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Question about Hal Jordan and racism

Assassin said:
Laugh at what ever you want, but we already have a "class prick" arond here, his names The Leaguer, and no matter how much you try, you cant be a bigger prick than him. Go try the marvel boards, they need someone of your talents.
I know all about the Leaguer. His decline impresses me no more than it does you. But ya still gotta love the guy, don't ya?
 
My decline in lameness should astonish you. After all, I managed to go from not being lame at all to being even less lame than that.
 
Aristotle said:
I know all about the Leaguer. His decline impresses me no more than it does you. But ya still gotta love the guy, don't ya?

No. Somebody loved him too much already.

That's the only excuse I can find for the way he acts.

He's like the class bully that picks on people because his dad slaps him around every time he looks cross eyed, not realizing he was born that way because his parents were meth addicts.

Wasn't this topic about Hal Jordan and him being a racist bastard?

Whatever prejudices he had, he probably quickly lost after hanging out with talking fungus, and anthro raccoons.
 
Purple Man said:
No. Somebody loved him too much already.

That's the only excuse I can find for the way he acts.

He's like the class bully that picks on people because his dad slaps him around every time he looks cross eyed, not realizing he was born that way because his parents were meth addicts.


Wasn't this topic about Hal Jordan and him being a racist bastard?

Whatever prejudices he had, he probably quickly lost after hanging out with talking fungus, and anthro raccoons.

the quote in his sig, he didnt quote the whole thing, i said he was raped by his uncle or something like that lol.
 
Purple Man said:
Wasn't this topic about Hal Jordan and him being a racist bastard?

Whatever prejudices he had, he probably quickly lost after hanging out with talking fungus, and anthro raccoons.


Means nothing. Ive gone to school with white supremacists (no lie) and we had a large black population at school. Association doesn't mean they aren't racist.
 
My dad was born and raised in Baghdad Iraq and he hates Muslums, so yea, Rogers right, again :down
 
Darthphere said:
Means nothing. Ive gone to school with white supremacists (no lie) and we had a large black population at school. Association doesn't mean they aren't racist.
truth.
it's like the worst ones compartmentalize to function in society.

they keep their hatred under control in most situations where it could get them hurt.

I worked alongside card-carrying KKK'ers in the Coast Guard,.... interesting to say the least.
 
Varient said:
truth.
it's like the worst ones compartmentalize to function in society.

they keep their hatred under control in most situations where it could get them hurt.

I worked alongside card-carrying KKK'ers in the Coast Guard,.... interesting to say the least.
Those guys have cards now? Gosh. You think they argue over bylaws at those meetings too? Doesn't seem like a club about hating people needs to be quite so official, you know? Just be like, "Hey guys, we still ****in' hate everybody that ain't us? Wait, Byron, you don't? Get the **** out, *****! Alright, the rest of us, let's go ***** into our coffee and pancakes down at Reba's for breakfast! South gonna rise again!"
 
Aristotle said:
Those guys have cards now? Gosh. You think they argue over bylaws at those meetings too? Doesn't seem like a club about hating people needs to be quite so official, you know? Just be like, "Hey guys, we still ****in' hate everybody that ain't us? Wait, Byron, you don't? Get the **** out, *****! Alright, the rest of us, let's go ***** into our coffee and pancakes down at Reba's for breakfast! South gonna rise again!"


Coherence.
 
Aristotle said:
Those guys have cards now? Gosh. You think they argue over bylaws at those meetings too? Doesn't seem like a club about hating people needs to be quite so official, you know? Just be like, "Hey guys, we still ****in' hate everybody that ain't us? Wait, Byron, you don't? Get the **** out, *****! Alright, the rest of us, let's go ***** into our coffee and pancakes down at Reba's for breakfast! South gonna rise again!"

:huh: Please stop, remember when Darth had a black guy smoking in his avatar? back then when you only lurked and never posted?

I liked you better then:o
 
Assassin said:
:huh: Please stop, remember when Darth had a black guy smoking in his avatar? back then when you only lurked and never posted?

I liked you better then:o
Ah, yes, those days. The days when I "lurked." Right.
 
Aristotle said:
Those guys have cards now? Gosh. You think they argue over bylaws at those meetings too? Doesn't seem like a club about hating people needs to be quite so official, you know? Just be like, "Hey guys, we still ****in' hate everybody that ain't us? Wait, Byron, you don't? Get the **** out, *****! Alright, the rest of us, let's go ***** into our coffee and pancakes down at Reba's for breakfast! South gonna rise again!"
Sarcasm noted.

I doubt they argue anything of interest to this board and hatred over difference w/o reason doesn't req a club.
.
It only requires that you judge all for the actions of some ,.. or one.
.
Or believe the worst of some, to justify the dirt you'd do them if you can.
.

Seriously,.. I turned a few from the "white" side (Play on words intended),
One by example,... one by doing better in all ways he thought he had over on me,... one by beating his behind when he crossed a line a line he wouldn't want me to cross.

