Joeyjojo72
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Angelina Jolie and Salma Hayek - though nice to look at - are not and never have been great actors. I was disappointed the moment i heard about their casting
There was never a direct sequel, aside from Iron Man 2.You know, I feel like there isn’t much of a point to direct sequels in the MCU anymore. With characters showing up across different films, direct sequels just seem redundant. Even though we haven’t had Doctor Strange 2 yet, I feel like we’ve had three unofficial sequels with him already.
There was never a direct sequel, aside from Iron Man 2.
Time will tell if this one gets a direct sequel. I can see a couple of characters appearing in other mcu films before Eternals 2 is released.
There was never a direct sequel, aside from Iron Man 2.
Time will tell if this one gets a direct sequel. I can see a couple of characters appearing in other mcu films before Eternals 2 is released.
Thor appeared in Avengers 2012 before T2. Captain America appeared in Avengers 2012 before The Winter Soldier.Uhhh not sure what you’re talking about. There have been sequels for all the avengers. They all continued the story started in the first movie.
But see, even the person has to know the basic gist of the Avengers not to get lost. Thats what I meant when I said Iron Man 2 is the only direct sequel - as in you don't need to know anything about TIH/Tony's cameo in order to get the movie. If I didn't see Avengers, I would wonder so much why Tony has PTSD in Iron Man 3 and referencing aliens.I don’t think you have to watch The Avengers in order to understand Thor 2 or Captain America 2 or Iron Man 3. If you know the basic gist of the events in The Avengers then you can get away with seeing the sequels as stand-alones. I feel like they’re more sequels to the characters’ origin movie than to the Avengers movie or anything in between.
Its surprising how much can be explained with a couple of well placed panic attacks.Yeah they explained Tony’s PTSD in Iron Man 3 enough for you to understand how he got it, without having to actually watch The Avengers.
You know, the mixed reactions made my hopes really low, but I really enjoyed this film. I think people are just taken aback by how it doesn't really follow the MCU "formula". It's very plot focused, told on an epic scale and I think they handled the required exposition quite well. There are a lot of genuine laughs, but unlike many MCU movies, the comedy never undercuts a serious or emotional moment, which I really appreciated. The weight of emotional scenes is really allowed to breathe, and while I think some characters didn't get enough screen-time, that's just the nature of an ensemble movie like this. I genuinely can't understand the negative reviews now that I've seen it, I think it's the pure shock of expecting a certain type of film from the MCU and getting something a little different.
Imo, Nomadland shows dull IS her style
I fell asleep like 10 minutes into it lol
I dont think they neutered it, I just think she may not be a great fit for the genre
For me, the only good news about this critically failing, is this didn't happen with the reboot of the Fantastic Four and the X-Men. Those two already got a handful of bad movies.
This should really give new notes/lessons to Marvel Studios moving forward. They were doing so well with the critiXs since 2014, and this might be their new worst reviewed film.I can't believe the most recent Oscar winning director is breaking their streak.
But see, even the person has to know the basic gist of the Avengers not to get lost. Thats what I meant when I said Iron Man 2 is the only direct sequel - as in you don't need to know anything about TIH/Tony's cameo in order to get the movie. If I didn't see Avengers, I would wonder so much why Tony has PTSD in Iron Man 3 and referencing aliens.
I neither said its complicated, nor its a requirement to watch Avengers 2012 to understand Iron Man 3, Thor 2 and Winter Soldier.What do you really have to know other than a bunch of heroes teamed up to defeat Loki?
The only real connective tissue is really the infinity stones. And that was explained again. And that there was a falling out in Civil War.
The MCU isn't that complicated. That's part of the reason for its success.
I neither said its complicated, nor its a requirement to watch Avengers 2012 to understand Iron Man 3, Thor 2 and Winter Soldier.
The movie is still a "major " event that is set between Iron Man 2 and 3, First Avenger and Winter Soldier, Thor 1 and Dark World. Thats why I don't consider Ir3, TWS and TDW as a "direct" sequel to IR2, TFA and T1 respectively.
Yeah, this might be the worst of their movies. The first 40 mins is so ponderous, and even after it feels so unintentionally cringe. Easily the worst written MCU movie in terms of plot and especially dialogue imo. Every flashback feels like it has 10 seconds worth of material we need, but then goes on for 5-10 mins. A lot of the casting were... yeah. I think the biggest fumble here is them. Because the three most enjoyable members imo (Kingo, Gilgamesh, and Phastos) are sidelines for the majority of it, while Gemma Chan, whose in it the most, feels sidelined for Robb Stark. Who is the least interesting actor, but not the worst here imo. That's Hayek and Jolie.
Also there is the very questionable:
emphasis on Spirite's uh... let's say desire for a family of her own. With a full grown man physically. And yes, I get she's old too and I don't think it was intentional, but it's still a little girl and the Tinker Bell framing makes it way creepier imo.
I did like the ending though. I though Jon Snow was fun in his five minutes of screentime and the Bollywood Borat due were cool. Same with pretty much everything Gilgamesh did. But lord, how Feige ever thought this was Oscar worthy is beyond me. He's probably never produced a worst movie. And he produced TDW, IM2, and Ant Man/Wasp.
They did try something different. To intentionally make a bad movie.I’m fascinated by this. So far the audience seems to like it while critics don’t. Definitely sounds like Marvel tried something different, at least for them. Hopefully the critic reviews don’t stop them from experimenting more.