Sequels Question for those who didn´t like the movie...

[deemar325]

Michael Bay should direct The Justice league Movie

Hell no!! The only reason Transformers came out pretty good, is most likely due to Steven Spielberg making sure Bay doesn't 'Pearl Harbor' the flick even then it had it's problems.

The only positive thing I can say about a Michael Bay JUSTICE LEAGUE movie is the action scenes would donkey punch you in the balls, and make you happy for it because of its awesomeness, other than that Bay would probally have Batman in his 1960s Adam West costume, Eddie Griffin & Anthony Anderson as Snapper Car and Jimmy Olsen respectively, G'Nort, perpectual camera shots on WonderWoman's ass (That I wouldn't mind..) GreenLantern smashing Sinestro with a giant green 'I-Pod', a shot of Aquaman drinking 'Aquafina' water and circular camera shot (BadBoys style) of Supes and Bats after barely surving a huge explosion.

 

[deemar325]

I think we all agree there!

Danke

 

[Motown Marvel]

Hell no!! The only reason Transformers came out pretty good, is most likely due to Steven Spielberg making sure Bay doesn't 'Pearl Harbor' the flick even then it had it's problems.

not even spielberg as producer could ensure a quality film from bay, i.e. The Island. man, that films was a serious piece of garbage!

The only positive thing I can say about a Michael Bay JUSTICE LEAGUE movie is the action scenes would donkey punch you in the balls, and make you happy for it because of its awesomeness, other than that Bay would probally have Batman in his 1960s Adam West costume, Eddie Griffin & Anthony Anderson as Snapper Car and Jimmy Olsen respectively, G'Nort, perpectual camera shots on WonderWoman's ass (That I wouldn't mind..) GreenLantern smashing Sinestro with a giant green 'I-Pod', a shot of Aquaman drinking 'Aquafina' water and circular camera shot (BadBoys style) of Supes and Bats after barely surving a huge explosion.

you win, sir. you win.

 

[deemar325]

No, I wouldn't. I would prefer to see him gone. I don't like his style of direction, I haven't liked ANY of his movies, including the X-Men movies or even Usual Suspects.

And for me, even correcting the things you mentioned still isn't enough. I burned with a white hot hatred for the mutilation of the characters .. and that's the director's fault, as well. Even if all the things you mentioned, were changed, that still wouldn't save the film with such a boring, complacent Chief and an even more boring, lifeless Lois.

Meh..I'm sorta kinda with you a bit, but I think Singer is a good director. I think his problem is that he's to much of a limp wrist at times and he's just not to in touch with his masculinity, he's a cerebral type too into emotions and feelings and over conceptualized plots and crap.

Which is good for movies like Usual Suspects and Apt Pupil. I feel if Singer could just understand that this is SUPERMAN the original superhero and that Aliens, Cyborgs, Deformed Dopplegangers, Giant Mechanoids and outlandish bids for world domination is o.k. in a Superman movie, he'd be fine.

Oh yeah and the Bossworth chick sucked balls as Lois Lane, that role should have went to an actress with some spunk, pizazz, a real broad type hell I think Parker Posey should have switched roles with Bossworth.

 

[deemar325]

not even spielberg as producer could ensure a quality film from bay, i.e. The Island. man, that films was a serious piece of garbage!


you win, sir. you win.

LOL! yes kneel before ZOD!!

 

[Spiderine]

Oh yeah and the Bossworth chick sucked balls as Lois Lane, that role should have went to an actress with some spunk, pizazz, a real broad type hell I think Parker Posey should have switched roles with Bossworth.

Could not agree more with this assessment. Bosworth was a horrible choice for the role.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Ugh, I hated Bosworth, worst actress in the entire film.

 

[superbaby]

not even spielberg as producer could ensure a quality film from bay, i.e. The Island. man, that films was a serious piece of garbage!

what? i thought the island was very good. and i like it a lot.

and if micheal bay directing JL, i think it would be a kickass awesome movie. another incredible popcorn selling huge summer block buster.

they ain't making JL for Oscar, dude.

 

[WormyT]

... Let´s say, hypothetically - and there are lotsa statements pointing in that direction - that the sequel to SR fills all or most of these items...

- It has more action and actual superhero/supervillain fight scenes
- It has a popular villain from comics that hasn´t been used on the movies yet, like Brainiac, Darkseid or Doomsday
- It´s shorter and tighter
- It has less emphasis on romance and the kid thing
- It has less scenes and plot points that pay homage to Donner

Before you say, "Singer´s not gonna do that", or "I want a reboot", remember that a lot of statements from Singer and the writers point in that direction and that a reboot in the short term is not a realistic scenario right now. Above it all, speaking just hypothetically, if the sequel has those elements, would you be open to give Singer a second chance and look at MOS without preconceived negativity?

Unacceptable.
In all honesty I want a movie thats not necessarily a reboot but an entire new cast and director. I think Routh is a too inexperianced an actor to be Superman. Like Batman and Spiderman we need a REAL actor in the leading role.I don't care if it's Brendan Fraser, Paul Walker, Henry Cavill, I want someone thats been in at least 3 dramatic movies as either supporting actor or lead. A serious actor.

