Reboot: Character Portrayal

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Any girl can fall for a mild-mannered, shy guy, but most girls won't fall for dorks. You could even say that Lois and Clark would be a case of opposites attracting. I can't imagine Lois giving Clark the time of day under any circumstances if he were a clumsy fool with oversized glasses and no sense of color coordination.

She could (and would) fall for him but a mild-mannered and shy guy is not the type of guy Lois Lane would normally go for. There's a reason why the classic love triangle goes Clark loves Lois but Lois loves Superman.
 
Does anyone else agree that the most important character in any Superman movie is Lex Luthor?
 
Well i agree lex is a very important character in superman world and i would hate to not see him in a film in some degree. Though next time around we need to get out of that petty criminal lex old take and we need to see him in a new light/new direction with the corp/political lex that hasnt made it to be big screen. Have him assoicated or the cause of bizarro/metallo/doomsday and all that.
 
Whoever writes the next Superman movie needs to read Lex Luthor: Man of Steel and base the character off of that.

Make Lex Luthor a human being, with a rational reason for believing in the good behind his actions. Because that's how humans act.
 
Take the characters and how they are in STAS and put them in live action

BOOM
 
Would that include Superman hugging Batman? OK it was the JL.

Angeloz
 
Take the characters and how they are in STAS and put them in live action

BOOM

As much as I like this Clark I just can't see it working in a movie because of how little difference there is between Clark and SM. I do like the S:TAS Lois and Lex better than and other version. Well the Smallville Lex is a close second to the S:TAS Lex. I think a big part of how Clark show be played should be based on how they write the Lois character because they need to make people believe that Lois could fall for Clark. As far as Clark being clumsy, I wouldn't mind it if they show him like spilling his drink or dropping his food on his self. But not Urkel(spelling) clumsy. I think Lois should see Clark as being charming and a great catch for some lucky lady but eventualy fall for that charm. And I also think that is how she should start figuring out that Clark is Superman. I just think that if Clark acts like a fool and always dissapears somebody if gonna be like where does this guy always go and pay more attention than if Clark is just like everybody else and it just seemslike he leave to work on a story. As far as SR goes that movie had a lot of stuff wrong with it that caused people not to like it. SV in my opinion had nothing to do with how the movie turned out. I just wonder how many people went to see SR just because they knew who SM is because of the S logo, t-shirts and such. And they go see this movie that really tells you nothing about SMs origin, whey Lois is upset that he left, where he has been or why he even left. YOu know one thing that bugs me about SR ios that Lois mentions how she forgot how warm SM is. Which I take it to mean that he is warmer than a regular person. But wouldn't Lois at some point notice that Clark is warm like SM?
 
I honestly think Clark kent should not be the shy bumbling fool like the chris reeve films, but rather the country boy that just moved to the city. I mean he should be the guy in the office that walks into other peoples conversations and adds the awkward comment and laughs at his own jokes and talks with a farm language like says golly, gee, shucks etc. I dont mean make him a yolkal but make people like Lois have a reason for calling him "smallville".

He should also rival Lois' reporter skill if not better they should be in constant competition to one up the other which makes a kind of sexual frustration between them. Clark is trying to get info and make an impact on society that superman can take advantige of. Where Lois thinks he is trying to out do her so she tries to one up him but is attracted to him because even tho he's not her type he has the brains and gives her a run for her money. He should be alot like Jimmy in that they get each others humar and always sticks up for Jimmy even letting him take credit for things that would make Clark look like a big shot because he sees the potential in Jimmy. He shouldent have his hair in his face but rather a slicked back look covered by the occasional snap brim hat and glasses that are cokebottle thick to make his eyes look overly big or small and in the bright light even shade over just a tiny bit.

He should slouch just a tiny bit not to much and have a laid back attitude. like he should lean back in his chair and fall over ,and be disorganised so he and Lois argue because she should be a clean freak so that adds tension. As superman he should always look stern and like a stonefaced soldier.Only kids and Lois and Jimmy make him smile. He should get the job done and leave not be standing there and let the press get a good shot at a picture accept for Jimmy. He should be all buisness when facing an enemy almost to the point as pissing them off because no matter how hard they try to knock him down he always gets up even if he can barely stands but he never quits even if it means him dying to save all the people on earth.

