Quentin Tarantino's The Hateful Eight

[FilmNerdJamie]

Looks like DVD screeners have leaked for this and a bunch of other films like The Revenant, Peanuts and Creed.

This literally happens every year around this time. They're sending out DVD screeners to critics' groups and guild members... who in turn hand off their copies to friends/family (and more times than naught let them fill out their ballots). Of course, it was going to leak. Non-newsy as Hell; not knocking you for bringing it up but it amazes me how this was a legit-covered news-item.

If this underperforms like I suspect it will (nothing to do with quality), I'm sure that will be the excuse used. A weak-sauce argument since screeners for Lone Survivor and American Sniper leaked well ahead of their releases and yet both were huge hits.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

If Django made around 160 m DOM then why would Hateful 8 have a disappointing run at the box office?

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I had a chance to see this early last night and I wont dare give away spoilers but I will say this SPOILER -FREE:

- The acting and dialogue are just top notch
- Kurt Russell still has IT and I wish he would do more roles
- The entire cast including a special cameo just work so well with each other
- The atmosphere/ cinematography are just breath taking and outstanding sound

the negative:

The story really drags honestly and I felt battle fatigue like I did watching inglorious bastards where the dialogue while great really wears you down as there is hardly any action in the film. I love dialogue and great characters but in a western by Tarantino I need some action and it was just too far in between here.

I would say if you can make it through the first 2 hours not bored then when the action does come you'll at least love it til the end.

3.3/5

I caved in and watched the leaked screener of this and wow it's another Tarantino classic.

I'd say 3 hours is maybe a tad too long as it did start dragging a bit but you just have to get through those part's. Kurt Russell was fantastic as was SLJ. Will see it on the big screen to see where it ranks on my Tarantino lsit but for now it's 9/10.

How would you guys rank QT's filmography including H8?

 

[Fallen Angel]

Reservoir Dogs
Pulp Fiction
Kill Bill vol 1
*The Hateful Eight
Django Unchained
Inglorious Basterds
Jackie Brown
Kill Bill vol 2
Death Proof


*- For now. When I see it again, I'll make the list more definitive.

 

[Supernova]

Pulp Fiction/Django Unchained
Kill Bill vol 1
Inglorious Basterds
The Hateful Eight
Kill Bill vol 2
Reservoir Dogs
Jackie Brown
Death Proof

Death proof is easily his worst film

 

[Rowsdower!]

Death Proof is such a buzzkill. I love the first half of Grindhouse. It gets EVERYTHING right. The fake trailers are epic. Planet Terror is hilarious. And then Death Proof just kills the momentum completely. Kurt Russell is awesome and the car chases are pretty good but it's just such a sucky movie. I mean, I get what Tarantino was going for in that most Grindhouse films were weak on plot and all that. But I feel like he should have raised his game and made a Grindhouse-style film that was actually good (like Rodriguez did) instead of making a movie that's just as crappy as an actual Grindhouse film.

 

[Supernova]

yeah I always felt Rodriguez got the concept of what they were doing with grindhouse while Tarantino came off like he was lost and confused. Tarantino's long dialogue moments didn't quite gel with planet terrors quick moving energy. That's why I bought just planet terror on bluray and never thought about death proof ever again.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Even Tarantino admits Death Proof sucked.

Outside of that his filmography is one of the best.

 

[Kane52630]

Ah, Death Proof... where the first half of the film was an attempt at a "Grindhouse" film while the 2nd half was a "f*** it, let me do me."

 

[RockSP]

My in depth H8 review: cool movie, over all.

 

[redhawk23]

yeah I always felt Rodriguez got the concept of what they were doing with grindhouse while Tarantino came off like he was lost and confused. Tarantino's long dialogue moments didn't quite gel with planet terrors quick moving energy. That's why I bought just planet terror on bluray and never thought about death proof ever again.

Actually Tarantino's film is much closer to what those 70s films were actually like. Planet Terror is much more of a modern pastiche, much akin to this year's Kung Fury.

 

[redhawk23]

Did anyone see that CMT had a "Making of Hateful 8" feature on last night? I guess they think country music fans will be into a western. I watched part of it but then turned it off because I didn't want to see clips from the film. Part of it was just that Panavision 70mm featureette they had already posted online.

 

[childeroland]

To anyone else who's seen it. Is [BLACKOUT]the Lincoln letter[/BLACKOUT] [BLACKOUT]real[/BLACKOUT] or a [BLACKOUT]forgery?[/BLACKOUT]

 

[RockSP]

[BLACKOUT]A forgery. Sam's character says so himself.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[childeroland]

OK. Thanks. [BLACKOUT]The way Goggins read it in the end, I mistakenly figured maybe there might be a twist I missed and it was real.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

I guess I'm one of the few who really liked death proof

 

[terry78]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hateful-eight-pirated-screener-traced-850899

CEO of Alcon was the one that apparently uploaded it.

 

[childeroland]

I bet someone in his office gave it to a friend. It's hard to believe the CEO of a production finance company would do that.

 

[kedrell]

7.5/10

Which is rather weak as QT movies go(only Deathproof do I rate lower as that's QT's one bad movie still). I dunno, this one seemed just like it didn't have that usual extra spark of interesting. It's a fine movie and worth a watch to be sure with great performances all around. There are plenty of really nice set pieces and individual scenes in the film. But as mysteries go it left me a tad cold. Like the reveals didn't completely justify the build up. Maybe I'll think differently about it after a second viewing(whenever I get around to it which I won't be in a big hurry to do) but as it stands right now I think that this is definitely on the shallower end of QT's filmography. It's not Deathproof bad but I think I'd rank all of QT's other movies ahead of it at this point. All the rest of them scratched an itch that I didn't know I had at a minimum and I really can't say this did that.

 

[kedrell]

How would you guys rank QT's filmography including H8?

1. Pulp Fiction A+
2. Reservoir Dogs A
3. Jackie Brown A-
4. Inglorious Basterds B+/A-
5. Django Unchained B/B+
6. Kill Bill(which I regard as just one movie) B
7. The Hateful Eight B-/B


8. DeathProof C-

I'm definitely in 'the 90's were his best' camp.

 

[misjuevos]

Love seeing Kurt Russell. He should have made more westerns. I also am glad to see Tim Roth again. I always liked him.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

I really liked it. Definitely Tarantino's 'smallest' film to date. Loved his meta joke addressing the n-word criticism

 

[kedrell]

That's another issue I had with this movie. Not that his use bothered me so much but that yet again we have to have a movie of his where race relations plays a huge part in terms of plot and theme. I'm a little exhausted of this damn subject. This is why I never watch Spike Lee movies because Inside Man aside(which is his lone movie that I like), he doesn't seem to be able to talk about anything else. QT seems to be going in the same direction and I wish he wouldn't. None of his first five films had this problem but this is 3 movies in a row about this stuff. It's overkill. I was ok with it in IB and DU but at some point during TH8 I found myself getting sick of it.

 

[terry78]

Him and Spike are political satire directors, that's what they do. Interject their thoughts into their art.

 

[kedrell]

Which is fine but it becomes a problem when obsession with one singular subject is all you've got. Spike lives there. I don't want QT to be the same way. There ARE other subjects to focus on that are worthy of attention.