 

[Motown Marvel]

what? i thought the island was very good. and i like it a lot.

dude....that aint right.

and if micheal bay directing JL, i think it would be a kickass awesome movie. another incredible popcorn selling huge summer block buster.

without a plot.

they ain't making JL for Oscar, dude.

dont need oscar, just competence.

 

[Thunder Emperor]

lets be careful not to turn this thread into "what would you rather see, MOS or JLA"...enough of that crap is going on elsewhere and it wasnt the intentions of this topic.

but singer and crew has admitted to planning for the changes posted by the topic starter. i think singer is well aware of the criticisms, recognized the flaws of SR and is willing to work to remedy them in the sequel. and i dont see how anyone could really say "this is what i didnt like about SR" then not go see the sequel where all the things they didnt like are fixed....i mean, isnt that what you wanted? im thinking a lot of people here are gonna be turned off by singer returning, then once they get a whiff of what he's producing down the line, they'll slowly become interested and check it out.

seriously Motown that will not happen.

Superman has a bastard child. Singer can't remedy that. Also his characterization of superman>is that of a week whinny powerful alien who wants self pity.

 

[Motown Marvel]

seriously Motown that will not happen.

Superman has a bastard child. Singer can't remedy that. Also his characterization of superman>is that of a week whinny powerful alien who wants self pity.

well, to be fair, since you dont know what singer has planned you cant say he doesnt have a remedy for the kid.

also, i think your a bit extreme in your judgement of supes' character, but i can see what your saying, and its not entirely unwarranted criticism. though, i think a lot of times his character made sense given the situation they put him in...maybe we just saw too much of it than needed. either way...all it would take to remedy that is to just pump up his attitude a bit in the sequel. and that would be as simple as a stroke of a pen (literally).

 

[superbaby]

Originally Posted by Brain
I am a police officer at the U.S. Capitol. Today while I was making my way through the Capitol, I ran into Mike Dougherty as he was on a tour of the building. I thought he looked familiar, so I asked him if his name was Mike. He looked startled probably because a police officer was asking. He responded, "Yes." I said, "You look familiar. Are you Mike Dougherty?" His eyes lit up and he said, "Yes. Do I know you?" I told him no and that I was just a huge fan of Superman Returns and appreciated the fact that they put the franchise back on the big screen. He was shocked saying, "I never figured anyone would be able to recognize me."

Now to the good stuff...

I asked him if he was apart of the sequal because everything I have seen says Singer and Harris are writing the script and that he isn't mentioned. He confirmed that he is writing it with the two just like the last picture. I then expressed to him that I was hoping the delays of Superman: The Man of Steel weren't true. He said that they were on track and that the goal is still to have the movie out in the Summer of 2009. He seemed a little hesitant about it but did his best to try and reassure that it will get done by then. I asked if he could give any more info on the film. He responded, "There are TWO villains," and he smiled.

Originally Posted by Brain
No offense to all of the Singer-ites here but how do you go into a Superman franchise that you plan on continuing with no outline of where the next film goes? Seems to me that when they wrote the first one a second one would be in mind with at least major plot points mapped out. It sounds like these clowns did Returns and are now caught with their pants downs saying **** like, "we are throwing ideas around." I don't really remember Chris Nolan pulling this stunt after Begins. It was pretty much understood that their was more to tell and that a script would be written, not dreamed of and maybe one day it would see the light of day.

The more and more I think about it, Singer makes me ill. Go make your movie on WWII and Gay Rights. Let's give Superman to someone who actually has vision and has a story to tell.

I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT SOMEONE WOULD MAKE A SUPERHERO FILM OVER 200 MILLION BUCKS AND HAVE NO CLUE WHERE TO GO FROM THERE AFTER IT IS OVER.

i got this from BT and it got me interested.
we those dislike SR, if you got a chance to meet one of them, do you get the balls to tell them how screwed up they are or you would turn into a little fan and shamelessly asking for autograph and pic. moment later, you came back into this board and shiiiiting about SR again.

 

[Motown Marvel]

why does he think they dont have a plan? of course they have a plan.

 

[deemar325]

what? i thought the island was very good. and i like it a lot.

and if micheal bay directing JL, i think it would be a kickass awesome movie. another incredible popcorn selling huge summer block buster.

they ain't making JL for Oscar, dude.

Well if you want a scene were Superman is flying with Martin Lawrence in tow and Flash wears yellow Nikes as product placement, by all means.

 

[deemar325]

i got this from BT and it got me interested.
we those dislike SR, if you got a chance to meet one of them, do you get the balls to tell them how screwed up they are or you would turn into a little fan and shamelessly asking for autograph and pic. moment later, you came back into this board and shiiiiting about SR again.

I'd shake Chris Nolan's hand and pimp slap Singer. t:

 

[superbaby]

Well if you want a scene were Superman is flying with Martin Lawrence in tow and Flash wears yellow Nikes as product placement, by all means.