Lois should be brutally honest stern a flirt and the girl every feminest loves and every guy would love to be with at the same time. She should be sexy yet classy at the same time kind of like a Jackie Kennedy and Jenifer Anniston mixed in one. She should always be for the truth and find a way to get it which always puts her in trouble but she shouldn't always need superman she just likes to be rescued because shes in love with what he stands for and thinks hes a gift from god in the looks department. Jimmy should be the artsy geek trying to be recodnised and befriends Clark because he does so. Perry should be the loud bear of a man that respects everyone that works for him and thinks of Jimmy like a son that he tries to push to make him a better person in general. He also sees how Lois and Clark look and act towards each other and gets a kick on calling them out on it. Lex should be the donald trump of metropolis and he tries to make himself be metropolis's bigest celebrity but nobody in the city trusts him and he always covers his tracks which make Lois and Clark more determined to bring him down
 
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I just realized .....

This is actually a thread I started ... how did it get credited to someone else?

Also - it wasn't intended to just be about Superman, Clark, and Lois.


I wanted the Hype posters to think about how they rest of the cast should be portrayed as well.
 
Chose: Confidant, Intelligent, Kind, Cool. I think a mix between both options is the way to go. There should be a strong contrast between Clark and Superman's demeanor.

I would also add Nicolas Cage's idea of giving Clark a Southern accent while Superman speaks with a Northern accent or "regular" accent.
 
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Any girl can fall for a mild-mannered, shy guy, but most girls won't fall for dorks. You could even say that Lois and Clark would be a case of opposites attracting. I can't imagine Lois giving Clark the time of day under any circumstances if he were a clumsy fool with oversized glasses and no sense of color coordination.
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You're making assumptions about who would fall in love with whom. Time and time again we see examples of women falling in love with men because of their inner character, not looks, not shyness. you can overcome shyness.
We have to keep in mind that the reason Clark acts the way he does is it's a cover. He's trying not to draw attention to himself or his activities as Superman.
 
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Does anyone else agree that the most important character in any Superman movie is Lex Luthor?
I do to an extent. Not having Lex for me would be like not having Gordon or Alfred in Batman. He absolutely needs to have a big part.
I understand that people are tired of Lex, but what I think they're tired of is the land grabbing, campy, cant think of a better idea Lex.
Give them a Lex-corp Lex that is serious, along with Metallo, and folks would be in heaven IMO.
 
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i understand that he is important.
but Al is always next to the main character from the movie. the title character. he is around the main character. lex is a villain.
 
"Clark Kent is Superman's critique of mankind".

That sentiment has become, largely the prevailing wisdom in many sections of popular culture about the portrayal of Clark Kent. I think it's a mistake. I think it's also over looked that it's a homicidal sociopath that has popularized that notion. I feel that both personalities of Kal El's persona are critiques of mankind. Clark is in fact the flawed, average , humbled human who is stuck in a stream he cannot get out of. Superman is his critique of mankind when we are at our best. When we look at the personalities of great men we see a long list of character flaws that go hand in hand with their triumphs. Whether it be, Martin Luther King Jr. or Ghandi, Abraham Lincoln or Thomas Jefferson these men had their private lives, where each stumbled and skinned their knees but when presented with times larger than themselves and challenges large enough to confront they rose to the occasion and struck out in bold positive ways. I see Superman in the same manor. I think he's at an advantage in understanding human nature due to his life story. He isn't one of us. He has that part of him that is rarely displayed but ever present, that alien heritage. He is detached, no matter how much he doesn't wish to be. He is the immigrant and the orphan raised by two people who represented every aspect of mankind even the petty parts. I feel that the fact that Jonathan and Martha were not young and had so much life already lived when they found him alone in that field is one of the most important parts of his story. It is in fact a formative aspect. Between the two they must have lived through a lot. A rapidly shrinking world, wars, peace, economic hardships, personal hardships, deaths and births and a great deal of life lived between them. When Clark comes into their lives they have seen a lot and know a lot about the world and mankind in general. They are wise, which is why Clark through his life leans on them so much. He comes to them for advice on things even he cannot confront and more often than not they lead him in the right direction. Jonathan understands the darker motives and the masculine world better than most men. Martha understands the hopeful, brighter more feminine aspects better than most and both of those views on the world really impacts Clark as a character. In the same instance he is worldly. He has seen his own share by the time he has come to Metropolis, whether he's portrayed as is in the Donnerverse as having been fed the information by Jor El or as in Birthright as having sought it out himself in a young life of travels. He has seen death and the grimmer aspects of mankind and he has seen the joyous and brighter aspects for himself and knows, from a curious observers point of view, what we can be in every moment of our lives. We rarely surprise him which is why as Superman he is so confident. When he comes to Metropolis he is confronted with the synthesized fears and desperation of moving life in a major city and knows that he needs to in some way present an example in the busiest city in the world of how life should be enjoyed and how people should stop and care for one another. To look past the dregs of the daily beat and see the world as it is. Alive in wonder and glory as well as well as trodden and bleak. He wants to help because he can. He wants to guide us to the realization of the better angels of ourselves. At the same time he has a real fear of both doing too much and not doing enough. He doesn't want people to become overly reliant on him and he doesn't want them to suffer needlessly. There is a constant tension in him in this case that I don't think can or should ever be resolved. The great drama in his life is when it swings one way or the other.

