldn't play regular blues riffs due to two of his fingers being lopped off. Yes....Black Sabbath started off as a BLUES BAND, in which they were trying to emulate and copy their favorite blues artists but couldn't, so they changed their style and wound up creating something new. If it weren't for Howlin' Wolf, Tommy Iommi would have been a dishwasher.

jag
 
jaguarr said:
Your statement above does not in any way support your position, though. While you may love heavy metal and think it REIGNS supreme, it is NOT the basis for all modern music and guitar playing techniques. I like it quite a bit, too, but don't be naive. As I said before, most of it was directly ripped from blues artists and altered. In fact, Iommi made the modifications to playing slower, louder, distorted and downtuned BECAUSE he couldn't play regular blues riffs due to two of his fingers being lopped off. Yes....Black Sabbath started off as a BLUES BAND, in which they were trying to emulate and copy their favorite blues artists but couldn't, so they changed their style and wound up creating something new. If it weren't for Howlin' Wolf, Tommy Iommi would have been a dishwasher.

jag

the best dishwasher in the world!!!!

I only like Heavy metal.... so thats why he's on top of my pyramid... you can't argue against that man.....

little off topic, but wow, what has ozzy become lately... can't beleive how much he sold out... makes me almost cry
 
JokerNick said:
I'm sure he would... gaurentee he would
Then you just plain have no idea what you're talking about, sport.

(B. James Patrick Page, Jan 9, 1944, Heston, Middlesex, England) Jimmy Page's first guitar influences were rockabilly guitarists Scotty Moore and James Burton, who both played on Elvis Presley recordings, and Johnny Day who played guitar for The Everly Brothers. The Presley song "Baby Let's Play House" was an early favorite on his first guitar, a Grazzioso which was like a copy of a Fender Stratocaster. Page was also a fan of acoustic folk guitar playing particularly that of Bert Jansch and John Renbourn, and the blues guitar of Elmore James and B.B. King.

Jimmy Page is my Lord and Savior. I dare say I've hunted down and read or watched every interview he ever did. I've heard the same things from the 70's to the present day.....those ^ names as major influences, and the fact that he'd totally get pissed off when critics of the day would compare his music to that of bands like Mountain or Black Sabbath.

I'm done talking to willful ignorance-man.
 
jaguarr said:
If it weren't for Howlin' Wolf, Tommy Iommi would have been a dishwasher.
yep, more likely a factory worker.
BTW, doesn't it blow that he lost his fingertips in an accident on his LAST day of work?!?
I think I would've just become suicidal if my finger-tips got chopped off because they had me running a machine with which I was unfamiliar on my LAST day at work.
The fact that he fashioned prosthetic fingertips and thereby stumbled upon the totally essential de-tuning is an inspiration.
 
JokerNick said:
the best dishwasher in the world!!!!

I only like Heavy metal.... so thats why he's on top of my pyramid... you can't argue against that man.....

little off topic, but wow, what has ozzy become lately... can't beleive how much he sold out... makes me almost cry

Well, when you claim Iommi is the godfather of all electric guitar players, yeah I can argue against that. Hehe! :D

I think Ozzy can thank/blame Sharon for his current status, btw.

jag
 
Wilhelm-Scream said:
yep, more likely a factory worker.
BTW, doesn't it blow that he lost his fingertips in an accident on his LAST day of work?!?
I think I would've just become suicidal if my finger-tips got chopped off because they had me running a machine with which I was unfamiliar on my LAST day at work.
The fact that he fashioned prosthetic fingertips and thereby stumbled upon the totally essential de-tuning is an inspiration.

Yeah, the prosthetic fingertips were ingenious and that accident is what ultimately made Sabbath's eventual sound a possibility. It probably wouldn't have ever come about if it hadn't been for that, ironically enough.

jag
 
JokerNick said:
if it wasn't for him, there would be no pink floyd, there would be no led zepplin, there wold be no metallica... there would be nothing....
So Led Zeppelin, a band that released their first albums in 1969, would have never existed if not for Iommi and Black Sabbath who released their FIRST album after Zeppelin had released THREE? Great argument there genius. :up:
 
Green Lantern said:
So Led Zeppelin, a band that released their first albums in 1969, would have never existed if not for Iommi and Black Sabbath who released their FIRST album after Zeppelin had released THREE? Great argument there genius. :up:

I would say stop picking on the little stoner but this is funnier than one of leaguers threads :D :up:
 
ANTHONYNASTI said:
I'll check him out.

BTW, you into Nick Cave? I just started to get into him, and he's really great.
I love you.

Note to all:

This is cool.
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This is silly.
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hippy fascist said:
I would say stop picking on the little stoner but this is funnier than one of leaguers threads :D :up:

excuse me, little stoner....
 
hippy fascist said:
sorry, MAJOR stoner?

I'll take it as a joke

for your information though, I haven't smoked weed in probably 4 years....
 
So then how do you explain your claim that Zeppelin would have never existed without Sabbath, seeing that Zep had three albums before Sabbath debuted?
 
Fried Gold said:
Actually, yes.

Cool.
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Silly.
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no idea who that bottom guy is....

see, i don't listen to **** like "mayhem", infact, I hate most of Slipknots old stuff, I really enjoy their new cd though... I'm more of a regular hard rock guy, old metallica, black sabbath... the newer bands I listen too are that of Drowning Pool, Disturbed, Mudvayne, and SOAD... I'm sure I'll hear flack now from you all knowing rock gods....
 
JokerNick said:
no idea who that bottom guy is....

see, i don't listen to **** like "mayhem", infact, I hate most of Slipknots old stuff, I really enjoy their new cd though... I'm more of a regular hard rock guy, old metallica, black sabbath... the newer bands I listen too are that of Drowning Pool, Disturbed, Mudvayne, and SOAD... I'm sure I'll hear flack now from you all knowing rock gods....
You pride yourself on being a classic Metalhead yet you don't recognize a pic of KERRY F**KING KING?!? Slayer?!?
 
Green Lantern said:
So then how do you explain your claim that Zeppelin would have never existed without Sabbath, seeing that Zep had three albums before Sabbath debuted?

I was wrong, okay, get over yourself... **** sake, you make fun of what I said, but minus the ones of you that are in bands, you sure have alot of useless trivia knowledge, kind of sad actually, idolizing people you will never meet, its nothing more then sounds, and words.......I'd like to know what you do for a living, probably a blockbuster clerk, dicussing how kids don't know what good music is....
 
UBER Cool. :word: :word: :word:
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jock wanker who ruins other people's songs :cmad:
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Did you see Tom Waits Cameo in mystery men? ****ing hillarious man, and is it just me or is he the spit of ron perlman?
 
JokerNick said:
Disturbed
I can just see you, air-guitaring in your mirror with their "wicked" Tears For Fears cover pumping through your system.:meow:
 

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