??? i don't get it ???

in term of image and appearance updating, i think bay did a far better job for optimus prime and bumblebee than singer for superman.

 

[Lighthouse]

... Let´s say, hypothetically - and there are lotsa statements pointing in that direction - that the sequel to SR fills all or most of these items...

- It has more action and actual superhero/supervillain fight scenes
- It has a popular villain from comics that hasn´t been used on the movies yet, like Brainiac, Darkseid or Doomsday
- It´s shorter and tighter
- It has less emphasis on romance and the kid thing
- It has less scenes and plot points that pay homage to Donner

Before you say, "Singer´s not gonna do that", or "I want a reboot", remember that a lot of statements from Singer and the writers point in that direction and that a reboot in the short term is not a realistic scenario right now. Above it all, speaking just hypothetically, if the sequel has those elements, would you be open to give Singer a second chance and look at MOS without preconceived negativity?

For me it won't matter for many different reasons. While the issues of action, length, the kid, and the overload of Donner homages were problems, I could have forgiven all of them if I had felt any connection to Superman. To me, everything Singer said he would address in SR he barely even touched. Routh has almost no lines or dramatic moments on his own, and the chemistry between him and Bosworth was awful. To be honest, I think the idea of Superman having a child is a really interesting idea, but it is very poorly executed in this movie. Things like these suggestions will make the movie better, but they won't address what I feel is the key problem of SR. I'm sorry, but I cannot just transfer everything I felt for the characters in the Reeve movies into this one because of some vague continutity. I felt nearly no connection to this Superman at all.

 

[deemar325]

??? i don't get it ???

in term of image and appearance updating, i think bay did a far better job for optimus prime and bumblebee than singer for superman.

I'm saying Michael Bay is a purely commercial drone of a director with not redeeming qualities other than his aptitude for really cool action scenes, this is a man who totally missed the whole point of Pearl freakin' Harbor, I'm pretty sure he'd be no better than Joel Schumacher.

Oh the Supes/Martin Lawrence reference is a nod to Superman 3 when Chris Reeves played second fiddle to Richard Pryor in his own movie.

 

[superbaby]

I'm saying Michael Bay is a purely commercial drone...

it's just another source to reduce the budget.

by all means, i believe that micheal bay is capable to make an awesome JL movie.

 

[Lighthouse]

I absolutely loved Transformers, but I would not like to see Bay on a JLA movie, but then again, I don't really want to see a JLA movie anyway.

 

[S_H_F_4839]

I feel you. I'm still on the fence about him. I need to see what he has up his sleeve for it before really deciding.

As of right now, i'm leaning toward the J.L. side of the fence, but I havent fell over just yet..

I can push you off the fence if you like.

J/K

I actually liked the cast of the movie, but I think that Bryan Singer and his writing team just do not get superman, the way they got x-men, I really enjoyed the x-men movies they worked on, but superman just did not work in my opinion. I just think with new writers and directors the series is salvagable but with the same people I just don't know.

 

[Motown Marvel]

SUPERMAN: you cant stop me now, luthor!

LUTHOR: oh really? well this chunk of Cingular Wireless Kryptonite says other wise, Super-Dork.

SUPERMAN: ARGH! NO! Not Cingular brand kryptonite, thats the strongest brand of them all, and their phones have a clearer reception then my super hearing, all for a low monthly price!

LUTHOR: thats right superman! give up! you lose! and losers go home with nothing, while winners gets to f**k the prom queen!

SUPERMAN: Lana was the prom queen, Cue Ball!!

LUTHOR: Who's Lana?!

SUPERMAN: the woman right behind you...with a Capital One Low-Interest Rate Chunk of Lexonite!

LUTHOR: ARGH! NOT LEXONITE! IT WILL MAKE ME FAIL!

LANA: Bad guys always fail, Luthor! in fact, the only think you'll ever succeed at is going to jail! prison jail!

 

[S_H_F_4839]

SUPERMAN: you cant stop me now, luthor!

LUTHOR: oh really? well this chunk of Cingular Wireless Kryptonite says other wise, Super-Dork.

SUPERMAN: ARGH! NO! Not Cingular brand kryptonite, thats the strongest brand of them all, and their phones have a clearer reception then my super hearing, all for a low monthly price!

LUTHOR: thats right superman! give up! you lose! and losers go home with nothing, while winners gets to f**k the prom queen!

SUPERMAN: Lana was the prom queen, Cue Ball!!

LUTHOR: Who's Lana?!

SUPERMAN: the woman right behind you...with a Capital One Low-Interest Rate Chunk of Lexonite!

LUTHOR: ARGH! NOT LEXONITE! IT WILL MAKE ME FAIL!

LANA: Bad guys always fail, Luthor! in fact, the only think you'll ever succeed at is going to jail! prison jail!

That actually makes more sense to me than SR did.

 

[deemar325]

it's just another source to reduce the budget.

by all means, i believe that micheal bay is capable to make an awesome JL movie.

Not saying Bay couldn't do it, but it would be totally devoid of what those who grew up with these characters expect in the way of characterzation. Bay doesn't give a crap about things like that. It will be pure camp.