Quentin Tarantino's The Hateful Eight

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This is why I never watch Spike Lee movies because Inside Man aside(which is his lone movie that I like), he doesn't seem to be able to talk about anything else.

Yeah it's pretty obvious you never watch his movies if that's what you think.

She's Gotta Have It
School Daze
Mo Betta Blues
He Got Game
Crooklyn
25th Hour
Clockers
She Hate Me (this is one you definitely SHOULD NOT see just because it is terrible)

None of those movies are about race relations.
 
Yeah it's pretty obvious you never watch his movies if that's what you think.

She's Gotta Have It
School Daze
Mo Betta Blues
He Got Game
Crooklyn
25th Hour
Clockers
She Hate Me (this is one you definitely SHOULD NOT see just because it is terrible)

None of those movies are about race relations.

Spike lee is very planted in the racial atmosphere. You don't have to be blind to see that. QT too like above was said has spent too much time now on racial issues in his movies to the point it becomes a little too politically driven somewhat tiresome. There are plenty other topics that can be covered at this point and race relations have been dealt with too vomit inducing levels.
 
Spike lee is very planted in the racial atmosphere. You don't have to be blind to see that.

:huh:

QT too like above was said has spent too much time now on racial issues in his movies to the point it becomes a little too politically driven somewhat tiresome. There are plenty other topics that can be covered at this point and race relations have been dealt with too vomit inducing levels.

I haven't seen Inglorious Basterds so I don't know how "race" relations was dealt with in that flick. It should go without saying what a movie like Django Unchained will deal with. I don't see how H8 is a race relations movie, but if that's your take okay. All I can say is don't go see the movie...I sure as hell won't since I just watched the bootleg.
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Terry did you read the article ?
I read the article this morning and he denies all involvement. And i do agree with chidero.
I just can't see a CEO of a major company doing this :

A copy of the new Quentin Tarantino movie The Hateful Eight that leaked online earlier this week has been linked to a top Hollywood film executive, sources tell The Hollywood Reporter.

Andrew Kosove, co-CEO of production-finance company Alcon Entertainment, was sent the “screener” copy of Hateful Eight for year-end awards consideration. That copy was signed for by an office assistant and later shared online, where it is now circulating on multiple file-sharing sites. Sources say officials with the FBI, working in conjunction with distributor The Weinstein Co., have been able to pinpoint Kosove's copy of the film as the source of the leak from a watermark on the DVD sent to him. FBI agents are visiting Alcon’s Century City headquarters Tuesday to determine the chain of custody of the DVD and who is responsible for its uploading. Alcon is cooperating fully in the investigation.

"I've never seen this DVD," Kosove tells THR in an interview. "It's never touched my hands. We're going to do more than cooperate with the FBI. We're going to conduct our own investigation to find out what happened."

Indeed, it is likely that Kosove is a victim in this leak rather than the perpetrator. Another employee at Alcon could have obtained and uploaded the DVD, or someone who either was given the screener or stole it could be responsible. Regardless, between 200,000 and 600,000 downloads of the film, depending on various reports, occurred the first day it was available online. Physical copies of Hateful Eight have been seen for sale on street corners in China and other markets.



According to a “Web Watch” report produced in response to the leak and shared with THR, an office assistant named "Tom" signed for the DVD at Alcon's offices. Later, a hacker or hackers identifying themselves as Hive-CM8 uploaded the Hateful Eight file after attempting to remove watermark technology from the DVD, which was manufactured by Deluxe. A message posted in a file-sharing chat room stated Hateful Eight was “one of 40” current movies that would be uploaded by Hive-CM8. “Will do all of them one after another … started with the hottest title of the year. Others will follow.”

Movie screeners are a Hollywood tradition during the annual awards season. It’s generally accepted that a distributor is all but required to send screeners to the voting members of the Academy, Screen Actors Guild and other awards bodies if a film hopes to garner nominations for Oscars, SAG Awards and other accolades.

But over the past decade, as file-sharing services have proliferated, screeners have leaked online with greater frequency. In 2003, the MPAA briefly banned studios from sending out screeners in response to the problem. That policy didn’t last, but in 2004, the Academy voted to expel member Carmine Caridi, a 70-year-old actor who appeared in The Godfather, after he admitted sending copies of movies in the awards race to a friend in Chicago. (Films that popped up online were traced back to Caridi's screeners.) Later, an Illinois man was arrested for allegedly duping Caridi into turning over his screeners; the man eventually pleaded guilty to copyright infringement.



In more recent years, screeners of several top movies have leaked online. The most damage can be caused to films that are not in general release when screeners are shared. Hateful Eight — a highly-anticipated $70 million Western starring Samuel L. Jackson and Kurt Russell, which opens in limited release Friday and goes wide Dec. 31 — falls into that category. So does The Revenant, another big-budget film whose screener leaked online earlier this week. That film, starring Leonardo DiCaprio and directed by Alejandro G. Inarritu, opens in limited release Friday and expands nationwide Jan. 8. It’s unclear if Kosove’s screener is the source of that leak as well.

Alcon, the film financier and production company backed by FedEx founder Fred Smith, is perhaps best known for the 2009 smash The Blind Side. The company, which has distribution deal at Warner Bros, is run by Kosove (who was nominated for a best picture Oscar for producing Blind Side) and co-CEO Broderick Johnson.

Alcon’s latest movie, a $100 million remake of the 1991 Kathryn Bigelow action-thriller Point Break, is set to hit U.S. theaters on Friday. Kosove says he is "furious" at the leak of his DVD, which he says is a symbol of widespread online "theft" of films. "It's not an issue of just one movie," he says. "This is a threat to an entire industry."