As for Lex I think he is very much human. He represents the arrogance and the fear, that goes with that, in mankind. He has become the pinnacle of what ever ends he strives for, criminality or business or evil science even land accumulation. He is the top and see's himself as everything that man can achieve. He resents Superman, though he'd never admit it because he is more than human. He see's and vocalizes Superman's own fear of becoming a crutch. I see him as Machiavellian and not so much evil but rather a social Darwinist whose ends justify his own means. He is amoral but believes this makes him of a higher moral standard. There is a real superiority and his hatred of Superman is far more Freudian than simply being thwarted time and again. It's more of two opposing forces that will never, even begrudgingly, see the others side of the world, they may understand it but they both find it simultaneously repulsive.
 
I would also add Nicolas Cage's idea of giving Clark a Southern accent while Superman speaks with a Northern accent or "regular" accent.

Kansans have Southern accents?

We have to keep in mind that the reason Clark acts the way he does is it's a cover. He's trying not to draw attention to himself or his activities as Superman.

So if DP Clark is a cover when does Clark ever get to be himself?
 
i personally would like to see clark is who he is and superman is just what he can do take on the character.
 
i personally would like to see clark is who he is and superman is just what he can do take on the character.

I think there is a third aspect of the persona. I feel it comes out in his writing more often than anything. When Clark sits down to write out an expose or to bring truth to the people I think that is his most whole moment. The journalist, the hard hitting, even handed provocateur who makes his readers take in the world at a slower pace and think things through is when he lets himself be absolutely who he is. There is some Clark and some Superman there. It's in this aspect that he acknowledges the differing natures of man and squeezes out a solution. This is why he loves his job so. It's his release valve on the pressures of who he is. Personally I like the old Fleischer depiction of Clark as very a mild mannered and confident person. I just think that when the character makes mistakes it is acknowledged in Clark not registered in Superman. Superman takes the responsibility for his failures but doesn't brood over it. Clark mourns his failures in any aspect of his life and that should be expressed through his persona, not in a distracting way or like Peter Parker but more in an adult and human fashion.
 
Yeah. I think the secret identity works because the public just doesn't think a man who has everything would even care to be normal. But they don't know the history, all the things behind him and all.

People just don't see Superman, the larger than life figure, in Clark. And that is the fun.

I saw a documentary about President Obama and he went to a normal fast-food restaurant to buy some burguers for the people in the white house. People on the streets were freaking out to see him there, stopped in awe. This is why Clark Kent with glasses work.
 
Yeah. I think the secret identity works because the public just doesn't think a man who has everything would even care to be normal. But they don't know the history, all the things behind him and all.

People just don't see Superman, the larger than life figure, in Clark. And that is the fun.

I saw a documentary about President Obama and he went to a normal fast-food restaurant to buy some burguers for the people in the white house. People on the streets were freaking out to see him there, stopped in awe. This is why Clark Kent with glasses work.

I agree. It reminds me of Batman/Superman when Supergirl shows up and she and Superman are looking at the memorial statue and she says something to the effect of "This is how they see you? No wonder they never notice Clark Kent". We see him as an almost God like figure, I think much to his chagrin. We see him and see flashes of color and all our dreams realized and amplified how could we possibly see something else. He is our Apollo. No matter what he says about just being a man in the press.
 
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You're making assumptions about who would fall in love with whom. Time and time again we see examples of women falling in love with men because of their inner character, not looks, not shyness. you can overcome shyness.

With a ridiculous amount of money maybe.
 
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