I believe that a large portion of them simply don't know any better,.. they believe the hype as put forth by our society.

Sad really,.. dealing with them is time never recovered.

On topic: Some of them have Business cards, Wear T-Shirts or Pins, Wear jewelry and watches, fly rebel flags, (in the south), and of course wear variations on those white hoods.

A large group believe that they are Gods chosen people,.. (like the more rabid muslims), and are looking forward to the race war promised them at the end of Slavery.

Eh,.. lets change the subject,.. I'm getting depressed.
 
Artistsean said:
green-lantern-green-arrow2.jpg

?

Where is this from anyway?The comic.
 
Varient said:
Sarcasm noted.

I doubt they argue anything of interest to this board and hatred over difference w/o reason doesn't req a club.
.
It only requires that you judge all for the actions of some ,.. or one.
.
Or believe the worst of some, to justify the dirt you'd do them if you can.
.

Seriously,.. I turned a few from the "white" side (Play on words intended),
One by example,... one by doing better in all ways he thought he had over on me,... one by beating his behind when he crossed a line a line he wouldn't want me to cross.

I believe that a large portion of them simply don't know any better,.. they believe the hype as put forth by our society.

Sad really,.. dealing with them is time never recovered.

On topic: Some of them have Business cards, Wear T-Shirts or Pins, Wear jewelry and watches, fly rebel flags, (in the south), and of course wear variations on those white hoods.

A large group believe that they are Gods chosen people,.. (like the more rabid muslims), and are looking forward to the race war promised them at the end of Slavery.

Eh,.. lets change the subject,.. I'm getting depressed.

I'm originally from St. Louis and I remember a big public outcry when the local chapter of the KKK tried to adopt part of the highway for cleaning. All the protests were the same. The KKK saying that they have a right to adopt the highway since they are a legal organization, and everyone else saying "but you're the ****ing KKK". Interesting times to say the least.

Edit: haha...just saw the end where you wanted to change the subject...sorry
 
kytrigger said:
All the protests were the same. The KKK saying that they have a right to adopt the highway since they are a legal organization, and everyone else saying "but you're the ****ing KKK". Interesting times to say the least.

It's funny how it's okay to hate the haters, and judge the judgemental... as though it's not hypocritical as long as the other person was a hypocrite first. Heh.

I also think that just because someone doesn't kill minorities for kicks doesn't make them NOT a racist... just cuz you know a rich black guy doesn't mean racism is dead... it's just silly extremism. Everyone has biases... everyone has been raised with racial biases, which are more or less prejudices and everyone who plays to their prejudices eventually does racist things, often without realizing it, and typically with a plausible explanation that doesn't hold up under scrutiny...

That said... Hal is mindnumbingly racist... (But he has black friends. :whatever: ) As soon as Hal starts backing up John and not the other way around, then MAYBE he'll start to be able to look at blacks as equals. He's got three of them on the JLA... perhaps they can give him a clue... or follow his orders like good little negroes. :wow:
 
kytrigger said:
I'm originally from St. Louis and I remember a big public outcry when the local chapter of the KKK tried to adopt part of the highway for cleaning. All the protests were the same. The KKK saying that they have a right to adopt the highway since they are a legal organization, and everyone else saying "but you're the ****ing KKK". Interesting times to say the least.

Edit: haha...just saw the end where you wanted to change the subject...sorry
That's okay,... Racism remains a very "sticky" subject. And ther thread is about whether Hal Jordan is Racist or not.

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I already gave my opinion on that.


V.
 
I think the question of whether or not Hal Jordan, and many other characters, is racist comes down to who is writing him at the time.
When Hal was created and first written,
I know that Neal Adams and the writer, (sorry but what is his name?), when they did this story they were using him to raise a social issue. They tried to have him grow.
and now I really don't think they want him to be racist, but they may not even consider that an issue to deal with.
 
The racism of Hal showed a good tie to humanit, and how it's nothing more than a choice bathed in social influences. The choice to change is as powerful for humans as it is for villains. Nice touch.
 
Artistsean said:
I think the question of whether or not Hal Jordan, and many other characters, is racist comes down to who is writing him at the time.
When Hal was created and first written,
I know that Neal Adams and the writer, (sorry but what is his name?), when they did this story they were using him to raise a social issue. They tried to have him grow.
and now I really don't think they want him to be racist, but they may not even consider that an issue to deal with.

Have you not read any of the replies, people have posted to your posts???

Yes, I have read the comics in question and no Hal Jordan isn't and never has been a racist. Looking at single panels simply doesn't enable you to see the story in context. There are many many examples of how this has been done in lots of comics and the characters implicated aren't racist in any regard.

Of course it will depend on the views of the writer, but Denny O'Neil cetainly wasn't racist and never intended Gl to be.
 
Everyone knows Denny O'Neil hated the Blacks :rolleyes:
 

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