CEO's of production studios do oppose movie piracy considering their companies (partially) fund these movies meaning that the do feel the potential revenue loss directly when it comes to piracy.
 
Yeah, I misunderstood what I skimmed. I knew he didn't do it per se but his upload was a source.
 
Yeah it's pretty obvious you never watch his movies if that's what you think.

She's Gotta Have It
School Daze
Mo Betta Blues
He Got Game
Crooklyn
25th Hour
Clockers
She Hate Me (this is one you definitely SHOULD NOT see just because it is terrible)

None of those movies are about race relations.


25th Hour is such a poetic and powerful movie.
 
Anyone seen Chiraq yet?

Is it good?

Spike Lee needs to get his mojo back.
 
Didn't play where I live...I would've had to drive almost an hour to see it and I can't picture myself doing that for ANY movie. But a friend of mine did exactly that and he enjoyed it. I've heard mixed reviews, otherwise.
 
Didn't play where I live...I would've had to drive almost an hour to see it and I can't picture myself doing that for ANY movie. But a friend of mine did exactly that and he enjoyed it. I've heard mixed reviews, otherwise.

Yeah, driving an hour for a movie is risky.

If it sucks the drive home is extra long. :woot:


Looks like it has an 82% on RottenTomatoes which means it's probably decent but not a masterpiece.
 
Back on topic, Hateful Eight has only a 77% on RT.

I was hoping for more critical acclaim.
 
Back on topic, Hateful Eight has only a 77% on RT.

I was hoping for more critical acclaim.

Me too. Looking back on it now though, it's so Quentin. Like so by the book it's almost a parody of himself or like someone took his tropes and made a movie out of it. It's not bad by any means and it's very enjoyable imo but I guess it just doesn't feel that new. Gorgeous photography though
 
I'm not surprised. Of course this would never be bad by any means, I just figured it would be of lesser quality compared to his other films due to his whole attitude lately. Leading up to this movie the man talked more about his precious 70 mm film format than the actual story. It feels like Tarantino's style or personal loves getting too much in the way of his storytelling, which he has always been the master of balancing before. I just don't feel it coming off of the trailers. I've had the opposite reaction with Django and Basterds. I don't even know if I want to see a three hour film that takes place in one room. The man is the master at making those scenes work but three hours? Reservoir Dogs had the same concept and was fine at 90 minutes.

And the 70 mm projector breaking down on him where digital had to save the screening... how ironic.
 
I'm gonna say this:

I never liked Dennis Miller, but he got worse when he became more self aware. So he felt obligated to be more 'intellectual' with his jokes, which all seems forced.

QT became too self-aware of his reputation, and the death of his late editor didn't help either. She was his Gary Kurtz to his Lucas, because Django was overly long. And it seems like he has the same issue here (i'm seeing it on Saturday)
 
I also question the logic of releasing a 3 hour talky western. Seems ridiculously bloated.
 
I also question the logic of releasing a 3 hour talky western. Seems ridiculously bloated.

It really was. The characters were thin outside of Jackson, who's easily the standout of the film. Overall, it just brings nothing new or interesting to the table. Despite the one room gimmick, it still felt very...standard. It's not unbearably awful, it's got great cinematography, the score's fantastic, but the script is not up to scratch to make 3 hours with these characters worthwhile. It's a decent enough one time watch but I don't see myself ever bothering with it again.
 
From the Double Toasted review, they mentioned the first half of the movie (everything before the intermission) was fantastic, but the 2nd half was the Grindhouse **** that he can't get away from.


I still can't find a theater near me this weekend so I guess I'll wait and maybe do a double feature with this and The Revenant.
 
It really was. The characters were thin outside of Jackson, who's easily the standout of the film. Overall, it just brings nothing new or interesting to the table. Despite the one room gimmick, it still felt very...standard. It's not unbearably awful, it's got great cinematography, the score's fantastic, but the script is not up to scratch to make 3 hours with these characters worthwhile. It's a decent enough one time watch but I don't see myself ever bothering with it again.

I was kinda shocked to see how SMALL that bar is in the movie. I thought it would've been a small town, but complete with a saloon, motel, local jail, etc. But here's they're literally stuck in a place barely bigger than a garage.

I love 12 Angry Men..but 12 Angry Men wasn't 3 hours long.

We'll see what happens.
 
So I could not resist myself and did a double feature of this and The Revenant. Ahem. :sly: Don't worry you bastahs, I will still pay for those tickets in time. I will see Revenant on the big screen (so good).

I liked this. This is a 7.5 for me.
 
Tarantino could change the story and not have it in only one house. but than it would be easier and more people would like it.

Not every Tarantino movie needs to be big in scope and have action
 
Saw it today and i thought it was a great film the last 45 minutes were interesting It was pretty easy trying to solve the mystery i wish they would have made it a lot more intense
 
Tarantino could change the story and not have it in only one house. but than it would be easier and more people would like it.

Not every Tarantino movie needs to be big in scope and have action
Well if you are going to make a 3 hour movie about people hanging out in a house, it better be your best writing.
 
If anyone cares, Tarantino said Mad Max: Fury Road was his favorite 2015 movie.
 
Tarantino could change the story and not have it in only one house. but than it would be easier and more people would like it.

Not every Tarantino movie needs to be big in scope and have action

True. The performances carry the movie and I had absolutely no problem with it being dialogue heavy and whatnot. It just seems like a filler movie at the end of the day though, like just more Tarantino fun while I wait for his next big thing.. and that's coming from a huge fan.

I still had a smile on my face most of the time and had alot of 'oh crap!' moments though. Like I said, it's still classic Tarantino fun
 
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