Justice League Ray Fisher Is Victor Stone/Cyborg

[misslane38]

I respectfully disagree. He's basically an episode of Black Mirror. DC has an opportunity with him to really capitalize on the public's infatuation with tech and our need to be connected at all times, which crafts a sort of cognitive dissonance as we're deeply afraid of being surveilled.

How does a man with the ability to harness a power we both adore and fear navigate this world responsibly? TDK briefly touched on with Bruce violating the privacy of Gotham's citizens, but you can really dig deep into that with Cyborg.

On top of that, you can deal with themes of conventional masculinity and the destruction of the black body, which are massive pain points in the black community. If they can find a filmmaker capable of thoughtfully addressing those issues, they can potentially play a role in reframing how a lot of young black men view themselves and their place in the world. Ryan Coogler or Jordan Peele would be perfect choices for a project like this.

So yeah, I don't know much about his rogues gallery. But I don't think anyone needs to. There's no character in the DCEU stable that's more timely right now.

Excellent points. I've been familiar with Cyborg since Smallville introduced him in an eponymous episode during its fifth season; he made a few additional appearances since (the actor who played him sadly committed suicide a few years ago).

I've experienced him in comics and animation a few times as well and always find him either interesting, likable, or both.

Ray Fisher has added a whole new level of excitement for me, though. His enthusiasm is infectious, and I love the way he describes the character. I also found your analysis above compelling and indicative of the significant potential Victor has as a character. My expectation going into JL is that he will be one of my favorites, and I hope they start working on putting his solo movie together with a quality filmmaker, like the ones you mentioned, at the helm.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I respectfully disagree. He's basically an episode of Black Mirror. DC has an opportunity with him to really capitalize on the public's infatuation with tech and our need to be connected at all times, which crafts a sort of cognitive dissonance as we're deeply afraid of being surveilled.

How does a man with the ability to harness a power we both adore and fear navigate this world responsibly? TDK briefly touched on with Bruce violating the privacy of Gotham's citizens, but you can really dig deep into that with Cyborg.

On top of that, you can deal with themes of conventional masculinity and the destruction of the black body, which are massive pain points in the black community. If they can find a filmmaker capable of thoughtfully addressing those issues, they can potentially play a role in reframing how a lot of young black men view themselves and their place in the world. Ryan Coogler or Jordan Peele would be perfect choices for a project like this.

So yeah, I don't know much about his rogues gallery. But I don't think anyone needs to. There's no character in the DCEU stable that's more timely right now.

I had not considered Peele before but Scribe that is a great choice. I think Brad Bird would be another good choice.

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

I respectfully disagree. He's basically an episode of Black Mirror. DC has an opportunity with him to really capitalize on the public's infatuation with tech and our need to be connected at all times, which crafts a sort of cognitive dissonance as we're deeply afraid of being surveilled.

How does a man with the ability to harness a power we both adore and fear navigate this world responsibly? TDK briefly touched on with Bruce violating the privacy of Gotham's citizens, but you can really dig deep into that with Cyborg.

On top of that, you can deal with themes of conventional masculinity and the destruction of the black body, which are massive pain points in the black community. If they can find a filmmaker capable of thoughtfully addressing those issues, they can potentially play a role in reframing how a lot of young black men view themselves and their place in the world. Ryan Coogler or Jordan Peele would be perfect choices for a project like this.

So yeah, I don't know much about his rogues gallery. But I don't think anyone needs to. There's no character in the DCEU stable that's more timely right now.

Very nice ideas on which ways to approach Cyborg. I remember you talking about this a while back. You dubbed your ideal Cyborg movie to be like a "Cyberpunk Get Out" right? Lol. That would be very neat to get. There was a time were I believed this approach would be welcomed by the folks running the DC films at WB, these days I am not so sure but I would be all over this.

 

[Da-Scribe]

I had not considered Peele before but Scribe that is a great choice. I think Brad Bird would be another good choice.

Brad Bird is a great director. I'm also a firm believer that a filmmaker doesn't have to be the same race as the character they're director to still make that character important. They just have to thoughtful. If Bird were up for the challenge I'd be for it.

Very nice ideas on which ways to approach Cyborg. I remember you talking about this a while back. You dubbed your ideal Cyborg movie to be like a "Cyberpunk Get Out" right? Lol. That would be very neat to get. There was a time were I believed this approach would be welcomed by the folks running the DC films at WB, these days I am not so sure but I would be all over this.

Hahaha, yep that was exactly how I described it. I'd forgotten that. It does seem farther away with the whole WB shakeup. But also, if they can continue to build good will then I think they'd be more open to giving some of the heavier themes a shot with their big tentpoles.

WW certainly touched on some very real stuff in a way that meant something to people while still maintaining that blockbuster appeal. So I know they have it in them.

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

Hahaha, yep that was exactly how I described it. I'd forgotten that. It does seem farther away with the whole WB shakeup. But also, if they can continue to build good will then I think they'd be more open to giving some of the heavier themes a shot with their big tentpoles.

WW certainly touched on some very real stuff in a way that meant something to people while still maintaining that blockbuster appeal. So I know they have it in them.

I hope they haven't been discouraged to try to go a route like this in the future. Done right, your idea could yield something as well as make Cyborg as important, relevant, powerful, and resonant as Wonder Woman was for a lot of people. Speaking of directors who could tackle this, when Rick was still doing The Flash, Cyborg was going to be in the movie too. And given that he parted ways with WB because he allegedly wanted to go more of a social commentary route with Flash, I wonder if that was the case as well with his approach to Cyborg. I don't know how likely it is for him to come back and discuss doing another DC movie, but what do you think about Rick Famuyiwa tackling Cyborg?

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Coogler was my pick before Marvel scooped him up.

I also think Dan Trachtenberg (21 Cloverfield Lane, Black Mirror, that Portal short) could do a good job. Cheap too.

I also think Cyborg is hella interesting. I like what Fisher said about Vic recently, that he has problems opening up to others, connecting to others (despite the fact that his superpower is being connected to everything). He's basically the embodiment of the ironic state of modern communication in the digital age. We're more equipped to reach out to others, but we dont because of our insecurities. Technology has made it easier to avoid real connection. I think that's what the Cyborg movie could be about at its core, how our integration with technology is changing us on the most fundamental human level.

I think when people call Cyborg generic it's because they're only thinking about the Terminator/RoboCop side of things.

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

^ Dan is not a bad choice. Good one.

 

[idiot09]

I also think Cyborg is hella interesting.

Either you are from California or you play Life Is Strange. Which one?

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

I also think Cyborg is hella interesting. I like what Fisher said about Vic recently, that he has problems opening up to others, connecting to others (despite the fact that his superpower is being connected to everything). He's basically the embodiment of the ironic state of modern communication in the digital age. We're more equipped to reach out to others, but we dont because of our insecurities. Technology has made it easier to avoid real connection. I think that's what the Cyborg movie could be about at its core, how our integration with technology is changing us on the most fundamental human level.

I think when people call Cyborg generic it's because they're only thinking about the Terminator/RoboCop side of things.

That is another good take on Cyborg and one that could be right up this new DC films alley. And I agree, there's a lot of potential with Cyborg. Themes of being disabled could even be touched on along with this. He is and can become more than what the name suggests. My one worry for Ray's Cyborg is that his importance will begin and end with JL and he'll then be used only to introduce the Teen Titans on the big screen or something. I hope they don't abandon plans for a solo for him.

 

[Da-Scribe]

I hope they haven't been discouraged to try to go a route like this in the future. Done right, your idea could yield something as well as make Cyborg as important, relevant, powerful, and resonant as Wonder Woman was for a lot of people. Speaking of directors who could tackle this, when Rick was still doing The Flash, Cyborg was going to be in the movie too. And given that he parted ways with WB because he allegedly wanted to go more of a social commentary route with Flash, I wonder if that was the case as well with his approach to Cyborg. I don't know how likely it is for him to come back and discuss doing another DC movie, but what do you think about Rick Famuyiwa tackling Cyborg?

Rick would be amazing. He was my top choice back before he got The Flash. Dope was such a great movie for me. It handled these young minority youths in a way that was compelling, poignant, and at no point felt stereotypical. He just has a super unique voice. So, I'd be super happy if that happens and would just hope that him and WB could stay on the same page.

 

[idiot09]

I still feel bad that we didnt get Rick's Flash film.

Huge mistake from WB imo.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

 

[rashad]

I still feel bad that we didnt get Rick's Flash film.

Huge mistake from WB imo.

Impossible to know that.

 

[idiot09]

Impossible to know that.

No, just a feeling. Dude is a very talented filmmaker, and I would have loved to see his take. Also I would have preferred a solo story over Flashpoint, so there's that.

 

[Polux]

I see different posters every now and then bringing the Teen Titans in relation to Cyborg, or how he's the gateway for Titans or how they expect that he'll be...that ain't gonna happen. Bury it.

To begin with, he's not even - it would seem - the youngest member of the team, that appears to be Flash, and second, ever since New52 - and not Rebirth - Cyborg has always been a founding member of JL, not a Titan, so they're not gonna go that direction.

I know a lot of people wanna see Vic the way or as part of the team they saw/read him growing up, I can understand that of course, but it's not gonna happen; they already reinvented the character's story for a new generation before these movies were in production; I'm willing to bet my left nut it ain't gonna happen.

Let it go fellas...

 

[KevTravels]

I hope he has a sizable role rather than simply just 1 of those to pad the numbers. WB need to market him to audiences to explain him properly. Because average person is aware of the others or at least associate Aquaman with water and The Flash with running quickly.

I'd hate to see Cyborg as odd man out

 

[Angel0fDeath]

 

[Blitzkrieg]

 

[moviefreak]

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[Primal Slayer]

I really hope if we see him again in a solo or a sequel that they give him a makeover. His JL look is just to extreme.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

He looks very bare and unrefined. I'd like to see him evolve his own look.

 

[Consona]

I'm sure the look will change. Even Superman and Batman get news costumes every movie. I like how scary Cyborg looks, you can really see there's no body in there, just some weird machinery.

 

[Zur-en-Arrh]

I'm guessing him being rough around the edges is an allusion to his character arc and by the end of the film, or JL2, he'll be more streamlined. I'm also guessing he starts out the film robotic in personality, losing his humanity, and shouts Booyah by the end

 

[Angel0fDeath]

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[MrGamer2558]

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